How many of you are with the Israeli-Palestinian peace deal and how many of you are against it?

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mark

As a Fatah supporter I will not Miss the chance to object to you calling Hamas bad names.
But also as Fatah supporter I have to say there is no political party on either side the Israelis and Palestinians have a logical peace plan for both people like Fatah long run peace vision.
We all know at end we will get tired of wars and no peace situation. The 2 states peace plan is a temporary solution it may work 20 years and so but it will not make lasting peace for both people.
There are 2 views on the Israeli side which lead to more wars and more killing of both people. Those who call for 2 states on the Israeli side are basing their vision on racial society separate but not equal. They call for a weak and useless Palestinian state easy to control and easy reoccupy. The other point of view on the Israeli side, is based no Palestinian state what so ever and keep occupying the Palestinians forever and they have no peace plans for no one and Israel must have a strong army and ready for wars for the end of time.
On the Palestinian side there are point of views too. Peace can only be achieved by negotiation step by step to create one democratic state for all where all citizens have equal rights based on a written constitution like most nations of the world.
The other point of view is based on the Israel strategy of peace. Israel will never give the Palestinians anything and Israel is based on war and the only language the Israeli understand is the language of war.
Between the Israeli and Palestinian point of views I find Fatah peace plan for a one state solution is the most logical resolution at the end.
Why waste time and lives and money if we know at end we going to live together in that very small country.

Gam Zo Letovah

As the Arabs know very well, and the liberals do not perceive, the formation of another Arab state on land that is now Israel is the beginning of the end of the Jewish State.

Look what happened in Gaza. The Israelis pulled out and Hamas established a terrorist state, with entry for Al Qaida. Or in Lebanon, for that matter, when Israel pulled out some seven years ago.

The Palestinians are not a people, but rather part of the Arab nation. The Arabs have 22 states and the Jews have one very small state.

The process you refer to is not a peace process, but rather a PIECE process.

Mr. X

the moment the palestinians get serious and address israel's security concerns, they will have a state.

MikeInRI

I have always been for a two state solution.

Good Luck!!!

Gamla Joe

If it would work then fine, but I am convinced that it will fail because of the fundamental conflicting needs of both sides.

Israel demands security, and the Palestinians demand a viable state.

Those two demands are not compatible. A Palestinian state cannot give Israel security, and Israeli security will not create a Palestinian state.

the two state solution is dead, lets move on and work with other alternatives.

paperback_writer

I find it rather odd that you keep talking about peace, given that in an answer yesterday you stated, 'I love Hezbollah. Hezbollah are good people.'

You love terrorists, but you want peace? I find this highly strange.

LEMON DREAM - you tell'em, girl! :)

Janice

I am against the peace deal because Israel is giving up their land and still there is no peace. Israel could give up the whole state to the Palestinians and, Israelis would still be hunted down. The giving up of land is an excuse for the Terror groups like Hezboolah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. to attack Israel and to pretend to have just cause for it.

" since 1948 we have been demanding the return to their homes. But we ourselves are the one who encouraged them to leave and appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return." Haled al Azm, SYrian Prime minister 1948-1949.

"No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel." Khartoum Resolution.

"You understand that we plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion"....Yassar Arafat

Jdriven

I think your faith in a peace deal is a waste of time. It just isn't going to happen. Even if they sign papers giving away God's land, Peace shall not reign with the Muslims.
I wonder how many of the Palestinians actually grew up in Gaza, and how many were sent there to make sure the troubles last.

Bosco

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians. As to the the jewish presence there,we've seen enough brutality since the british flooded the country with them after 1921 to know it was a bad mistake. There will be trouble as long as they are there. Saying they can claim after 2000 years a so-called "ancestral homeland" on the basis of extremely remote descent from the ancient hebrews is like saying the irish - the Celts - have a right to reclaim what is now Austria and the Czech Republic since 2000 years ago that was their "ancestral homeland". The jews need to be removed. Nothing else will bring peace,simply because of their despicable brutality. Look at the bombing of Quana in 1996 and ask how that kind of carnage compares to the occasional suicide bomber. Somehow if you blow up 200 people from an aircraft it's ok,but if you do it as an individual it's terrorism,even though the casualties are far lower.
Anybody ever hear of what is called State Terrorism? It's much worse than the other kind,free-lance or whatever you want to call it. This so-called jewish government or state is simply an agglomeration of jewish terrorist organizations - the irgun,the Stern gang,etc.

Mr. Pitiful (was Gonzo)

I am with it.
why?
why not?
it the best way to end this stupid conflict

moneymaker

Dear Mimi, how I wish that the majority of the Palestinian people thought the way you do. There would be peace by default, we would have our differences, but we would argue at the dinner table over each other's houses.
But the reality is different.
The reality is that most Palestinians were brainwashed into the idea that Jews have no business being in the area. Period.
Your people, dear Mimi, don't want my people to live next to them. Your people hate the fact that my people actually succeeded in building a strong state, and a victorious army. Your people make up myths (like the one that we "stole" their land), and immediately believe them to be true. Your people poison the hearts and minds of their children with hatred for my people. Your people justify the murder of my people's children by saying that "those children will become Zionist soldiers one day". Your people celebrate every death of my people like they just witnessed a miracle.
My people are no piece of cake either, but there is no comparing, Mimi.

You, you my dear Mimi, would be executed by Hamas for your opinion, for your wish to make peace with us.

When will peace happen? When Palestinians are allowed to voice their pro-Israeli opinions and not get murdered for it. When hatred stops being taught in every mosque. When Palestinians themselves will not be terrified of Hamas, and would be willing to stand up to it, and say "enough with the f*cking Kassams! It damages us more then it damages them!" When Palestinians understand that a strong and friendly state of Israel is a benefit to them, and not a threat!...
I don't even know where I am going with this... I want there to be peace, I really do... But it is just so unrealistic, that to me, transfer of majority of Arabs to Jordan, looks like the most humane option. â€¦Humane for Arabs as well as Jews.

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LemonDream, bullseye! (whispering: you know, I was cooking something yesterday, and it needed a lemon juice. I took a lemon, held it, and thought of you............ shhhhhhhhh....... )

Darkprince

the peace will never last....jews will break it whenver they get the chance....and I hope that the Hamas DOES get exterminated...they are as bad as those jews who kill muslims

Whoo!

"Palestinians" are Arabs. And I'm against it. There are TONS of Muslim countries or Arab countries and no, they just have to have thier way, right??

angela h

No free land give away jeez... thats exactly how the Zionist got the land in the first place... Brits gave it to them even though people were living there.. (not saying jews since jews are not all zionist and all zionist are not jews) But most Zionists don't consider palestinians to exist, just consider them trash to shove to the side until they can figure out how to take a little more and a little more.. Jews (real jews) got along perfectly fine with the muslims and christians before the europeans with their white man's attitude came and mucked it up,,, Look at the stats if you are fair and see who is killing and torturing who... I've been in Gaza and lived with zanana , sonic booms, never knowing where the next bomb is going to land.. constant sounds of shelling, flares over the beach, no electricity, no water at times.. running out of candles, kids screaming in the night, knowing you can't even get out and there is no where to go!! I was just visiting too. I went to get my kids registered and got stuck for 3 and a half months!! This is not about religion just for one second put yourself in the other persons shoes!!! What would YOU do if you were in their position? It easy to just blame one side and say its all your fault!! Its their fault for being born palestinian.. but for the grace of god go YOU!!

If the Palestinians decided to suddenly convert to Judaism, technicaly Israel would just let them all become citizens and then the issue is over.

kokopelli

One must also realize and accept the historical truth that the problem was not caused by the Palestinians, but by the Zionists some 70 years ago.

EU Citizen

A big argument for the creation of Israel is that jews could not live under other countries because there status there safety could not be guranted so a jewish state was the logical soloution.

Quite ironically this is now the case with Palesinians their status in host countries, like Lebanon the UAE and saudia arabia for example cannot be guranteed their rights cannot be guranteed they are treaty as garbage through and through, no jobs,no citizenship no nothing

You should know this above all Mimi.

Thats why we need a Palestinian state because palestinians are not guranteed their rights almost no where else.

Terrorism like with the Qassam rockets for example is a direct result from heavy
Israeli occupation for generations.

You expect the Palestinian people in the west bank to roll over on their stomachs and beg for more when Israel continues a military occupation that is supplemented by settlements and resource stealing?

Terrorism as you call it is the natural reaction to opression.

The Israelis have very good techonology and the palestinians have just AK 47's.

Common sense and military strategy would dictate that is not a fair fight so the next step is suicide bombings.

Israel has reaped "terrorism" on itelf.

You wan to talk?

get the *** out of the west bank.

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