Do you think Jews are the rightful owners of the land of Israel?

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Annt Hu DeShalit

They certainly are the rightful sovereign power in the Land of Israel.

The State of Israel (which had been called at one point Palestine until it was partitioned twice), is a small (10,000 square miles at present) country at the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea. During its long history, its area, population and ownership varied greatly. The present state of Israel consists of all the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean ocean, bounded by Egypt in the south, Lebanon in the north, and Jordan in the East. The recognized borders of Israel constitute about 78% of this land. The remainder is divided between land occupied by Israel since the 1967 6-day war and the autonomous regions under the control of the Palestinian autonomy. The Gaza strip occupies an additional 141 square miles south of Israel along the sea coast, and is occupied by the Palestinian Authority. Thousands of Israelis had been living there for decades, until they were forced out of their homes in 2005.

Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?

We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag.
When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to benefit from the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before.

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Ma'akum

No. Palestine should be restored to the borders of Mandate Palestine and a government for all Palestinians - Jewish,Muslim and Christian - should be established with strict safeguards against ethnic and religious discrimination. The world cannot justify the continuing existence of a system of government based on ethnic discrimination. The entire concept of so-called "Zionism" has ethnic discrimination at it's core.

Prophecy of Crazy Cat!

Julia, do you even bother to read all these looooooooooong answers by some israeli answerers? Coz i dont! Seems to me they copy-and-pasted from somewhere else (#1 race famous for robbing other people's works). True!

My answer is simple....Palestinians wouldnt mind sharing it with Jews, ONLY IF Jews behave themselves and stop doing what they are doing now: mass-murdering, torturing, bombing, blockade, stealing, etc etc.
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edit to simple simon....
"Eskimo are People. Palestinians are not". LMAO! then what are you trying to tell? That Palestinians are NOT People? or...LESS People? Are you suggesting that Palestinians are a bunch of monkeys and apes?
your point of view is suggesting that you are what? 14 years old or something?

"Israelis have unique language, Palestinians don't".
Hellooo...Palestinians' mother tongue is Arabic, and arabic is very unique enough to me. It is unique enough that you and your israeli family and friends cant even master arabic no matter how hard you try to learn the unique language, and you most probably sound trash when you try to speak the language!

"Many People don't have state". Who are those "many people" you're referring to?? As far as i know, the only people that did not have a state were Jews. Hey, even the most poorest people on earth have had a state (e.g Malawians, Somalians, Kenyans).

NOLA Girl in Texas

The problem my friend is that hardly no one will give you an honest answer without religious and racial biased. If we just looked at this from a right and wrong basic stand point we could conclude that the land was already occupied, and the residents were told to leaved and forced to leave. I visited a friend's house a month ago who is from Gaza but is not allowed to step foot there (she is now an American citizen). She showed me a key her mom had to her house in Jerusalem. Her elderly mother told the story of how she was forced to leave her home. Now regardless of your religion or race, it is clear that this is wrong to force a person from their homeland.

Now if you are a fundamentalist Christian you might say, "the land was promised to the jews therefore the palestinians don't have any rights to the land." I studied the bible and know that when the Jews misbehaved in the desert, they were punished by God.

One misconception is that only Jews lived on that land. This is not true. Many Arab Christians lived on the land and were also pushed out of the region along with the Muslims.

2+2=5

sure they're not,
they are occupying west bank and east jerusalem,
just because they got in in war doesnt mean they own it rightfully,
if that was the case US should be the owner of Iraq!

aprilisnewlife

I don't argue with G-d. He said it does so I believe it.

Teresa (SFECU) -†- pray4revival

Yes absolutely and for a number of reasons, including but not limited to the following:

1.) Historically the land of Israel has belonged to the Jewish people and there has always been a Jewish presence there regardless of which government has taken control of it.

2.) Historically the land of Israel has always been considered by the world as The Jewish Holy Land. It is the ONLY country, containing the ONLY cities that the Jewish people consider Holy, Jerusalem being the Holiest City in all Judaism. The Catholics have the Vatican, the Muslims have Mecca and the Jews have Jerusalem, so they are therefore entitled to have total control over it just as the Catholics and the Muslims have total control over their holiest cites. Can you imagine the threats of war if these groups were told that they needed to share the Vatican or Mecca with some other religious group and allow them to destroy all evidence of their holy sites and replace them with their own? But that is exactly what the Muslims are doing in Jerusalem.

3.) The original Mandate of Palestine was to include the entire country of Jordan, a portion of Syria and a portion of Lebanon. But, just prior to the setting of that mandate the Arabs threatened war with France who held the mandate over the northern part of the territory. Great Britain, wanting desperately to avoid another war this soon after WWII agreed to carve these portions out of the the territory and handed them to the Arabs, who immediately created Trans-Jordan. Then they renamed it Jordan and the day that Israel was declared a sovereign nation, war was declared against the tiny nation by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen who hoped that by combining their forces they could once again conquer Israel and force the Jews into submission to their authority. This was Israel's War of Independence and despite all odds they won that war.

Over the next few decades more than 1,025,000 Jews were expelled from the above named countries and while some were allowed to return to the homeland of their ancestors (Israel) many were not allowed because the Arabs had managed to convince the United Nations to put restrictions on the number of Jews that would be granted the right of return so they were forced to relocate to other countries, including many in Europe and the U.S..

But there have been no less than 4 more wars or proxy wars by forces funded by these countries and Israel has managed to win them all. In the process, many of the enemies of Israel that had migrated there along with the Jews, were offered the right to remain there as citizens. But, in 1967 a great many fled Israel to avoid being caught up in the 6 Day War when their brothers in the Arab nations promised to destroy Israel. But once again, Israel won the war and when the Israeli's rightfully refused to allow these people to return they set up camps and used them as staging grounds to continue fighting to destroy Israel, demanding the right of return that has been refused so many Jews. Israel is the only nation in modern history that has been expected to return land it gained in wars it didn't start and there has never once been anything mentioned about compensation for all the homes, businesses, and property that the Jews were forced to leave behind in Arab countries.

The Arabs got their "Palestine" when they carved Jordan out of the territory. Then they got the Gaza Strip, which is their 2nd "Palestine". But they've still shown no desire to actually turn it into a country. All these demands for another "Palestine" are just further attempts to carve another chunk out what rightfully belongs to Israel.

For more than 60 years now Israel has given up more to try to gain peace with its neighbors than any other country in that time period and the time has come for the world to stand up and tell these Arab nations and their proxy communities in the Gaza Strip, Samaria, and Judea that they need to leave the Nation of Israel and leave that tiny country to govern itself, without violence or the constant threat of wars.

tamarindwalk

No.

♣Shenaniganz♣

yes, yes and yes. end of story.

rundevilrun

No. It belongs to humanity.

Dickran Mgr

If you use history as a criteria then the answer is yes. The remnants of King Solomons Temple still exists in Jerusalem today, You can go & see it....it's the western wall or the Wailing Wall. King Solomon reined 3000 years ago and his father before him..King David! That far back enough for you? Considering there were no Muslims on the planet until the mid to late 600's AD as that is when Mohammad lived....just where do the Muslims get off laying claim to any part of Israel? By conquest! You can also read a Bible if you have one, the Old Testament!

Dr. M.

Simple Simon

Lands belong to people.
That's why Germany belongs to Germans.
That's why France belongs to French.
If to compare Israelis with Palestinians Arabs:
Israelis have unique language, Palestinians don't.
Israelis have unique culture, Palestinians don't.
Israelis have unique faith, Palestinians don't.
Israelis have history in this land. Palestinians don't.
From this point of view, Eskimo are People. Palestinians are not. Many People don't have state. Why Palestinians should have?

@Galhad,
So you say Germany should belong to Muslims and France should belong to Muslims?...

Galahad

No. But it is obvious how enamoured Jews are of the racist concepts of 19th century Europe. Germany for the Germans,France for the French. Well-known slogans to any student of modern racism. This is the concept of the ethnic state; i.e. that nationality is based on ethnicity. Applied to the U.S. this would mean you can't be an American national - a citizen - unless you are ethnically an Anglo-Saxon. The Turko-Germans aren't Germans in these terms; only ethnic Germans can be "true" Germans. Zionism was founded in this era - 1897 - at the zenith of this movement toward the racial or ethnic state; it is clearly stamped in the image of rabid German pan-nationalism with all the usual racialist accoutrements.

zangwill

Galahad,I don't think that guy up there got your point it all but he sure proves you right. These are people who seriously think a country should "belong" exclusively to one single ethno-religious group. I think they're lunatics.

mir miron

The Jewish entitlement to the land of Israel is overtly present throughout the Biblical narratives. This connection originated with the origins of Judaism itself.1

The first interaction between G-d and the first Jew as recorded in the Torah was G-d's instruction to Abraham to travel "to the land that I will show you"2. Once Abraham was there, G-d said "Do you see this land? I will give this to you and your descendants for eternity".3

G-d reaffirmed that promise with Isaac4, and Jacob5. Later, when Jacob's descendants were but mere slaves in Egypt G-d told Moses He would liberate them and lead them to a land, a land He promised to their forefathers.6

The Torah tells us of the borders of the Holy Land, as promised to Abraham. It is described as "…from the river of Egypt until the great river, the River Euphrates".7

The borders of the Biblical Holy Land actually extend beyond the current borders of the State of Israel. Two of Jacob’s children, Dan and Naphtali, are buried in the Lebanese city of Sidon, and the remains of the oldest Jewish synagogue—dating back 2500 years—were uncovered in the Golan Heights. The ancient city of Jericho, which Joshua conquered8 , hosts the very famous Shalom Al Israel synagogue, dating to the First Century. Some parts of the Kingdom of Jordan were settled by two-and-a-half of the Twelve Tribes, and Gaza (which has its own ancient synagogue) is all part of Biblical Israel.9

Scripture thus confirms our connection to the land was only revisited, not invented, in 1948. In 1737 BCE Abraham stood on this very land. G-d promised him that the land would become an eternal family heirloom. It would forever be the homeland of the Jewish People, Abraham’s descendents. It took 465 years for his descendants to become The People of Israel and for the land to take on their name: Eretz Yisroel – The Land of Israel.

Israel has been an integral part of Judaism and Jewish writings for close to four millennium.

The land of Israel and the city of Jerusalem are never mentioned in the Quran—not as “Palestine,” not as “Israel” and not by any other name!

Scripture speaks for itself.

dandyl

YesYes Yes,A common misperception is that all the Jews were forced into the Diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 C.E. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years.

The Jewish people base their claim to the Land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 2) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people; 3) the territory was captured in defensive wars and 4) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham.

Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in the Land of Israel continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.

The Crusaders massacred many Jews during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century — years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement — more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.1 The 78 years of nation-building, beginning in 1870, culminated in the reestablishment of the Jewish State.

Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.
On the other hand, Israel was never an Arab land,The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C.E., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what are now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century C.E., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.

The Hebrews entered the Land of Israel about 1300 B.C.E., living under a tribal confederation until being united under the first monarch, King Saul. The second king, David, established Jerusalem as the capital around 1000 B.C.E. David's son, Solomon built the Temple soon thereafter and consolidated the military, administrative and religious functions of the kingdom. The nation was divided under Solomon's son, with the northern kingdom (Israel) lasting until 722 B.C.E., when the Assyrians destroyed it, and the southern kingdom (Judah) surviving until the Babylonian conquest in 586 B.C.E. The Jewish people enjoyed brief periods of sovereignty afterward before most Jews were finally driven from their homeland in 135 C.E.

Jewish independence in the Land of Israel lasted for more than 400 years. This is much longer than Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States. In fact, if not for foreign conquerors, Israel would be 3,000 years old today.

Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not."

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."

The representative of the Arab High er Committee to the United Nations submitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."8

Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank.

Nobody does Israel any service by proclaiming its 'right to exist.'

Israel's right to exist, like that of the United States, Saudi Arabia and 152 other states, is axiomatic and unreserved. Israel's legitimacy is not suspended in midair awaiting acknowledgement....

There is certainly no other state, big or small, young or old, that would consider mere recognition of its 'right to exist' a favor, or a negotiable concession.”

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i do. it's stated clearly in the bible that the land of israel is given to the jewish people...
the palestinians of today are not the original owners of the land anyway, plus almost no country in the middle east and europe is inhabited by the original people living there. iraqis are not the same babylonians and mesopotamians from those times for example.

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Jews build, Muslims destroy.

They are mandated by the UN . They are a Sovereign nation. Of course they deserve to have control over their tiny piece of desert.
How does that pain the world so?

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Of course! first of all even if there werent as many as there are today, there were Jews living there years before it became Israel. Also, palestinians didnt exist until the idea to start a Jewish state came up. they were just a group of arabs living there. they had a choice to go to either their 22 other countries or stay there. in israel right now there are so many palestinian towns. another point is- the Jews deserve some place to live. if every other religion has huge pieces of land why cant the Jews?? The UN agreed on setting up Israel. Its not like one day the Jews just came in and took it. The UN agreed on it. There was absolutely nothing there before that and now its a magnificant country. The Jews have been very lenient in allowing palestinians to stay and giving them gaza. also, there are many biblical referances that show it belongs to the Jews.

gregoryst3

Of course they do. I'd actually like to see some actual NOT antisemetic idiot say no. Some actual competition would be good. I doubt it will happen though.

Kevin S

No. Land is not owned by people. If this was the case then essentially over 85% OF THE MIDDLE EAST is illegal, America is illegal, canada is illegal and Europe is illegal especially Russia.

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