Are palestenians the rightful owners of israel?

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Annt Hu DeShalit

Is that supposed to be funny?

Although less accurate, "free Palestine" sounds better than "help us take the land from Jews."

Pretending to be human rights activist and humanitarians also assist Arabs in funding and public relations.

The name "Palestine" was coined by a Greek historian who visited Israel during the first Jewish deportation. Since he knew only Greek, he used only Greek speaking minorities, and the Greek speaking minority in Israel was Philistines.

Indeed the call to "Free Palestine" is a lie.

This land was never under local Arab rule, and was under local non-Jewish rule only 3,500 years ago, by nations that became extinct long time ago.

This lie is dangerous because those who ask to free from occupation, actually demand to put the Jews under foreign occupation. This offers no peace, but only bloodshed.

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unforsakenme

Around 2000 years ago, the Jews owned it. Then the Romans, then the Ottomans, then the Turks, then the British.

Though my history could be wrong.
Ah well, you get my point, it's been through many hands.
The rightful owner is God, (:
Muslim Jews and Christians have lived on that land.
I just wished it stayed that way and was peaceful.

So, Jews owned it some 2000 years ago, then Arabs owned it some 800 years ago.
The land has had an arab majority for a long time, and many Palestinians that live as refugees still have the deeds and documents of their homes and land.
I get confused, I never liked history.
Just look it up.
Good luck~

Duane

Yes,whether Muslim or Christian. It is their homeland. There is no longer any need to enter into any discussion regarding claims put forth by the Zionists; they have turned the Holy Land into a land of bloodshed and violence and the world asks one things of them and one thing only: get out. Most are atheists anyway.

InquisitiveMind

Arent Native American Indians the rightful owners of America????

so that would be....uh Yahhhh!

I just feel sorry for the Pro Israeli's that hang onto a twig of hope in their answer,using a pathetic line like this....
Palestinians never owned Israel....
Why is it the majority of occupants were Palestinians but somehow Palestinians did not own it?
A little education goes along way people....lies get you know where far.

Miss Sarah

Hmmm let's see...

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

The answer to the question is: YES.

The Palestinians are the rightful owners of Palestine.

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Kevin, I got this right off the book, borrow it from the Library sometime.

P.S. nothing really changed. All that was added was that "we bought" some of the land, I realize some of the land was bought, but the percentage is barely visible.

rundevilrun

Yes,they would in any event as much as the Syrians have a right to Syria,the Jordanians to Jordan and so on. Obviously Palestine belongs to it's people. As to the "jewish" - most are actually atheists - claim,it is based on the ludicrous idea that atheists who had grandparents who practiced Judaism are descended from the long-extinct Hebrews of the ancient world. This is utter nonsense; it's like a Lebanese claiming to be a direct descendant of the Phoenicians.

Shadi

Yes Palestinians are the rightful owners of Palestine!

Jews were less than 2% of population before immigration :
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/israel_palestine_pop.html

The zionist project was established to erase Palestinian villages, towns, farms and history.
http://www.palestineremembered.com/index.html

"We not only eradicated Arab place names we actually destroyed the places as well.The Israeli erasure of Palestinian history was consciously as complete as possible."
(former Jerusalem deputy mayor-Meron Benvenisti)

Read: Erasing words, names and a way of life By Ariel Hirschfeld :
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1047897.html

Also, History Erased, by Meron Rapoport :
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/878851.html

✡Israel Lover✡ †-pray4revival-†

Israel belongs to the Israelis.

Lion of Judah Regular

Bosco

Yes; they dwelt there in peace with Christians and real Jews - religious Jews - for at least four hundred to fourteen hundred years before the zionist-atheists seized control of the territory by violence. They have done nothing constructive; their only goal is to destroy Palestine and the Palestinian people.

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@ clyde:

"Sarah, a mere mortal, somehow hoodwinked God and God fell for it"

?????????

and hagar, ishmael's mother was what? immortal?" she was a concubine, she wasn't abraham real wife, like sarah. and then she was send away to the desert...
it says so in the bible!

and the bible also follows the story of how G-d took the children of israel out of egypt, gave them the torah and brought them to the jewish land earlier promised to abraham. the children of israel = the people who believe in the G-d of abraham, ISAAC, and jacob, and they are their descendants!
not the descendants of ishmael!

Teresa (SFECU) -†- pray4revival

No, but I have to say the wording of your question proves the ignorance of those who believe these Arabs have some such "right".

You see, Israel is not just a tiny nation wedged into the center of 22 Arab countries.

Israel is comprised of all Jewish people in the world. Their historic homeland is their Holy Land and it is known as the Nation of Israel. So to imply that these so-called Arab-Palestinians have some right to own Israel is to imply that they have the right to own all the Jewish people of the world and nothing could be further from the truth. Despite 60+ years of wars and proxy wars aimed at forcing them back into submission, NO one has had the right to own Israel since God sent Moses to free his people from Egypt.

Israel Forever!!

What?

No. They never owned it in the first place.

gallop on princess

yes
thats what the country is really called

Shalab

the one who said 2000 years was owned by jews....thats wrong ......its Palestinian long time ago.................they just stole it and kiced out from all over counties in Europe ...and finally the UN gave them Palestine "occupy in 1948"

dandyl

No, Israel never belonged to any Arabs.The country has belonged to the Jewish people for over 3000 years.The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C.E., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what are now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century C.E., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.3

The Hebrews entered the Land of Israel about 1300 B.C.E., living under a tribal confederation until being united under the first monarch, King Saul. The second king, David, established Jerusalem as the capital around 1000 B.C.E. David's son, Solomon built the Temple soon thereafter and consolidated the military, administrative and religious functions of the kingdom. The nation was divided under Solomon's son, with the northern kingdom (Israel) lasting until 722 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed it, and the southern kingdom (Judah) surviving until the Babylonian conquest in 586 B.C.E. The Jewish people enjoyed brief periods of sovereignty afterward before most Jews were finally driven from their homeland in 135 C.E.

Jewish independence in the Land of Israel lasted for more than 400 years. This is much longer than Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States. In fact, if not for foreign conquerors, Israel would be 3,000 years old today.

Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not."

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.

Natassia

Well....I don't know.

The Israelis have done no more to the Arabs than what the Arabs did to the Jews in Saudi Arabia 1400 years ago.

Yoni R

no not at all, the palestinian claim to the land is baseless.

reason 1: THEY NEVER OWENED IT. it was never once under palestinian rule. palestinians were living in trans-jordan. when israel was made a state,after the british mandate, the two entites in israel were then trans-jordan and israel. israel was legally voted in by the UN. then, trans-jordan and and 6 other arab states attacked israel, and OH NO!! israel crushed their asses!! and took the land which was owened by jordan which palestinians were living on. kinda like the way EVERY COUNTY ON THIS EARTH CURRENTLY WAS MADE MOST LIKLEY THE ONE UR LIVING IN!! every country at one point was owned by someone else

reason 2: the area that pre israel israelis were living was actually purchased from the palestinians using funds that were rfaised in america.

o btw the term palestinian that refers to muslims israelis is actually relitley recent, in the past both jewish and muslims were reffered to as palestinians

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"Miss Sarah" will never learn, she will never stop publishing misquotes and fabrications.

Your quote debunked: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=21&x_article=371

Kate J

nope. They never OWNED the property. It was not theirs to keep or dispose of in the first place.

They DIDN'T WANT IT!!!

Those who left, did so voluntarily.

Now, because the land is beautiful and productive, thanks to the heavy-duty work ethic of the people who live there, now, they want it "back".

I promise, if they ever get it back, within one generation, the land will return to barren desert and malarial swampland.

Jim E

No. Not at all. Do you know how many times that lands been conquered the last 2000 years ?

gottago

Individual Palestinians are the rightful owners of individual pieces of land. But as a group, they don't own Israel; the British gave it to the Jews. And what the British didn't give them, Israel won in DEFENSIVE wars. According to international law, any land won in defensive wars is the rightful property to the people who won it.

tambovi

Bravo,Kevin!

rosends

I'm not sure what you mean by "rightful owners" -- are the other nomadic tribes of 1000 years ago the "rightful owners" of any particular land? should england give canada back to the indians?
there was never a nation of palestine so while there may be some individual arabs who owned parcels, the land is israel now.

Mobius

Many of the Arab residents of what is now Israel owned private property, and lost it as a result of the war launched by the surrounding countries as well as by many of those residents.

They should be compensated financially for their loss, but any ownership rights were forfeited by attempting to annihilate Israel. Actions have consequences.

If you try to kill me, you put your property in the game. You can't come back 60 war-torn years later and demand that I reinstall you comfortably on the hilltop overlooking my house, especially given that you make it clear you'll use it to attack me again.

Kevin S

@ Miss Sarah "We came to a region of land that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a Jewish state. In a considerable number of places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the books, the villages aren't around. Nahalal was established in the place of Mahalul, and Gvat was established in the place of Jibta, Sarid in the place of Huneifis and Kfar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There isn't any place that was established in an area where there had not at one time been an Arab settlement."

Here is the actual quote so is your answer still yes?

BTW david ben gurion never said that, it was moshe dayan and this was after 67 war.

@SARAH

Barely visible?

Read Army of Shadows

80% of land purchases were form Peasants. The 1937 partition included 7% of owned land. Palestinian arabs on the other hand could not own land that British owned.......they either owned private land which amounted to 7% -15% or they lived on British land (taken from the Original owners who were ottomans).

If you believe I provided a fake quote then what about all those quotes where arabs claim there is no such thing as a palestinian people. By this logic, I would have to say they are real quotes as well. They manifest my agenda and the above fits your agenda. Right?

Sarah has a good point though. If someone can prove that Britain didn't own the rest of the land via absentee landlords and the ottomans...........then yes we the Jews have no right there legally speaking. But this cannot be proven. If you go to palestineremmberd.com notice it says palestinians and others.....

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