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Do you think that the current "war" with Israel is the best thing to happen for Hamas in years? |
Politically speaking, has Hamas achieved its goals of:
1. Turning the sentiment of the internatitonal community against Israel.
2. Making sure that the next generation carries on the figtht.
3. Inciting Palestinian hatred for the long term towards Israel.
Do they think that it will be worth it when the dead and injured Gazans are finally totalled up? |
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THE TRUTH IS HOLY
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You ask an interesting question. You also make an excellent point by referring to this purely defensive mission of mercy as a "war" (in quotes). Relative to your question, you must be culturally sensitive to the differences between western civilization and Hamas (and, to an extent, Arab and/or Mohammedan weltanschauung, in general). Hamas does not care about any individual life. That is why they have murdered numerous Arab children and put on a show blaming Israel in order to gain world sympathy. In some ways, they are better at manipulating the press than is Israel. In the end, if Hamas survives, it will have been worth it for the terrorists. |
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Billy First Name B
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when russia sends in the nukes we'll know they have pissed oeople off, but it wouldn't make any difference if israel bomed syria, jordan, iraq or iran as flat as a pancake. israel does what it wants. i've spoken with arabs and you wouldn't believe the torture rape and murder of palestinians by israelis. it's sickening |
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Gamla Joe
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I respectfully disagree
1. Those in the international community that were solid supporters of either side, have not changed, in fact I would argue that many European states are more understanding than they were during the Lebanon fiasco.
2. Hamas was already indoctrinating this wherever it could, it is hard to value which was worse, letting them freely continue to teach hate to the next generation, or allow them to use this war as a catalyst to their cause.
3. Long term hatred will hinge on a final agreement with the Arab world as well as their quality of life. Israel and Egypt have been at peace for 20 years, that has done little to reduce the level of hate. |
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Steel Rain
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No, I think Hamas has made it clear that they are not interested in peace and that they must be destroyed. The biggest mistake the terrorist have made is that they have run out of virgins for the dead. |
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Local Machine
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I dont know bud.
The jews all they want is some mug shots of the Hamazians with their hands behind their back, humiliated, beaten.
The question is what are the chances for that?
Dont you ever forget that these folks play at their home turf.
The jews are scared sh11tless to go on foot inside Gaza town I mean.
So I think I do have the answer for you after all.
If the jews want to catch their foes they must take risks.
Yes, I agree they mite loose soldiers. I'd expect more than 100 - 150 jew army dead soldiers.
Will the jew civilian citizens allow this?
I don't think so. They are so materialistic oriented beings that they would never let some of their kids loose their lives and end this once and for all.
Its a vicious circle dude.
Hey, you got to break some eggs in order to make an omelet, n' est pas?
If you ask me I want to see the Palestinians be free, for once.
I prefer to see a few of them jews dragged all the way to the picturesque city of Hague, just like the Nazis.
Just like the F* Nazis son!
Omelets on me, folks!
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i say only a jewish person would ask this question. The sad reality is that you know the real answer. AND it has nothing to do with any of your points. The real reason for this war is to kill as many Palestinias as possible and take over their land. Bussniess as usual for Israel. |
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Noor
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the Zionists killed til;l now nearly two millions Palestinians since 1948.
wake up.
do you think that this attack was because what Hamas is doing? it is not, it is like each attack the Zionists do against our people since 60 years ago.
to kill Palestinians and more Palestinians.
do you think that if Hamas and all the Palestinians stopped the fighting and the resistance the Zionists will leave them alone?
man, you are dreaming. we are dealing with criminals and theives, the fight wont stop umtill we get Palestine back, and we will.
everyone will die sooner or later, death was never an obstacle infront of us, and never will be.
the Zionists were put in this erea to do this job and they are doing it.
do you think that the west gave Palestine to the Zionists because "God" said so?
they did exactly the same in Lebanon when they invaded it twice.
they bombed civilians in UN facilities and killed hundreds of them in Qana 1 and Qana 2.
we have a serious problem with our memory, it is totally corrupted.
giving Palestine to the Zionists with the help of the UK back then and strongly supported by the USA till now, was not a religious issue and certainly "God" has nothing to do with it.
it was for political reasons, the west has their interests in the middle east and they wanted to protect it.
After the
second world war, considerable care was taken to prevent establishment
of Arab Federation, which would threaten Western oil interests in the
region. It seems that the very creation of the State of Israel was approved
by the Western diplomats to create a wedge in the Arab world.
Ironically, Palestine was not the first choice to be the "home land" for the Zionists in the Zionists own meetings, but eventually, it has to be Palestine.
1904: The Fourth Zionist Congress decided to establish a national home for Jews in
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/rose/4-origin.htm
http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0110/msg00090.html
The Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum, ofcourse it is always in "updating" mode!!
http://www.islamonline.net/English/in_depth/GazaHolocaustMuseum/index.shtml
Qana 1,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o43PO-U7xSM&feature=related
Qana 2
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/219254/killings_at_qana/
Ashraf Abu Rahma was handcuffed, blindfolded, beaten, and eventually shot at close range by a rubber coated steel bullet fired by an Israeli soldier.
http://www.redress.cc/palestine/jcook20080903
Israeli bulldozer driver murders American peace activist
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roshan6040
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it's not worth the death...Hamas will come out of this as freedom fighters to the people of Palestine much like Hezbollah did in their last conflict with Israel. Israel should agree to the 1967 border then the rockets will stop.
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2. yes
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Esc | This is Islam
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When was the international community not against Israel?
What new Palestinian generation did not carry on the fight with Israel?
When did Palestinians not hate Israel?
It just puts us in a state of normalcy right now, doesn't it? The only difference is that international forces are going to be deployed in Gaza to take Hamas's toys away.
2 MILLION Noor? How the f*ck did you come up with that number? There are only 2 or 3 million Palis in the first place. People will believe anything. |
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HopelessZ00
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Worth what? Can we put a price on a dead human? (sick people can of course) If there were a price on humans there would be no occupations, no hunger, no war, sadly some people put a price on their head higher than others. |
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~Sawyer
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Do you see the lust for war in your post? Now do you see why I think Muslims (Hamas is a Muslim based organization) crave death & terror & are a violent religion? |
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Fatima
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I notice the Muslims here all support the doings of Hamas while the Jews support Israel. The problem with Jews and Muslims is not religious; they just don't listen to each other and are biased; it's disturbing that folks who call themselves believers of one God are so blinded by Religious Politics. You guys just don't get it.
What is going on today is not new; Palestine leaders have always evoked disturbance to get sympathy; Hamas is a terrorist group backed by Iran whose aim is to create confusion between the Jews and Palestinians...it's no secret. The Jews are no angels but through the years they have tried to make peace only to see it shattered by terrorist acts; the same happened during the reign of Arafat. This behavior is a custom that can be traced to Arabia way before the days of the Prophet Mohammad...It's not Religious and Muslims who support this are ignorant of the true Muslim doctrines.
Yes; Hamas has obtained it's objective; Palestinians are dying by the Hundreds and the world is blaming Israel. Hamas doesn't care how many innocent are killed; they only care about winning against all odds...and they have won; while they blame the US for supporting Israel, US citizens are demonstrating against the killing of Palestinians.
Personally, I think the Palestinians would welcome peace but Hamas won't allow this; the only hope is for the Palestinians to rise up as one and get rid of the monster in their midst...Hamas is the problem; the people deserve better leadership. If you are a true Muslim who think that Islam is a religion of peace, you will agree. |
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Annt Hu DeShalit
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The best solution is the total destruction of the Hamas Muslim terror organization.
Gazans who wish to live in peace alongside Israel should be encouraged to do so. All terrorists should be killed in battle or taken prisoner and released only after they reach the age of 80.
The Muslims should renounce terror and revise the Quran to eliminate the anti-Jewish and anti-Christian suras.
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Samsooma The Madruba
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1. Turning the sentiment of the INTERNATIONAL community against Israel.
The international community knows the truth, the rif raf doesn't
2. Making sure that the next generation carries on the figtht.(fight)
Ham-a-SS is hated in the Gaza, they must follow or they are dead.
3. Inciting Palestinian hatred for the long term towards Israel.
Peace was on it's way, Ham-a-SS messed it up. |
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Lady Lulu
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I have a different take on this actually. I think the current war has been lost by Israel, as it has lost all or caused all of these things due to it's war crimes in Gaza. Even a top Israeli government official said that this action has made Israel less secure, and probably the US too in my own opinion, and possibly the UK to a lesser extent.
I also fail to see how Hamas could have a goal to achieving these things when they were the ones who were attacked. It is just common sense. You cant just say I have these goals in mind, in case were are attacked this is my wish list.
@Fatima- I agree with your post to a certain extent, except to say that the Palestinian and Israeli PEOPLE want peace. Israels government and Hamas however do not. They are both like spoilt children who want their own way, and don't care who gets hurt during the ensuing temper tantrum. Neither one is willing to compromise or listen and because of this, peace will never happen. I don't think matters will change regardless of who is in charge of Palestine, unless they are willing to give in all the way to Israeli demands, and even then I don't think it will be good enough. |
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Beautiful Sunset
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The jews are losing every day Arih.
Don't you see this?
At least you should not ask a question like this.
You already know the answer
bye bye |
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