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Yo, yo, yo, hold your horsies missy!
Maybe I am a bit shaken here, but surely not mistaken.
The Palestinians have tried everything until now.
Do you know that all the broken truces fall on the jews? Hmmm?
There wasn't almost not even one cease fire since 1968 that was not broken by our friendly and fun loving jews.
Oh come on now! There is not even the word "Please" in their dictionaries.Not the palestinian dics. The other ones I mean.
You know.
bad choice if you ask me.
But what should I know?
I am just the town idiot here. Bells, whistles ....the whole "package". Yep ! That's me

Gee, you wrote Israel supporters only.
I answered the question. Is that bad?
Punish me.
I've been a naughty person today anyway. heh heh heh!
OMG!! It's I.00 am Got to sign off. Hardcore Beauty sleep, ok?

zangwill

If the second Intifada had been like the first intifada a Palestinian state would very likely have resulted. Violence only begets more violence. Terrorism seems - I say only seems - to justify fascism. Most people react that way. The brutality of the second intifada was generally regarded as justifying the brutality of the Israeli reaction which in turn blurred the main issue to the point of media extinction,namely that the Palestinians were led to expect statehood by 2000 and this obviously didn't happen under Netanyahu and Barak didn't exactly spark much hope either. Then Israel's Grendel - Sharon - found a way to spark something else altogether and then you have the Days of Rage. Palestinians don't need a foreign example,all they need to do is emulate the spirit of '89. That's what got them Oslo and a second and similar effort would have gotten them a state. Meanwhile all this has pushed the Israeli electorate far,far to the right. Which isn't good for a whole lot of reasons but among other things it creates an impossible situation in America: Israel depends on the U.S. as it's primary support but most American Jews are ultra-liberal including me and we definitely don't like a right-wing Israel and we definitely realize that denying statehood to the Palestinians is analogous to the British denying Jewish immigration in the late 40's to prevent creation of a Jewish state. We got ours,they should get theirs. But if the violence we directed toward the British had reached such levels as what we saw in the West Bank in 2000-2004 I doubt the UN would have given us a Jewish state; I think that's very unlikely. Yes,if they refrain from violent protest and terrorism I would think they could achieve statehood,to which I have no objection whatsoever. I should also add however that it's kind of hypocritical to demand of them promises of no-more-violence when the Israeli Air Force is pounding them into a pile of gore. Swearing off violence has to be reciprocal. States have their own forms of terrorism,let's not forget that. It's called "counter-terrorism" and that's about the size of it,ironically - the flip side of the same coin.

Rich N

None-violence alone will not do with the Israeli hard-core right-wing zionist. Both Arm struggle and None-violence must be used to convince all the Israeli that occupying other people by force is losing policy in the past and now and has no future.

Warren S

If the Palestinians put down their weapons of terror today and promised never to use them again then most Israel supporters would gladly support a peaceful Palestinian State in Gaza and the West Bank to exist alongside the State of Israel. The need for any boycott does not exist. The ball is in the Palestinian court.

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The proper quote is "if the Arabs put down their arms", most Islamic states don't recognize Israel, nor do they promote peace, unless every nation under Islamic control recognize Israel, there can be no future for peace.

There is no "occupation", Israel has won land in defensive wars from Arab aggression, West Bank was under Jordanian occupation before, then British occupation, then it was under the defeated Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years.

Israel left Gaza for peace, terrorists turned it into a rocket pad and have fired thousands of rockets since, Israel offered most of West Bank for peace to Abbas, a Holocaust denier, and he rejected it, you can view Fatah, PLO newspapers, TV and forums and see them celebrating terrorist attacks on Israel, still promoting a world without Israel.

Abbas has many faces, like Arafat.

Watch this 62min video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2533702461706761547

chinacat sunflower

My, my...that IS hypothetical, isn't it?
If the Palestinians were to lay down their arms, as you say, the Israeli government would merely run them all over with bulldozers. Does anybody seriously believe that if the Palis hadn't maintained an armed (if one can call it that) struggle over the years that they wouldn't have been ethnic-cleansed into oblivion?
Get real!
Oh dear, looks like I've been naughty too...but not as naughty as Sunset :p

if the palestinians put their arms down, there would be no need for a non-violent resistance, and no need to boycott anyone. there would be peace that day.

As long as Israel lives Islam is a lie.
If you take away their guns they will attack you with their knives.
Not about to happen.

Kevin S

First of all by definition it is not an occupation. If you choose to call it an occupation you would need to realize that when Jordan and Egypt 'occupied' these lands, they were an OCCUPATION as well. A better word would simply be oppression or "How can we restore Palestinian sovereignty?"

Netenyahu (although someone I do not know much about nor like said and was honest for the first time:

No palestinian state will be created at the expense of Israel. Meaning that no state will be created that will serve as a proxy. Israel does not mind a palestinian state becoming strong. It is paranoid that if it indeed becomes soverign that Iran will take over its gov't (i.e. Syria and Lebanon (to a certain extent of course)) it will no longer be a sovereign state and will be hostile towards Israel.

Settlements are increasing mostly in Hebron and near the borders. These settlements ironically are for a lasting peace solution, what does this mean? Israeli arabs who live near the border as Israelis will have their land given over to the palestinian state. Israelis who live near the border (settlements) will be given over to the Israeli state to which the palestinian arab leaders agree. Hebron will be under palestinian rule but many religious Jews want to live there. They don't care if they live under israeli rule or arab rule, they just want to live their peacefully. Unfortunately, they put a lot of radical religious jews there who believe only Jews should live there.

Edit to asker:

As a muslim proxy state, but thats contradictory because it means no Jews are allowed to live there. Hebron was the first ethnically cleansed village prior to 1948, which btw started a lot of this mess. For instance, jordan is a palesitnian muslim state and jews are not allowed to live there. Israel is a Jewish israeli state and arabs are allowed to live.

Palestine ended their "boycutt" of Israel 2 decades ago.

If they lay down their arms today there would be peace.

If israel laid down its arms today there would be a slaughter and no more Israel (and the world left with 6 million less Jews.. again).

That is the saying.

moneymaxer

If the Palestinians put their arms down, there will not be a need to boycott Israel. There will not be any violence. THAT is what you fail to realize.

Arabs are not interested in peace, and that's why what you are saying will never happen. Arabs are interested in a Jew-free Middle East.

h'ayim tovim Y'all

No true muslim will ever "put down their arms" and make an honest peace with Israel... or any other non-islamic nation... ALL muslims must obey the so-called god allah absolutely and without exception... and allah decrees that islam is to dominate the world and that ALL who do not submit to islam are to be killed.

those of islam will NEVER make peace with the rest of the world until they dominate and exterminate all who do not submit to islam.

There is no such thing as a "moderate" muslim, and there is no such thing as a modern islam... there are true muslims and there are those who sit back and wait for others to do the dirty work and do only what they must to keep their heads... islam will deal with those who are cowards among them very harshly should they actually gain control...

No one truly of The Nation of Israel( all true Jews) will ever submit to islam... and no one of The True Church(those of The True Christian Faith) will either...

I will NEVER SUBMIT to islam

Sabrina

OMG!
I can't stand how these people can support these so called "palestinians" so blindly!!!!!
Yes of course i feel bad for the innocent children getting killed and being used as human shields. However!, the gaza strip is being run by monsters (Hamas) of whom they find the need to kill all of those who do not follow in their footsteps! They just kill to kill with no logic or reason! I'm sick of the occupation BS!!! SERIOUSLY!! GIVE ME A BREAK!! No one "occupied" the land!!!! the Jews recieved the land of Israel fair and square!! The Jews were kicked out of other countries and so they wanted to create a Jewish state to stay out of YOUR WAY! (BTW , there were never any palestinians in Israel at the time of the declaration! geez!) Now there are people who want to kick us out of our own land!! K lets think about this for a sec,...you didn't want us in ur country, now that we have our own piece of TINY land, that was promised to us, you still want to kick us out!!! And where do you plan to bring us to? Your country? DOUBT THAT! So just think about it!

PaperbackWriter JPA

Why would I ever boycott Israel?

She's the ONLY country that has EVER tried to help the Palestinians develop a state of their own. And had the Palestinians accepted what was being offered, either at Camp David or Taba, 2000 and 2001, the Palestinians today would have:
- east Jerusalem as their capital
- 100% of Gaza (which they do have now, as it happens)
- 97% of the West Bank

The Palestinians were offered all of this - but rejected it, because in return Israel asked them to stop the terrorism.

Gaza is not 'occupied' YET the terrorism from there has increased. How do you explain that one, then?

kismet

I support Israel, and I know Israel wants peace; why would I consider a BOYCOTT of my own country????
You need to think of this old saying for a moment:
"If the Arabs will put down their weapons, there will be peace. If the Israelis will put down there weapons, there would be no Israel."

Zoom Zoom

Israel will do all it can for peace.
What occupation, Israel is out of Gaza, Livni said when there is peace settlers will leave the west bank, when will the Palestinians lay down their weapons.

Arieh

Non-violent resistance is not in the Arab vocabulary. Even if it was, the Arab nations and Iran that control the Palestinians wouldn't let them. Israel also would consider non-violent resistance as a sign of weakness. Nice try though.

Jim E

I don't really understand you to be honest. But non-violence has never come into practice with these guys........... So on that basis, no your theory probably will not work.

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