As a de facto state does Gaza have the right to maintain a standing army and import arms?

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Zeno

Under international law it most certainly does. I saw the P.M. on tv a few weeks ago and raised that issue at a press conference: why is the zionist government importing vast amounts of firepower without interference but if Gaza attempts to import arms it is called "smuggling"? I think he had a point. They have as much right to import arms as any other nation - and to have hostile forces removed from their waters and airspace.

opal1331

Every country should have that right, and the right to shoot down any plane that infringes on their airspace without permission. The Israeli's have been known to down even commercial, passenger aircraft when they are even close to their airspace.
But, Israel will never allow any country around them to have a standing army or military equipment with which to defend themselves against the Israeli oppression.

J Q Public

They should be able to,but the fact is they are outgunned and outfunded. Starting out as the underdog is not an easy problem to overcome.

Galahad

Yes. It is also entitled to demand that the UN clear it's territorial waters and to shoot down on unauthorized planes penetrating it's airspace.

gypsy_cat 345

Of course it does, and only the Zionazis (and those they've unfortunately brainwashed) will say otherwise.
The fledgling United States raised a standing army when it was still a British colony, and it's laughable to think it would have won independence without it.
I totally concur with Galahad that Gaza has every right to shoot down incursors into its airspace as well!

Matanmeron---go boink yerself, ya silly little gobshite, lol.

Brynn

Simply put: yes. Morally as well as under international law.

Maya

It has the right,the obligation and it needed the financing and diplomatic support,which I hope will be forthcoming since the situation has become urgent. They desperately need a better defense system.

Allan M (Stop stealing land)

Yes they should shoot down any aircraft that violates their airspace. They should also be allowed a navy to protect it's waters. I think Hamas should sign a deal with Egypt or Syria or any powerful Arab nation which will provide it protection and represent it in the international community, and in return should allow Hamas self rule in Gaza Strip. This would be a win-win situation because Hamas is very popular in Gaza and Egypt can take the responsibility of arming Hamas to defend itself. Hamas already has it's military wing, so I think the "infrastructure" is in place, only the Arab nations need to help them financially to get armed to defend themselves. Hamas has shown an incredible capability to manufacture rockets with limited resources, given the proper conditions and resources they might be able to even develop powerful rockets for use by the Egyptian military or for export, thus strengthening the economy. As far as I am concerned, Hamas should declare itself independent and Gaza under it's control and allow itself to be represented by an powerful Arab nation, which can provide it protection and allow Hamas self rule. I feel for Hamas, they were democratically elected but the Jews did not like it and tried to isolate it. The Arab nations are useless if you ask me. They have all the oil wealth and no one can dare object them, but they are too obsessed with their multi-billion dollar "projects" like the artificial islands, entire cities bs. They do not realize that a fraction of their money given to Palestine will make a difference to them. They are too selfish to think about the innocent Palestinians being killed. It makes me want to think what can I do personally to make a difference to Palestine, besides praying which is the only thing I can do now.

PS: Sorry for the poor wording.

massi R

yes of cours because thre r two reasons if we look from defrent views
1)defend the palestinians from the daily zionist attacks
2)bring the dream of independens and the holy land stolen since the zionists enter palestine in 1912

naserq22

let us look to things in a different way
US in its war against communism they made a front in afghanistan from arab moslems trained them ,financed armed them with the most saphisticated weapons and ..later these groups won the war
later the same group is called terrorists and america is in a war against them what bad that russia is giving them weapons?did nt US did the same
another question,cheney rumsfield -saddams relation ship ,they were one front together with gulf states and saudia together with jordan and egypt
they gave saddam the gazes and the chemical weapons but few years later they sieged his country killing almost 3 000 000 till now of the iraqies
well again palestinians were promised for free elections hamas won the day after they started consperusies against hamas another example US is complaining about arresting an activist in china but never complained the killing of an american activist for human rights under israeli puldozers while he was shielding a palestinian house or the british who was shot in gaza by trooper
US complains the arrests of 100 in china which population is 1 300 000 000 while no complains for arresting 11 000 palestinians some were members of parliment ,palestinians in west bank and gaza are less than 3 000 000
is the 100 out of 1 300 000 000 place to complain considering 11 000 /3 000 000

Bahira

Yes,and to go by last month I think they need one - a big one.

LEE DA

Absolutely yes, unified Palestinian State must have all the rights of a statehood for its own peace and the peace of the region. Denying The State of Palestine its right to bear arms for self defense would only be an in invitation of endless belligerence and aggression.

m i

I don't think they're a de jure state. They're in a very weird situation, as they're under foreign occupation. Israel has been trying for quite some time to say they don't occupy Gaza, yet it only recognizes the leadership in the PA and not the leadership in Gaza. Of course the West Bank where the PA has some control is entirely occupied, and under the Oslo agreements the two parts are one entity.

Under the Hague Regulations, the Occupying Power must protect the interests of the civilian population in the occupied territory - ensure food, water medical care and provide humane treatment for prisoners, respect due process rights and so forth. Well of course Israel has been regularly violating that. Also, recognizing the coercive power of occupying forces, I belive international law also says that those living under occupation cannot negotiate away territory (I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word for it).

If Gaza truly weren't occupied they certainly would would have the right to a sovereign army, and if they had that army they probably wouldn't be legally occupied.

But bear in mind that Israel wants the occupation of Gaza to be considered ended. Probably because

a) it would then not be responsible for the health (food, water, medical care, even employment and so forth) for the Palestinians in Gaza (not that it's really ever fulfilled that responsibility )

b) The Occupying power may only kill people who are directly involved in harming the occupying forces, and only while they're engaged in harming them (also regularly violated by Israel), and must make every effort to use arrest and non-lethal means for its protection. If Gaza had an army, Israel could then attack it. Well, legally, they would have no justification for crossing outside their borders, actually, unless they were at war.

So here's my summary. Israel wants the occupation of Gaza, a territory it currently controls under belligerent occupation, to legally be over, in part so that it can legitimately be at war with it as a "hostile entity" and attack and destroy it. Go figure.

tamarindwalk

I concur, it most definitely does.

doodle

Sure, but right now Gaza is in absolute shambles. In my opinion, it would be in Gaza's best interest to stop fighting and start focusing on the health and lives of the people living there. There isn't much there that actually is organized right now, and I think if they started trying to form and spend money on an army and more weapons it would just worsen the situation. What Gaza really needs is a stable government that actually cares about it's people and wants to help them and encourage positive relations with other countries. As a fledgling state in a critical situation, I think it is good that they don't have even more violence there, and I think they do need some guidance on how to control a people and a land.

Shalom, Salaam

matan

Gazza is Ruled by an army of terrorists that are bombing Israel for the past few years non stop and as terrorists they have no righs at all. Anyway in Gazza there is Anarchy!!
One of the only places in the world that has anarchy right now.

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