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Did the Nazis try to persecute and kill Jews in the Middle East and North Africa? |
When the Nazis moved down to the North Africa region, there were several smaller Jewish communities at the time in the area. I heard the Nazis tried to make these Jews wear special badges indicating they were Jews like they made the Jews in Europe wear, and persecute and kill them or get the local Arabs/Muslims to help in persecuting them. Is this true and what exactly did they do to the Jews in the Middle East and Africa when they came in contact with them? Were they ever sent to any extermination camps? |
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Stainless Steel
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Nope! The nazis have been real busy killing Palestinians lately.
They did a darn pretty good job in Gaza last January actually.
They have even built a giant concrete wall around Palestine, just like they did in Berlin a few years back.
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...Elhy... [Lovato]
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No , he actually didn't try , the Jews people of Middle east and North Africa were quite different from these of Europe and had no impact on the European/German society as had the Ashkenazes.
But I've heard that Hitler wanted to take the Jews from Morocco to his control , but the Moroccan King refused , because he considered Moroccan jews as "his own citizens" and part of his people. Most of Moroccan jews see this Moroccan king as beeing their "heroe" & when he died , all Moroccan jews were sad and paid homage to him. |
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Miss Sarah
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It is not true. There had never been a Holocaust in the Middle East nor North Africa.
Jews were not persecuted in the Middle East nor North Africa. Back then, there was no tension between Jews and Arabs. |
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Zeno
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No. Both Lebanon and Syria were under the control of the Vichy France regime set up by the Nazis under Marshal Petain for more than two years. The German government operated freely throughout both countries and the French Mandate for both countries was under their direct supervision. There were no persecutions of Jews. This was also the case during the short-lived pro-Nazi regime of Rashid Ali in Iraq. So we have three Nazi-dominated Arab states during the first half of the war but no persecution of Jews. |
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SARA
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Jews has a great life under Arab Rule, they advanced in medicine, philosophy, astronomy etc...
but some arab (both christian and muslims) were racist towards jews.
so they are judging ALL arabs on the actions of the minority. |
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tamarindwalk
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The Nazis never occupied any part of the Middle East.
And their stay in North Africa was too short lived for them to go after the Jewish population there. |
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Math nerd
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I don't believe so. Because Hitler authorized Jews to get exterminated or leave Europe. He wanted all Jews out of Europe and not the whole world, but it is understandable to think that way because he indeed was a Napoleon wanabee. And BTW the muslims that lived in North Africa/Palestine area never persecuted nor pogromed the Jews. The Jews and Chrisitans lived in "millets" religious communitites where people were allowed to visit holy sites, practice their religions freely, and govern their own communities. Actually, Jews never faced anti-semitism from the Muslim ottomans unlike the Christian Europeans. Even most of the Popes and the Bishops were anti-semitic. |
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kismet
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They did not have to try very hard.
Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (Arafat's uncle and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) submitted to the German government[112] a draft declaration of German-Arab cooperation, containing a clause:
Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.
On November 20, 1940, al-Husayni met the German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28. He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland". Hitler refused to make such a public announcement, saying that it would strengthen the Gaullists against the Vichy France, but asked al-Husayni to 'to lock ...deep in his heart' the following points, which Browning summarizes as follows, that
‘Germany has resolved, step by step, to ask one European nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time, direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well'. When Germany had defeated Russia and broken through the Caucasus into the Middle East, it would have no further imperial goals of its own and would support Arab liberation... But Hitler did have one goal. Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power. (Das deutsche Ziel würde dann lediglich die Vernichtung des im arabischen Raum unter der Protektion der britischen Macht lebenden Judentums sein). In short, Jews were not simply to be driven out of the German sphere but would be hunted down and destroyed even beyond it.
the statement made by Hitler on 28 November, 1941 was that at the moment of Arab liberation
"Germany had no interest there other than the destruction of the power protecting the Jews" (die Vernichtung der das Judentum protegierenden Macht).[118]
This conversation took place two months before the Wannsee Conference settled on the Final Solution and the systematic annihilation of the European Jews. The Mufti's own diary, seized after the war, and his later recollections recall the encounter... |
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Tequila
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Yes, Jews of Libya and Tunis come to mind. For example, here's a brief synopsis on the experience of the Libyan Jews.
" . . . Between July and October 1943, about 100 Jews were deported to a concentration camp in Insbrook, Austria, where they remained until April 1944; . . . In May 1944, a few of the detainees were sent to Bergen Belsen and Biberach, near Munich; ... On the Western frontier, the Jews of Cyrenaica were ordered by Mussolini to be sent to a detention camp in Libya. This "clearing out" process ... was aimed at evacuating 591 Jews from the capital, Benghazi, and sending them to an internment camp in Giado, 235 kms. from Tripoli.... By late June, 1942, more than 2500 people were removed from Cyrenaica. Those who were interned in Giado faced many hardships and bad conditions, which resulted in the breakout of typhus in the camp, causing the death of young and old members of several families. About 500 people perished in the camp. In August of that year, another camp was set up in Sidi Azaz, near Tripoli. According to De Felice, one thousand Jews were sent to this camp to work as slave laborers. Of those, 350 were employed in Tobruk. When the Axis forces withdrew, they were abandoned in the desert. After a long march across the desert, they managed to reach Tripoli, exhausted but safe."
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/libyajew/LibyanJews/RoumaniAspects.html
" . . . The Germans never occupied Morocco or Algeria. Though they briefly occupied Tunisia from November 1942, . . . until May 1943, the Germans never had the time or the resources to subject Tunisian Jews systematically to the measures implemented in areas under direct German rule in Europe.
"Nonetheless, attacks on Jews and Jewish property by local European antisemites and native Muslims, which had taken place before the war in all three countries (Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia), continued unhindered by the Vichy authorities. . . ."
" . . .The Germans conducted a sweep of the Jewish neighborhood of Tunis and sent those Jews they captured to a camp at Cheylus, near the city. At the same time, the SS arrested one hundred Jewish notables in the Tunis community headquarters in order to compel them to provide Jewish workers for forced labor.
"Approximately 5,000 Tunisian Jewish men were conscripted for almost forty detention camps and forced labor areas near the front lines. These camps were run by both the Germans and the Italians; the most important one was the military port at Bizerte, under German control. Conditions in the camps were awful, particularly those run by the Germans."
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007312
See also:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/jl102.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/satloff.html
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Jews_outside_Europe_under_Nazi_occupation |
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Jon
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While those in the Middle East and North Africa were BY IN LARGE safe from the nazis, prominent Muslim leaders (like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) did express solidarity with Hitler. |
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Mark S, JPAA
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In addition, in 1937 the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini, expressed his solidarity with Germany, asking the Nazi Third Reich to oppose establishment of a Jewish state, stop Jewish immigration to Palestine, and provide arms to the Arab population. |
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i don't know if they got to north africa, but if they would have had the time, they would have tried to set up some camps there. |
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http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9LPfB2ytM |
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tambovi
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Nazis could not conquer the Middle East,although they counted with the unanimous support of arabs there.This is why they could not do in the Middle East the same they did in Europe(concentration camps,gas chamber and the mass extermination of Jews).
But they did all they could.BTW,the yellow badge,contrary to the common opinion,is not the Nazi´s invention.In the ninth century, Baghdad's Caliph al-Mutawakkil designated a yellow badge for Jews, setting a precedent that would be followed centuries later in Nazi Germany. |
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Simple Simon
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Germans presence in the North Africa was short and they did not have much resources.
Germans were limited in man power and ammunition to kill Jews. There was no railroad system to take Jews out, etc.
Besides, it was Germans who called Arabs The Towel Heads. |
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Kevin S
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They killed morrocan Jews and Algerian Jews........
The Palestinian arab leadership in Palestine convinced Hitler to create more concentration camps in Poland so Jews would not emigrate to Palestine leading to thousands of more dead Jews. |
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