Hypothetically: if we had the ability to remove ALL of the Israeli and Palestinian politicians, and it was?

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kismet

I think women would do a better job; if we were to put women in charge of both sides, I think they would reach a workable compromise.

Arieh

Your question is not consistent with your posts, but I'll answer it anyway.

About 15 years ago, my Palestinian friends and I got together and discussed the issues that faced us in order to attain peace. In the end, we all agreed that if we were the leaders of our respective nations, there would have been peace 20 years previous.

Steven the young Professional

A while ago the Jewish chronicle reported on a Karate school in a town in Israel with a mixed Jewish and Muslim Arab population.

As well as teaching self defence, the school also taught methods of defusing confrontations non aggressively.

This karate school brought both communities together.

Maybe there is a lesson in this to be learned?.

arthvader

I have met both Jews and Muslims who are the salt of the earth. I'm sure, after a little apprehension, they would learn to get along just fine. But for far too many, the things they have experienced (more on the Israeli side) and the things they have been told (more on the Arabic/Jordanian/Syrian side) have gone too far to be let go easily.

And on both sides, yes, there has been murder and attempted murder, though I don't recall murder of Muslims ever being an official Israeli policy.

PloniAlmoni

nope

the reality is politics here is not like western politics and you cannot compare. The palestinian school system only recently removed the "protocols of the elders of zion" from their required school reading (it is optional now) it is the most antisemitic book in history besides mien Kampt and has been proven to be a hoax and fake. If there was no government thus no military Israel would be destroyed by lynching mobs just like what was going on through all the Jewish cities in the 30's. When Palestinians start to teach love instead of hate to their children and want their own children to live instead of dying as suicide bombers killing Jewish children, then politicians or civilians will be able to make peace but not until the hate mongering is finished.

Everard G

I think the tenets of Islam would still seep into, and dirty, the possibilities.

Here are just a few quotes from Koran from a list of over 500 ...

Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6

Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10

Allah has blinded the disbelievers. 2:17-18

A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 2:90

Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66

If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88

The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98
~

Sonny

I hope the Pope does not get caught in the crossfire when he comes to visit the Holy Lands. With that white beanie he wears, some Hammas ragamuffin might take a shot at him.

SJC

I think so!!!

It seems to me that too often politicians have their own agenda.

*ADDED* I agree with Rich, u should be the Israeli leader!

On an unrelated note, I closed my Q before I noticed that you starred it, sorry!!

what'snext

Good question. There are lots of reports of ordinary Israelis and Palestinians getting along together, especially with the young people.

We hear lots of lovely things that happen at grass roots level. One of our Israeli friends was in some incident a few years ago where the neighbourhood required to be given food supplies. Our friend J. collected his after queueing for a very long time, hauled it home and then saw - as he described - his enemy - looking so thin, and sad as he hadn't been able to get one.. You can guess what he did? Yes J. shared his food. He described the struggle he had to do it but felt it was so worthwhile.

We hear of so many struggles like this and there must be so many that we never hear about.

However, I'm not sure, whether genuine and lasting peace would be there as there is an ancient hatred that won't seem to go away and that tiny piece of Land is so coveted!

Not sure Paperback! ("Peace, peace, when there is no peace").

Every blessing!

The First Dragon

I think the extremists should definitely be left out of it, but I don't know how to accomplish that!
As for leaving the politicians out, I think that would be a mistake, aside from the extremists. Chaos and disorder are even more terrible than tyranny. That is why people will accept the Taliban; at least it brings some order.
There needs to be a government, and government requires politicians.

Lady LULU

Yes, absolutely I think so. I wish that could happen, because I think things might just get sorted out very quickly. People just want to have a peaceful life, and enjoy it.
I know this would work, I have a few Jewish friends and we get along just fine. Even though I am Christian and they are Jewish it doesn't bother us at all. In fact, one of my best friends I ever had in my life was Jewish but unfortunately he passed away suddenly. We were so similar in how we thought about things, and he was very sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. So, because of these experiences I have had of being pro-Palestinian and Christian, with a Muslim family (very confusing I know, and believe me, if you knew the rest you would be even more confused), with friends who are Jewish, and who all get along fine I am sure this scenario is quite feasible.

unforsakenme

Uhm, it would be easier, I'll say that.
But even the ordinary Palestinians hate Israel, for they are the ones that have lost family members and friends.
But, it's more plausible yes, if both extremist are left out (Or Jailed c; ).

Moi!

I think the politicians are much more moderate than the people.

Rich N

You will be the leader on the israeli side I hope. You have debated the issue for years and you know both sides points views.

sylvia c

I dont think so, especially if it consists of women, as women are known to be catty, easily distracted, will fall more than a man for a tale of woe, I believe that if the two parties want stability in the middle east, both sides have to be sincere and not tell lies to one another. No friendships can be made on lies and subterfuge.

mattapan26

Possibly. Prior to the first Intifada, I think there was a significant amount of cross-border commerce, mostly Israelis patronizing Palestinian establishments and Palestinians working in Israel. Would it be naive to believe that the individuals on both sides would get along and help build each other's economies? In time, maybe the vilification and stereotyping in media and schools would end and a new generation would grow up treating all of their countrymen as equals--and as fellow countrymen and not, for example, as Zionist invaders. It seems unlikely, but in answer to your question, possibly.

hannahmommy

No, the Palestinians do not want the Jewish people in the middle East. Jewish people are the only group besides Native Americans without a homeland.

Wiseguy

I agree with a Arieh. From your previous questions and answers, you come across as a racial supremacist, and a hard core zionist.

To answer your question; yes, peace would be possible. The "leaders" have their own political agendas. Ordinary people are more interested in peace since they care about the prospertiy of their children etc. The politicans are well protected within their political elite to give two hooots, its the same in every country.

KNAYA Argentino Errante

In spite of the rabid violence in the streets, a proven majority between the Israelis and the Palestinians exists whom a pacific solution to the conflict loves. Both nations are exhausted and feel that they have gone too much far. All know what the peace demands and which are the prices that must be pleased; the historical solution will be probably similar to the ill-fated agreements of Taba, in February of 2001.
The peace needs to include the acceptance of common people, and this only can happen if they are it jeopardize with the peace process. Besides the safety measures that the Israelis need to see implemented by the Palestine Authority, the Palestinians must have to extend their good will like Nation towards the Israeli average. This requires a exhibition mechanism, is not enough with having the good hidden will in the hearts. The Palestinians need to see real measures they convince that them that this is not another attempt to absorb the pressure international soon to turn aside the process at the end of the way. A clear Israeli public voice that it arrives at ears from the Palestinians will contribute to the construction of so needed confidence Palestinian in this the third conjuncture the peace.

^ PaLo ^

Definetly.

But they say that people change when they are in power, what do you think?

Walter B

Indubitedly! (Dick van Dyke as bert in "Mary Poppins). Actually, and all movie quotes aside, I do believe the people would do a better job. The average, avery day Joe wants peace, no matter where he lives or what his beliefs are.

wider scope

Not for at least a generation of generations.

Photo Finnish

My major problem is with the Jew politicians. You see they have a country with a status quo, so they have a tenfold responsibility to peace.
The Palestinians are on a land that has no state definition, w/o regular army, ministries, stock market etc.
Your question does not stand logic since you are comparing apples with oranges.
Let me unblock you too! (Left click) there you go, you are free now!

RIGHTS???

If someone with the best interest of both sides, made Israel and Palestine one nation with equal rights as a free county. To buy land, sell, work, own businesses. IF there were no discrimination. No wall separating Israelis from Palestinians, and Palestinians from Palestinians.
The only borders should be that separating the other Arab counties from Israel. There for there will be no need for a two state solution. It would take some other country to occupy Israel for this to happen without blood shed. Well babysat for a season. If all walls separating the Palestinians from Israelis were taken down, they Palestinian would have not reason to fight.

Private

Ah bless, what a wonderful world of rainbows and pretty pink ponies that some people live in.

For your information,Israels leaders are democratically elected and therefore carry the popular will of the people.

There are no extremists on the Israeli side.
In fact Gaza was awarded to the arabs as a unilateral gesture of peace in 2005.
The arabs allowed the developed infrastructure and life supporting agricultural systems to fall into ruin.Now they depend upon foreign aid whilst they bleat of hardship.
Israel complain that they have no partner for peace.As they extend the hand of friendship they are repelled with indiscriminate rocket fire .
As long as naive and uneducated westerners swallow down cupfulls of leftist propaganda that fools them into believing that Israel somehow occupies "stolen land" then Hamas will continue with the terrorism whilst the western support remains.
The route forward is for the west to educate themselves with the true history of the Jewish settlement and adjust their allegiances.From such a point,international support will be in a position to drive the terrorists from Gaza.Only then will partners for peace emerge.

What makes the questioner feel that the BNP is racist?
Nationalism does not equate to racism.The only people who suggest that it does are the major parties that are threatened by them and those that believe the rhetoric of the major parties.

The BNP does not consider Jews to be a threat to our country.In fact there are many Jewish members.

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