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If Israel is "ethnic cleansing," why are there still Muslims in Israel after 60 years of Israel's existence? |
Additional Details OK Shaddai, why are there still Muslims in the West Bank and Gaza?
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Tequila
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It's simple. The alleged "ethnic cleansing" of Muslims is another myth promulgated by the truth-challenged*. As Amy W noted, the Muslim population growth in Israel is unusually high. In fact, their incremental growth in Israel is far greater than elsewhere in the region. The number of Muslims here actually doubles every 2 decades. http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?15856S
The 3.4% average yearly Arab population growth rate in Israel is quite high in international terms. It is even higher than in neighboring Arab countries (for example: 2.8% in Syria and Jordan
& 2.1% in Egypt). Simultaneously, recent PA statistics have proved to be "out of sync with the Arab growth rate in . . . Arab countries. It was the only society in the world reporting a high life expectancy at the same time as an astronomically high birth rate." http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief004-19.htm How does that unique claim by the PA jive with any "ethnic cleansing"?
And, by-the-way, Israel is the only country in this region where the local Christian population has increased as well!
[*In non- PC terminology, they're called liars.] The purpose served by demonizing Israel: http://76.12.0.56/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid=1 |
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mark
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Look you sound like the holocaust deniers when the say" if Hitler killed 6 million Jews how come we have many Jews around." |
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biged
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The only thing they are cleansing out is the people who want to destroy them |
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Qazy Wabit
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Because it would not be good PR for the zionist to wipe them out in one big swoop. They systematically try to destroy them instead .
There is no such thing as Israel. |
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Morgan S
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Howdy Ms. Miche..I've looked at this question for 3-4 days..My first reaction was 'what an absurd idea'..I met many Arabs during my visit to Israel..West Bank and otherwise..None of them ever gave me the impression that they were under any sort of 'evil' pressure..I had coffee and pastries with an Arab in Ramallah at his home.. Then had dinner at a very fine restaurant with him and his wife..He was one of the most cordial and content gentlemen I have met in all of my travels..No mention of fear..hate..worry..and certainly spoke of no disrespect for the Israelis..In fact, he worked for the State of Israel as a Professor..He considered himself an Israeli and was proud of it..I saw NO evidence of ethnic prejudice..and I am certain statistics will prove this 'concept' to be more 'Pally-wood' Voodoo. |
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Duke of Tudor
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Because there is no such thing as "ethnic cleansing". Muslim Israeli Arabs have equal civil rights with their Jewish counterparts. The Palestinian Arabs, especially in Gaza, suffer because they harbor militants who openly deny Israel's right to exist and their fellow Muslim Arab governments use them as political pawns to fan anti-Israel and anti-Jewish sentiments across the Muslim world. |
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Rabbi for you
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Do you mean that if there are still Muslims alive in Israel, then Israel is not practicing ethnic cleansing against Palestinians?. It is like saying Hitler did not practice ethnic cleansing against the Jews for not killing them all. |
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Cool Breeze
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In Israel itself,there are very few,principally Christians around Haifa; they are largely unmolested because to do so would alienate American opinion. if you are talking the Palestinians in the WB and Gaza,they are not in Israel; no nation recognizes these areas as part of Israel,including the U.S. There aer in fact very few Palestinians in the former Palestine Mandate. |
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Isis
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the only place where there are still arab muslims and christians left are in west bank and gaza. |
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dandyl
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very good question.the answer is that the muslim living in israel have a very high std of living, much higher then in most muslim countries.
Israel is one of the most open societies in the world. Out of a population of 6.7 million, about 1.3 million — 20 percent of the population — are non-Jews (approximately 1.1 million Muslims, 130,000 Christians and 100,000 Druze).1
Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; in fact, it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote. Arabs currently hold 8 seats in the 120-seat Knesset. Israeli Arabs have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel's ambassador to Finland and the current deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. Oscar Abu Razaq was appointed Director General of the Ministry of Interior, the first Arab citizen to become chief executive of a key government ministry. Ariel Sharon's original cabinet included the first Arab minister, Salah Tarif, a Druze who served as a minister without portfolio. An Arab is also a Supreme Court justice.
Arabic, like Hebrew, is an official language in Israel. More than 300,000 Arab children attend Israeli schools. At the time of Israel's founding, there was one Arab high school in the country. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools.
In 2002, the Israeli Supreme Court also ruled that the government cannot allocate land based on religion or ethnicity, and may not prevent Arab citizens from living wherever they choose.2a
The sole legal distinction between Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel is that the latter are not required to serve in the Israeli army. This is to spare Arab citizens the need to take up arms against their brethren. Nevertheless, Bedouins have served in paratroop units and other Arabs have volunteered for military duty. Compulsory military service is applied to the Druze and Circassian communities at their own request.
Some economic and social gaps between Israeli Jews and Arabs result from the latter not serving in the military. Veterans qualify for many benefits not available to non-veterans. Moreover, the army aids in the socialization process.
On the other hand, Arabs do have an advantage in obtaining some jobs during the years Israelis are in the military. In addition, industries like construction and trucking have come to be dominated by Israeli Arabs.
Although Israeli Arabs have occasionally been involved in terrorist activities, they have generally behaved as loyal citizens. During the 1967, 1973 and 1982 wars, none engaged in any acts of sabotage or disloyalty. Sometimes, in fact, Arabs volunteered to take over civilian functions for reservists. During the outbreak of violence in the territories that began in September 2000, Israeli Arabs for the first time engaged in widespread protests with some violence.
The United States has been independent for almost 230 years and still has not integrated all of its diverse communities. Even today, 60 years after civil rights legislation was adopted, discrimination has not been eradicated. It should not be surprising that Israel has not solved all of its social problems in only 60 years. |
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Because apparently we are terrible at it. Not only are there Muslims in Israel, they like it here, too. But someone will say that is because we brainwashed them.
I doubt that the ones on this forum who use the term 'ethnic cleansing' actually understand what it means. |
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Jeff J
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Because, technically Israel is split in two nations by religion, so it will never be cleansed. |
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am
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There are Muslims serving in the Israeli military, Muslim police officers and polticians. |
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miriam_eesti
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ethnic cleansing?? i am glad to see that it is stated in quotes, but its pretty ridiculous. israel tries to protect its country and bring 'peace' at the same time, blocking terrorists from entering israel proper on the one hand, then giving concessions to them on the other in the hopes that they will be satisfied and leave israel alone. some sort of peaceful coexistence, seen perhaps only in the minds of olmert, bush, and crazy leftists.
the rest see the bigger picture and wish the anti-israelis would see it as well. |
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C.J.
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Did they not say the same thing about Hitler and the Holocaust?
Just because you cannot see over the Apartheid Wall or the Blockade in Gaza, does not excuse the fact of what is happening.
They are not killing them in the fast rate that Hitler did, but one family at a time and a few people denied health care and water in their own homeland will all add up on their murder list. Allah sees this all and our ancestor Abraham would be appalled at what they are a doing.
There will always be Muslims in Palestine because no one would completely abandon their homeland. Unless Israel has this racist ideology that they try so hard to cover up they should not have a problem with this. They are the only "free" country in all of the Middle East I am told. |
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DarkSeid
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Because they are cleansing them at a VERY slow rate.
They are not systematically killing them like the Nazis did...but they do know that if the Palestinian population continues to grow Palestinains will be the majority and when that happens Israel will once again (and rightfully so) be back in Palestinian hands...so they are doing all they can to keep the population rate down...by denying them proper medical care and limiting their food and water.
Ohh and they are still there because they can't leave. |
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COBRA in new look
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Ms. Miche,
It looks like you are losing focus these days.
The Serb practiced ethnic cleansing against Muslims in Bosnia but there are still Muslims there
And Saddam practiced ethnic cleansing against Kurds and Shiat in Iraq but they are still there.
What is definition for ethnic cleansing? |
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eimittaa
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because if they ethnically cleansed both Israel and all the occupied territories of the Arabs (Muslims) and there were no more "hated enemies" of Israel. Then there would be trued peace and then there would be no need for the United States to give almost 11 billion dollars in military economic and settlement building aid to israel and they would be a nation who would then stand on their own and not have the US foreign aid.
Also there are still Muslims (Arabs) in Israel because they serve a labor purpose because they do the work that the Israeli's don't want to do. Just as in America we let in different immigrants both legal and illegal to do work that supposedly Americans don't want to do.
After the intifada of 2001 there has been a concerted effort to keep out palestinians form Israel proper so Israel has allowed Thai and fillipino guest workers to come in and fill some of the labor shortage.
In short just like in America businesses want to pay as little as possible to their workers so in Israel and in America the citizens don't want to do the job because the salry is not high enough.
There will be no "complete ethnic cleansing solution" just as in the United States there is a war on drugs. If the war on Drugs were irraidcated and there were sunndely no smugglers or drug dealers or drug addicts users then a whole government industry would fall apart. there would be no need to spend billions on catching drug smugglers etc or curing the addicts or arresting the corner ghetto drug dealer in any major American city or suburb
In short there is too much money involved.
Those are the two reasons why there will be no complete "alleged ethnic cleansing" after more than 60 years. |
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Amy W
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The Muslim populations in Gaza and the West Bank have increased since 1967. If the Israeli government wanted to do ethnic cleansing, they could do better than that! |
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barry white
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Yes there are and they are increasing in number.
Puts paid to yet another big lie.
It is easy to ignore the truth of the situation that muslims would rather live in Israel than in other islamic countries. |
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Rossonero NorCal SFECU
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Hasn't their population actually increased? Too bad the people of carthage weren't similarly "ethnically cleansed," there would be millions of them now demanding the arabs end the occupation of north africa.
Anyway, the obvious answer is there was no ethnic cleansing of Muslims by the Israelis. Either that or they're making a pretty half hearted effort. |
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lemon_lorrain
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They're still here because they like to bother Jews! |
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Lupines supports GEERT WILDERS
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Oh, this is easy question. Raises hand! Pick me!
because israel refuses to cleanse them even though some people really need their mouths washed out with soap!
The filth that comes from mouths sometimes spreading this propaganda and lies that Israel is ethnically cleansing. Gee. What will these people think of next? Pack suicide bombs on their own children? |
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J Q Public
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They haven't killed off all the Muslims/Pals yet. In history can you name any that were victims of genocide or ethnic cleansing that were totally eradicated. I'm not sure what you are asking though or why. |
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