Can one compare Israeli actions in Gaza to those of the Nazis?

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Monica

I think it's a pretty good comparison.

Its sad that so many people, mostly Americans, have no idea what's really going on over there.

How can he be anti-Semitic? The Jews and Palestinians are both Semites. Actually some of the Jews might not be Semites ... being Semitic has to do with the region you're originally from, not your religion.

He appears to be anti-Zionist, and I agree with him.

Brynn

Certainly. It was very reminiscent of the siege of the Warsaw Ghetto,as was widely noted.

Maya

Yes. Things can be done under cloak of wartime secrecy that cannot be done openly during relative peace,so a comparison with the holocaust is unfair; the zionists must operate openly as things stand. It is more reasonable to compare Nazi abuse of jews in the pre-war 30's with contemporary Palestine than to make a wartime comparison. By that standard the zionists are actually worse. Even including Kristallnacht at no point from 1933-1940 were German jews subjected to anything even remotely approaching the violence and destruction and the restrictions and endless daily humiliations put upon the Palestinians. It is far worse to be a Palestinian in your own country today than to have been a jew in pre-war Naz Germany. If anything the comparison rather understates the matter. No,I don't think Dr. Falk is anti-semitic in the usual sense of the term - ethnic bigotry - although the term will obviously be used as a slur against his character. He seems bold enough to perform his new functions admirably; he is certainly correct that the zionist regime has gotten off lightly in terms of UN sanctions and popular opinion. I commend him for his courage.

mark

The Nazis did not starve the people for 2 years for political reasons.

shameless2youbaby

dont know Gloria...
i just wanna say lets forget about Israel and help palestine people build up a new country
a better one! i mean its 2008 and evryone deserves to live like a human being or am I wrong??? i dont pay any attention to Israelis ...
palestine people suffered a lot so we shouldnt make a situation worst
btw...i read an article in newspaper about palestine girls...would you believe they enjoy a football??? cool isnt it??

Stainless Steel

I think the whole world believes that those poor arabs defend themselves against the jewish terrorism, using those Mickey-Mouse darts.
Check these links out:
http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2706.cfm
http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/bbccntryview08/
The jews redefine the Nazi term day by day.
Sometimes I wonder if the jews away from israel are truly "blind"? Can't they see those horrible things that their brothers and sisters are doing to those people?
Terrible country. That's my opinion.

iceman

Well let's see,

In WW2, Jews were inhumanely placed in concentration camps, and brutally victimized for many years.

In 1948 Palestinians were inhumanely placed in concentration camps, and since been brutally victimized.

I don't see much differences.

Regards.

Actions of the barbaric gov. of a country has nothing to do with the people of such nation ,and they aren't to be blamed for it.

Regards.

shangri_la111

i agree with the professor its too close for comfort.....even some israeli opposition politicians have voiced their concern about identity cards...............the ghettos..............the road blocks.....arrests and torture etc
.........every israeli must feel it inside................personally i never thought i would see the peace process in northern ireland succeed as it did..........so anything is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IWCq-b5m9s

Sophia B

It's definitely a widespread comparison, with good reason. And no, it isn't anti-Semitic. Heck, why would an anti-Semite cite the oppression of Jews?

Galahad

Yes,and i wish Dr. Falk the best,he seems like a pretty gutsy guy.

Jasmine

"Can one compare Israeli actions in Gaza to those of the Nazis?"

yes of course.

Bahira

I'm sure he is speaking of the pre-war persecutions not the Holocaust which as Maya points out took place under circumstances of great secrecy which are unavaliable to contemporary Israel. Using that comparison they are worse by a wide margin. I don't think his comments proceed from any antipathy to Jews; I think like virtually any human rights activist he understandably has a very,very low opinion of the current government of That Country Formerly Known as Palestine.

tamarindwalk

I don't think it's quite reached that stage. But it's approaching it as the days go by.

It is a very, very sad thing to see that a people who suffered incredible persecution at the hand of the Nazis begin to use the very tools that were used to persecute them. And it has caused many to lose a considerable amount of the respect and sympathy that once was held for Israel.

Also, I do not consider Professor Falk or anyone who is critical of the state of Israel (i.e. the government of Israel) to be anti-semetic. We're discussing an issue of governance and not a religious issue here. And it is best to understand this at all times when discussing Israel's conduct towards Palestine.

joe the man

you can compare anything to anything, it's up to people to judge if your comparison is realistic or not.

Friend

Check out, on this very question who is answering. There are several pure "nazi" types who have no loyalty to the palestinian people. They simply infest this section using their war-like user names to try and incite a verbal bashing of Jewish people. They never offer anything even remotely helpful towards the people of gaza and yet if you look at their "thumbs up" they get bunches. Who is giving them their approval? There is no doubt the Israel supporters are NOT the Nazis on this board and not in Israel as well.

Valerie A

I do not see the comparison.
Even Mr. Falk does not; he admits to making the statement for its shock value, not because it is true.

jdriven5

I think it's a dirty remark and insulting . You think the UN employs Israeli fans. Not in this lifetime.
You should hear what I think about cats.

riviva

If one chooses to grossly exploit history and manipulate the facts in order to over embellish a situation, then yes, one could.

I could also compare the orange in my fridge to the African slave trade. But would it make sense?

The answer, in both cases, is no. In the first case, it is also inappropriate and offensive.

Feivel JPAA

UN? Well as China sits on the Commission for Human Rights at the UN, why would anyone care what they had to say? Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and the Russian Federation are all seated as well. None have great track records.
Personally I do not care what the UN has to say. They have spent a great deal of time condeming Israel for its actions but never condemning Arab states. Go figure.
The UN has lost any value it had (if any) and should be disbanded and the "diplomats" sent home.
To compare Israeli actions to those of Nazi's tells me that the person is either ignorant of historical and current events, has a personal agenda, may possibly be anit-Semitic and perhaps is motivated by something other than idelogoy (greed perhaps?).
The UN is the most corrupt organization around.
Who cares what they have to say.

H.Hero

Murdering innocent victims is just plain cruel. It is sad that Israel has to defend that way. So who is guilty of it happening?

SOLDER

worse then the Nazi's , at least they did not kill kids and women.

moneymaxer

That is a really hateful comparison.
I would suggest talking to your psychiatrist.

Rossonero NorCal SFECU

I think he's par for the course with the UNHRC, and that he either doesn't know how brutal the nazis were or is just using the word "nazi" to try and get people to pay attention to him.

UPDATE: The person above me claims the nazis didn't kill women and children... now I've heard everything!

thegospodinofffamily

Well, you could make a comparison if you didn't use facts. Whomever suggested this is, in my opinion, anti-Semitic.

Paperback Writer JPA

Here, compare for yourself:

Let's start with the numbers.

In WW2, the Nazis in Germany and other European countries murdered HALF the Jews on this planet. Six million innocents.

In Gaza, the Palestinian population is steadily INcreasing. How can it be increasing if as you say, the situation is similar to Nazi Germany?

The Jews in Germany were law abiding citizens who worked and lived and intermarried with the Germans. They were not attacking the Germans.

The Palestinians in Gaza have, for seven years, been lobbing missiles into Israel and killing and maiming Israeli children. They are deliberately selecting hospitals and schools as targets - they freely admit this.

The Jews were rounded up and taken to the concentration camps along with JWs, gypsies, gays and anyone else who didn't fit the 'Aryan' ideal that Hitler had.

The Palestinians have total control of Gaza and have had for a number of years - they elected their own government, Hamas. The Hamas charter OPENLY calls for the total destruction of Israel. Hamas openly takes credit for every single suicide bombing it carries out in Israel.

The German Jews got no help from anyone outside Germany. They were tortured and starved and slaughtered in the camps. Those that tried to flee Germany found there was nowhere to flee TO - no other country would grant them sanctuary.

The Palestinian Authority has received BILLIONS from America and other countries. Hamas receives millions from many Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria.

The Germans built the concentration camps SPECIFICALLY to kill as many Jews as possible. They detailed this in the notes of some of their meetings and they kept meticulous records.

In Israel, any ill or wounded Palestinian children are taken to ISRAELI hospitals where they are cared for alongside Israeli children. The Israelis built schools and hospitals in Gaza - why didn't Egypt do that when SHE occupied Gaza, prior to 1967? There are no concentration camps in Israel. Israeli Arabs live as equal citizens; they vote and worship as they please. Arab politicians sit in the Israeli parliament.

There is no 'collective punishment' in Israel. When Hamas terrorists deliberately aim their missiles from civilians areas, aren't THEY the ones putting their own people at risk?

What would ANY OTHER COUNTRY do if attacked the way Israel is attacked? What would YOUR country do?

What happened in Germany was not 'punishment'. It was genocide.

oxymandia

Not even close. The Nazis promoted systematic extinction, and the Jews were not bombarding them with rockets.

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