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Do Israeli's view Palestinians as 'sub-human'?


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tal,
why do you say that?

    



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Shay p
This question was for Israelis wasn't it ???
I am one so let me tell you, during my life I've been in contact with many, in the Gaza in Ramalla in Jerusalem, some have worked with me some have worked for me, Never NEVER did I think of them in a negative way, they are people, human beings like me like you, had them in my house visited them in theirs, respected and was respected back.
Even though times are tough most have not changed, I still keep in touch with most. Now-days we communicate by phone. I believe things will change for the better soon.

MIMI
The Palestinians don't ???
Let me share just one or two !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLUrMEugKw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8w7_P8wZ0&feature=related


Lebanese Cheese
I heard jews refer to the palestinians as "Arabs" and they call the ones living in israel things such as "israeli-arabs" and they also consider the vast majority of the palestinians to be "non-jewish" .... lol

anywho

1) i dont see jews bashing arabs nearly as much as arabs bashing jews
2) ive yet to see a swarm of jews burning an arab nation's flag and chanting "slaughter the arab"
3) the jews ive known have never looked down upon me for being arab, the arabs ive known have looked down upon me for things such as not being the same religion as them.

i just say it like i see it.


Friend
I think most Israelis just wonder how the Palestinians are going to rid themselves of hamas and it's offshoots.


tal
What a rediculious question to ask


dandyl
of course not, but one can say that about the way palestinians (not all) view the israelis, it all starts at home and at schools
in fact at schools in israel
Contrary to suggestions that Israelis do not accept the idea that Palestinians are a people, Israeli textbooks explain the origins of Palestinian nationalism. For example, a 9th grade text observes that “during the 1930's, Arab nationalist movements evolved all over the Middle East. Many of the Arabs of Eretz Yisrael also began formulating a national consciousness — in other words, the perception that they are not just part of the larger Arab nation, but are also Palestinians” (The Twentieth Century - On the Threshold of Tomorrow, Grade 9, 1999, p.44).

While Palestinian texts omit references to Jewish contributions to the world, the Israeli books recognize the achievements of Arabs and Muslims. One text highlights the Arab role as creators of culture: “...they were the first to discover the existence of infectious diseases. They were also the first to build public hospitals. Because of their considerable contribution to various scientific fields, there are disciplines that to this day are called by their Arabic names, such as algebra.” Islam’s contributions are also acknowledged in the same passage: “The Islamic religion also influenced the development of culture. The obligation to pray in the direction of Mecca led to the development of astronomy, which helped identify the direction according to the heavenly bodies. The duty to make a pilgrimage developed geography and gave a push to the writing of travel books. These books, and the Arabs' high capability in map drawing, helped develop trade. To this day, merchants use Arabic words, such as bazaar, check and tariff” (From Generation to Generation, Vol. b, 1994, p. 220)

Palestinian textbooks also negate the Jewish connection to the Holy Land while Israeli texts show respect for the Arab/Muslim attachment to the land. “The Land of Israel in general, and Jerusalem in particular, have been sanctified more and more in Islamic thought — as Islam has developed and spread, both religiously and geographically. As Islam absorbed more and more of the world conquered by it, so it adapted and Islamized the values that it absorbed, including the holiness of the Land of Israel, its flora and its water, living in it, the sanctity of being buried in it and the like. All these became from that time onwards part of orthodox Islam” (H. Peleg, G. Zohar, This is the Land - Introduction to Land of Israel Studies for the Upper Grades, 2000, pp. 161-162.)

Israeli textbooks contain a plurality of views, including those that conflict with conventional research and are critical of Israeli policies. Controversial topics, such as the disputed territories, the refugee issue, and the status of Israeli Arabs are covered from multiple viewpoints. For example, one book quotes historian Benny Morris’s unconventional position attributing the flight of Palestinians in 1947-1948 more to the actions of Jewish forces than the instructions of the leaders of Arab countries (From Exile to Independence - The History of the Jewish People in Recent Generations, vol. 2, 1990, p. 312).

The Arab point of view is also represented. For example, a history text notes how Israel’s government treated Anwar Sadat’s 1971 peace proposal “with scorn out of the feeling of power and superiority that had taken hold of Israeli society following the Six Day War. After his proposal had been rejected and the political stalemate continued, Sadat decided to go to war” (K. Tabibian, Journey to the Past - The Twentieth Century, By Dint of Freedom, 1999, p. 313).

Israeli texts also use simulation games to help students understand different perspectives on an issue. In one, students are told to divide into groups representing Jewish and Palestinian journalists and prepare a report on the discussion in the United Nations leading to the partition resolution. Students are then asked to discuss the differences between the reports of the Jewish and Palestinian journalists (K. Tabibian, Journey To The Past - The Twentieth Century, By Dint of Freedom, 1999, p. 294).

Israel is not perfect and exceptions do exist.


DANIEL W
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No, don't be silly.

Whereas those who organise Israeli civilian deaths are sub-human the majority of Palestinians are normal human beings who probably want peace just as much as most Israelis.


Mimi
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Well I see that all Jews here denied it but what about this:
Rabbi Eliyahu: Life of one yeshiva boy worth more than 1,000 Arabs
http://www.khilafah.com/kcom/analysis/news-watch/rabbi-eliyahu-life-of-one-yeshiva-boy-worth-more-than-1000-arabs.html

this is a Rabbi so he is a teacher. If a Rabbi thinks like that, he probably teaches it to other people so I don't think it is just a few Israelis who think like that.
Tha Palestinians don't think isrealis are sub-humans. They Just see them as occupiers especially that the Israelis control the land.


Al Zymer
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The majority do not; they just want to live their lives without the constant threat of attack by activists. Until their basic right to exist is recognised by all neighbouring states and political groups, they will continue to strike out, like a cat cornered by a dog. The situation is no worse than the atrocities being carried out by groups in Afghanistan, and Iraq.


holmes.john14
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Israelis regard Palestinians as people who have a different culture, which is to say, their own culture--this is quite human!


Cher JPA
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Not at all. During Oslo Israelis started endless programs with terroritory & Israeli Arabs to build bridges, connections, understandings of each other - all in the hopes of peace.

Palestinian Arabs in Israel are full citizens. You forget that 40% of Israeli Jews lived in Arab countries & liked & respected their neighbors and called themselves Arab Jews.

You won't find statements by Jews saying Arabs are dogs or pigs, the way you'll find Arab commentary saying Jews are the sons of monkeys, dogs & pigs.

Read Israeli newspapers if you have any doubt.


Mr. Smartypants™
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Yeah the Israelis and Pals are always calling each other cockroaches, vampires, grasshoppers, beasts, scorpions ect.

Both sides have their factions that act like animals.


Cheeky Monkey
That is a bit strong.

They certainly regard them as being "Non- Jewish".

I know what you are hinting at here, but I'm not sure they are QUITE as bad as nazis. It's actually a wee bit offensive to suggest that- although there are obvious parallels.


jdriven
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After carryng that label through centuries, I don't think that would enter a Jewish mind.


zion no more
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No. If this were the case, then they would not fear Palestinian people.

zionists in my experience stink of fear.


Local Machine
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Yes, I am afraid so.
There are so many (too many actually) utube videos to prove that.
maybe they think that by doing all of those dreadful things to those poor arabs they're gettin' even with the Germans during ww2.
I think Goebels would be very proud for what the jews are doin' rite now in ME.


Londoner In Israel
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A valid and profound question, which is not at all ridiculous.

Every country has its racist individuals, and Israel is no exception. And even among non-racists, some disdain the relatively primitive lifestyle of others without realising that they would likely live the same way under similar conditions.

But on the whole, Israelis are sufficiently educated and humanly compassionate to recognise that Palestinians are of course fellow human beings, and that the enduring conflict between us plays out in spite of, and perhaps even because of, how much we actually have in common with one another.

Londoner In Israel


Why so cynical?
For every Jew that thinks like that there are a 200 who dont.


Mr. X
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nope. the other way around, i couldn't tell you. but that way, no.

we don't hate them, we just want them to leave us alone. and we hope they stop blowing themselves up and blaming us.


harry
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Well, that attempt flopped.


Anita P
No, generally speaking this is not true at all.
I have to admit that there are a few stupid racist between us and unfortunately these few people talk nonsense and some idiots give them even more publicity by putting these videos in You Tube, so that everybody can see this bloody bullsh**it.
Why? Because stupidly sells and who finds it amusing to see a video of normal people talking normal stuff??? Nobody…
The really sad thing is, that there are people who see a video of 3 crazy guys and believe that everybody in Israel is just the same....
I can tell you, that very few people do think in such a way.
Don´t get brainwashed!!!


Aegrotat
No, I think that's a bit extreme to say the Isreali's view the Palestinians in that way. They differ on religious views and what they are entitled to buy I wouldn't say they think they are sub human.


great gonzo the cybernetic ape
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well their are some that do
but not all
most of them just see them as an enemy

and Lebanese Teez
as an Israeli i have heard many chanting "slaughter the Arabs" and seen many graffiti on the walls that's say it
we really hate most of you guys
not me...i love Mimi...so i can't hate Palestinians


Stainless Steel
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I have seen many videos of jews talking really bad about the Palestinians.
I think the jews have gone very racist during these past years.
I don't think this is a good thing for them since the main jew population is living immigrant lives around the world.


moneymaxer
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I think that when you hate Jews so much that you are ready to put a suicide belt on your child just to hurt some Jews, you are less than human.

When you hate Jews so much, that whenever you hear of a Jew dying, you dance on top of your roof, you are less than human.

When you teach your children that Jews are "the enemies of Islam" and that they are the "descendants of apes and pigs", you are less than human.

Jews, on the other hand, are STILL full of hopes that one day they can live in peace right next to you, and that is why most of them do not share this opinion.

After everything that has been going on, I do think that a lot of the Gazans are mentally challenged people. They need a doctor.


tamarindwalk
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I have heard this kind of statement from an Israeli ambassador's wife in reference to Muslims - but she was an old woman.

My feeling is that most younger Israelis have more functional brains and brighter ideas than to lump all members of one nationality or group into a "sub human" category. That kind of thinking would only qualify them to join the Nazi party - in which Hitler and his goons used their twisted imaginations to call all jews "sub human".


Brynn
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Not offically,in other words the government does not take that position. However at a grass-roots level the general population frequently employs dehumanizing terms such as "cockroaches" and "lice" - oddly reminiscent of the terminology employed in Nazi Germany to dehumanize the jews. Such terminology clearly evokes the idea of a sub-species of the human race.


Bahira
They do; their religion demands it. A lot of their postings here on this category reveal this attitude,not only to Palestinians but to the whole world. They believe they are superior beings,a higher life form.


Cool Breeze
Yes. That is hardly a secret. Orthodox jews regard all of humanity as inferior to jews.



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