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A question about Hizbollah's ideology? |
I have watched you in the past 2 days rave about sayyed Nasrallah's speech and declare how fantastic it was.
I followed the funerals myself and heard his speech. Besides accusing and threatening Israel ( fair enough) I saw nothing worth noting except a call to war. Is this what you are celebrating? do you hope for war again or did I miss something more fundamental in his speech?
I think it's important to state that this is a genuine and serious question, it is in no way meant to attack the movement.
neither am I being sarcastic or trying to make any kind of statements here. I really like to know how you think.
Hateful, silly answers on either side will be ignored, I am only interested to hear from the party supporters. Additional Details Thank you, but this question refers to his speech, where was the wow factor? why was it declared outstanding? |
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Ghanouge
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Hi Webby,
I just logged in to answer this very interesting question
Now, i am not taking sides of anyone, and you know me and how i think very well by now ( i guess), BUT
I don't accept another war, i will not accept it, and i will never accept it, because of many reasons, mainly is because i don't want to lose my family to a bunch or politicians who ever they may be (ALL polititions) just because they don't know or think they know what is best for lebanon.
Second. Israel and the US for example, are not ideologists, Look at the US, where ever it puts its finger, hell breaks loose, and they say, they are doing it for the better!! YEAH RIGHT.
Look at nigeria, iraq, lebanon, palestine, ..... also more to come, shamely enough, it has no more troops, and is aquiring from its neighboring countries.
Anyways, that is out of the subject,
What is the US and Israel agenda??
Simply enough, corner muslims to be exact, gain whatever they may gain from each country, suck out all of its resources, have the people die, and they will say YAY we helped you, give us your life!!
Ok, hezbullah, im not crazy about them, but in the end, they did something in the past, (south), they also have the whole world thinking about them, and they are listed as one of the world's most terrorist groups.
Second, what i have seen, is the the US and Isreael, are playing "Poke".
When one is injured from their BELOVED country, whoever it may be, they declare war, but if WE our poor country, one is injred, well they say, SO WHAT, they BREED more!!.. and we should shut up!!
People have had enough webby, and i am one of these people, i have had enough of people coming to my country, eating my bread, and saying, im trying that bread for you inorder for you not to get poisoned, to see is its good, and i will give you the crumbs, so that you won't die!
I am tired of leaving my country, staying alone, having to work with other NON ARAB nationalities, me working my bare behind back, and they gaining much more than what they should. just because they are ovverrated!
Im tired of ARAB people sending their CV's claiming to be NON ARABS to get the bigger bucks in other countries.
Im tired of requesting for a VISA that i may or maynot get, while they just kick the door with their feet and enter where they want!
Im tired of having to sit with NON arabs, saying they cant enter syria or lebanon, or iran, because simply enough they will be questioned about it, or they might be treatned in souch countries!
We are not barbaric people..
Webby, i am sure, if anyone hurts your son or daughter (hopefully no one will), you will have the grudge to kill that person, or hurt that person. and that is only your son
What about the WHOLE DAMN ARAB population, we being hurt, we being killed, we being departed, we being out of passports, we being defensless, just because a bigger Square meter country says so..
I didn't hear his speach, im not into speaches, but really, who ever they are, they have crossed the line of attacking us. And if it was for me, i will shut up no more, because I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
I have had enough of politicians who wants they pockets full of green papers, and sucking up to people and selling their country while they lay there, eating caviar, smoking cigars, 24 hour electricity while they don't pay ONE CENT.
I have had enough of people dying, from war polution, from poor shelter, from being attacked and shot on.
I have had enough, and if hezbullah was to show them a lesson, even if they were to lose, i accept that., because i don't simply want to shut up anymore.
Maybe those who are at home, with their families wont agree with me, maybe those who are safe and watch their children grow up wont agree with me, maybe those who don't think if they should turn on the heater for hot waterm because maybe the next 12 hours there is no electricity, wont agree with me.
Maybe those who make thousands a month, and don't care about how to pay for medicine, simply because their country provides FREE FREE medical treatment wont agree with me
Maybe those who just read the news and dont think further than their nose, wont agree with me..
Well, i don't care, i want us to be heard, i want us to be given whats ours, and i dont want to be bullied anymore, just because i am what i am, and i belong to whom i belong to.
Maybe i got out of the subject webby, but i had to say this, just because, its not about war or hezbullah, or nasrallah, its only because we have the right to BREATH for a minute without worrying what might hapen the next second.
Sorry to whoever i hurt, to whoever doesnt get what i said, but i had to say this. |
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BUSH/ISRAEL =warcriminal
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yeah that dude is a major blow the hezbollah(protecters against zionist) but they would strike back and this time israel is gonna pay for it.
I dont think they want war but surely they would seek revenge by carrying out some attks on Israel |
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Kate
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I'm not a supporter of Hezbollah, but I'm going to try and answer...I'm not really into politics so all I know abt Hezbollah's ideaology is that they are a group of people who live in the South of Lebanon and when Israel attacked them the Lebanese army and gov. were too weak to protect them so Hezbollah was born. What I don't like abt March 14 is that they want to discard them plain and simple...knowing that Hezbollah represents 1 million Lebanese (a quarter of the population) which is not fair at all.
1. Why does Hezbollah want to keep its weapons? because the threat of Israel is not over...don't believe everything you hear on the news...Israel is still abducting pple from the Lebanese borders every day, why would this be allowed...Israel is still rapping Lebanese skies with its planes...Israel is still breathing down the South's neck.
2. Not only Israel wants to disarm Hezbollah she wants all the Hezbollah millitants to move their residences up the Litani...that is so stupid since those guys live in their towns, why displace them to make Israel happy?
3. Hezbollah doesn't trust the pple of 14 March because they have betrayed them in the 2005 elections where they promised to keep Hezbollah weapons if they vote for them...and Hezbollah did what they wanted and was stabbed in the back.
As for Hassan Nassrallah I think he is a karismatic man...he has a way with words...he is honnest when he speaks so the words flow...you have to see him in person, he's much more effective than TV...he doesn't stutter when he speaks and no one write his speeches for him...he has no hidden agendas like the pple of March 14.
One more thing, the paper that was signed between Aoun and Nassrallah...what is so wrong with that paper? Is it so awful to accept one another???? should we kill each other like some March 14 pple wants us to do??? is that best for Lebanon???? The Shiite are part of Lebanon and they always will be whether March 14 like it or not |
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Zeno
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The ideology consists only of participation in a multicultural state in which the values of Muslims are protected and the protection of Lebanon from further Israeli attacks and in this they have been partially successful,certainly more so than the Lebanese army. His speech I did not see but in past addresses he has shown a gift for oratory. The call to war is indeed justified and represents a circumstance beneficial to the ongoing crisis in the Gaza. Hopefully,the prospect of war in the north will result in a serious disengagement from Gaza. And we are all sick of these "planned assassinations". |
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Pinky
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Sheikha Said it all,i thank her for making it way easier for me by answering ur question cuz sometimes its hard for me to explain,i totally agree with her and she is saying everything accurate.
We dont want a war ofcourse,but when Israel wants to assassinate somone from Hezbollah and kill when ever they like,than Hezbollah has every right to do what ever they want to them,especially that Israel has killed one of their men outside Lebanon,this is an open world war everywhere now cuz of what Israel had done,they will pay for it now BIG time,everybody knows Hezbollah can beat them in a second,even America admitted it!
And what are we celebrating for Nesrallahs speech?
We are celebrating cuz we want to reveal our steam out to Israels every mistake they have done to us,never trust a country like Israel that wants to have peace,they are only betrayers that gamble with America and March 14!! |
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ANGELO [my 3 passions]
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Webby dear .. have you read the news lately ?.. the Zionists and the Imperialists have wet their pants and are scared to death all over the world .. That's why !!!! One speech did all that ... just a few words from the Sayyed ... !!!! |
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I don't think Hezbollah party wants another war with Israel. This is Israel that wants eliminate them from the South of Lebanon borders. This means they want to invade Lebanon without any serious resistance, like some years ago.
Also, this is Israel policy to assassinate all of its protesters around the world.
Hezbollah commander was assassinated according to mentioned Israel policy. Israel invader and occupier policy will continue if Hezbollah, Syria, Lebanon and all other victims don't have a considerable reaction.
This is possible if Hezbollah or Syria do somethings as revenge, Israel use it and claim another war. But I don't think Hezbollah, Syria and Lebanon should forget this kind of assassinations.
As an Irani we experienced a long time war that continued about eight years. So I know what war is completely. At that time we fighted with Saddam regime but actually we were flighting with a lot of union countries such as US, some western European countries, Soviets, etc. which aid Saddam against Iran. Now you can see results...
If I say you Hezbollah, Syria and Lebanon government should defense their-selves against Israel, I know the result of this resists.
At last you will be win in war against invading and occupying. |
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Maya
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Nothing stands between a reoccupation of Lebanon by Israel other than the forces of Nasrallah. The planned assassinations must end; Hezbollah is not attempting to murder high-ranking jews. |
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deemoraad
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To start off, we dont have much to worry about things happening in lebanon anytime soon. The mora3ida is smart enough to know that we cant afford another genocide in lebanon. Theyll probably take a big hit against israel, something outside of the hot zone though (lebanon and israel). How israel retaliates however, is what exactly we have to worry about. |
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Shadi (loves candice)
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Webby,
u know i love u so much, but u view things from ur own perspective, israel occupy lands and kill people for her own good, is that Democracy, we dont have a government which is strong enough, thats why hizballa is protecting us, and if u remember, in july war, sayyed hassan said to israel "if u hit beirut we will hit tel aviv" and for ur info, beirut is full of sunnas who are against hizballa but sayyed hassan protected beirut, dont u take this into consideration, sayyed hassan is smart, he knows wt to do and when to do, and he looks very confident, We are all behind him, sorry webby but u should refresh ur memory a little bit and think more logically, imagine ur family thrown on the streets for other invaders to be palced in ur house. does it make sense, think abt it.
Pinky, Ghanouge, Angelo, sheikha, i agree with u and also bush:warcrimer |
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HopelessZ00
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Hi Webby, I just need to say to you that I'm finished.......These Politics and these people will not stop for the next 1000000 years. I can't change the mind of a piece of wood. It is stuck too hard. There has been war and killing from the day this earth was created and until the day the world ceases to exist it will not stop. On the good side , on the bad side, black or white. I can only see the colours in between and wish that all innocent people stay safe. I hope you understand me. Peace. |
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iran (persia)
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hoping for war?
yes if it's a holy war with a sacred cause. (for god's sake).
martyrdom is the highest honor in islam for a man as is in all cultures and societies.
and every true hezbollah fighter is equivelant to a 1000 zionist soldiers. that's how the myth of israels invincibility was broken. |
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G Bone
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I hate all Lebanese parties.. |
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Aussie
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Hopeless summed it up very well.....I would have said it is like talking to those statues on Easter Island !
People on both sides have hearts of stone ....the old Aussie saying that it is like talking to an empty 44 gallon drum comes to mind !
These " leaders " on all sides come at the problem with a myopic point of view ...they only look at the question from their side & aren't prepared to consider the interest of any other ...this isn't about Jews , Christians or Muslims ...this is about PEOPLE ....men , women & kids who just wish to live peaceful lives ...have a future for themselves & their families ....celebrate their individuality , whether that be their cultural heritage , religion or local identity .
The problem is that when so many ...namely the Palestinians in Gaza , the destitute in Lebanon ,all coincidentally of arab heritage .....see no future , they are easy pickings for some snake oil salesman with the gift of the gab , who promises them what they want to hear !
Sound familiar ! Remember Adolf ! Exactly the same situation ...Germans were in that position during the depression & Adolf came with brilliant oratory & led them to almost total destruction & the world to 6 years of hellish war!
People , WE can make a difference ...we can choose not to blindly follow any leader on any side but to think the issue through for ourselves & openly discuss without all of the pettiness , hatred & anger that has appeared here over the last few days ...
Is this reasonable ? Can we do this ? |
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Just out of curiousity how can an organisation that supposedly is only interested in Aid and Education go to war?
Who do they repersent exactly apart from Syrian and Iranian interest.
How can they claim to be the repersentatives of Palestine, When they are rejected by Palestinian voters
simple fact is Hezzbollah are terrorists and I do not care if it was Isreal the US or France who took out this murdering coward (remember this is the guy who shot an unarmed man in the back of the head and threw him out of an aircraft in Beruit.
He has done everything possible to make Lebanon a war zone and the simple fact which no-one can deny is the vast majority of Lebanese people are glad he is dead |
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samsoomathemadruba
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He was on the list of 12 countries, Mugniyah has been implicated in the 1983 bombings of the U.S. Embassy, and U.S. Marine and French peacekeeping barracks, which killed over 350, as well as the 1992 bombings of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires and the kidnapping of dozens of foreigners in Lebanon in the 1980s. The most high profile attacks he is claimed to be responsible for took place in early 1980's shortly after the founding of Hezbollah for which he is a founding member who at the time was aged in his early 20's.
Israelis are good but why give them all the credit, and whats the logic behind Nassrallah statements, after all he will be eliminated just as fast. |
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Me
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I am eager to know that myself... no one answered, why do u think? at least no one answered what u asked about EXACTLY and the way u asked them to, one guy has said he is supporter, why haven't the others answered? ... he wants war?!.. well, I don't folow him |
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