In which country/culture do you think women are respected most?

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Zoser II

Hatomma :
I am here only to laugh out loud ,,,to read the answer of (Nut whatever): Dutch people and woman: hahahah,, does respect mean to put them in display windows,???, (and they were the first to do that...),, the most popular (2 ) sentences by Dutch men : women are like beef , you buy them per kilo.... and in the week end when two idiot dutch are wishing themselves to score that night ,, their respect to football actually is higher than their respect to woman:
I do not know why some (Egyptian boys) 3'aween Fatee... and they actually are real Nuts... uuff
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OK that is it,, Before we had boys like this (nut) we used to respect women more than any nation,Badly we have cheap brain washed boys who think they know everything, and show their tiny muscles (waw) and I am wondering (how they did get this knowledge in their opinion? I lived their" boy" for 20 years uufff) anyway,, Ya Nut: what is the red light district? what is the whites, golden keys.mayfair ...etc in Holland.. if you do not know them Google them.. and stop Efta... Any French speaking country respects women more than the rest. (they maybe influenced by our east culture during Napoleon like they were influenced by a lot of other things.. Islam was the ultimate religion to respect woman,, at least it did not ask people to make women as products to sell...
Boys like you irritate me so much , that I think to retire answering in this section...ufff and yes I can say to you (and rarely i said that to anyone ) GET A LIFE

Btw: i heard the word slut there as much as i drank water,, to your tiny knowledge,, even husbands call their wives SLUTS there
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*Lopehar is a friend from Holland who volunteered to answer this Q ,, thank you Mariam..
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....@Hatem:The Dutch are people who adapted themselves to live in marshes after the Germans attempted to purify them by pushing them to the sea. Belgians are essentially Dutch people,.The dutch say:"Ik mag dan wel een duivelskind zijn, maar gelukkig geen mof", which roughly translates as "I may be the son of the devil, but at least I'm not German". (atee3ah )
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@7ala : Thank you for your comments, I would like to clarify something, a way to respect woman , is not to allow women who choose to stand in a window to do so even if it is her choice,simply because these minority give the rest of her gender the reputation of being a product to sell,, we respect the human kind by not allowing (the wrong doing ) from being done, the origin of punishment in all the religions ,, is not to punish, as that will not repair what is wrongly done, and God does not enjoy by punishing someone,, we put laws which seems sometimes (against the personal freedom) when this freedom is used ( not ) to respect the human kind.. I hope I make sense..

Zoser

♥Lovely♥ ♥Diamond♥

I'll tell you a little story that happened to me yesterday in answer to your Q.
Yesterday, we took the kids to Fayoum. My husband was driving and I sat next to him. We wanted to ask for directions and stopped next to a police officer who was on my side. I opened the window and started talking to him. He smiled politely and told my husband "7ader, ana gayelak" and he moved to the other side and gave my husband all the necessary directions. A while later, we took a boat on Lake Qaroun and when we finished, the girls jumped to the shore and as it was my turn, and I started moving and extend my hand to the boatman. He politely asked me to sit again and told my husband to go first so as to hold my hand.
If anyone dare say that is extreme, please read Mr Blank's story first.

Mr Blank (rest his mind )

Initially, there is no such a respect in the culture or the country which it allows trading women like a good, and allow men to buy woman's virginity, or allows brothel houses to be opent (legal lol brothel), or allow women to sell themselves for a money (hookers ), or allows women to have a sexual relation out of marriage, or defend homosexual rights or does blame women for 'original sin', or consider women an "evil temptress", there is no respect for women in such a country or culture like that, " once in Canada i saw a 'dedlo' shop and it was written in the front of it, ""it's the time for the women to get their freedom"" lol 'I wish you know what dedlo means bc I can't explain it here lol'

in my little mind I think Women in Islam are appreciated and highly respected, I m n't extremist at all or keep stating Islam in my answers but it's the truth as I see it and i will explain my point of view right here, the Islamic Law has guaranteed rights to women over 1400 years ago, whereas women in Western societies are now struggling to obtain their rights, Islam does not look down on women nor consider them an "evil temptress", Islam doest blame women for 'original sin'
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@nada If women in the Muslim World today don't get their rights, it is not because Islam did not grant them their rights, but because of some alien traditions prevailing in many places that have come to overshadow the teachings of Islam, either through ignorance or through the impact of colonization.
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@nuts in that countries women (unlike all Arab world) also have the right to marry her girlfriend 'homosexual' relax it isn't forbidden.
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@ ECS your state hasn't been told to uncover (Nuns).Or told to allow their Priest to marry in order to stop sexual abuse in their community. What is the threat of us wearing the covering of our way of life when we venture outside our homes? I find that European policies on the restrictions against the wearing of Muslim head coverings are contradictory of the western political philosophy itself, because it would seem that such a statement disrespects religious freedom of Islamic peoples, I do not see how the use of head coverings disrespects others in any way, It is not the freedom of practicing religious and cultural traditions that create social distance but instead the state policies that prevent them.
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Edit2 @ESC [no woman is forced to be nun] and wy you assume Muslim women are forced to wear veil ??,
[how many nuns you see in Europe this day] I don't care how many as long as there is only one nun covers her hair, it means a principle, so please dude don't catch the tail and let the head, so if there were few Muslim who wears the veil, Europe would debate it ?? don't eat my brain, [ In Europe girls aren't taught they must cover ....], yes exactly it's their culture and we do respect it, we never force women or girls to cover their head wen they come to my country, we do respect their freedom 'while you don't do',[ I've seen three- and four-year-old girls wearing the hijab], for me it's wired, and I hardly see something like that, It's not the Islam teaching, [what do you expect of a religion that says a girl is ready for marriage and sex when she reaches 9 or 10? ] you have negative thoughts about Islam and i don't blame you to not be informed bc it's ur media, so listen, fixed age of marriage that applies to every girl is an unrealistic generalization. If marriage were only a matter of biology, then the age of puberty would have fit for the purpose. Nevertheless, Islam declares that marriage means much more than biology. Qu'an said [[ And among His Signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquillity with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect.]] Surah 30 Verse 21, in Islam it depends on may factors like time, place, culture and the psychological readiness of the person, eventually The age of marriage is, then, an individual case. The only criterion here is that the couple should both be mature enough. Such maturity should help both of them recognize and respect their duties and responsibilities, in order to achieve the intended ends of marriage.
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eventually ESC
### In my country which it's an Islamic country [Egypt] girls get married at 18 years old, Means they save their virginity till mim 18 years, while in your country kids lose their virginal at 9 to 12 years ' fact' and you can't deny that####.
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Edit 3 Esc, Dont ever call me idoit again ,, you have no idea how long is my tongue, so be nice (khlek mo7trm ), anyway, [..child marriage all over the Muslim world is rife...bla bla bla], Read again what I did write and this time try to use that thing in your skull which calls mind, If you don't understand what you read, it's your problem then,

Aisha Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) Age when she got married, it's not fatwaa ya 7omar it's conclusion, fter the Holy Prophet’s death, she acted as a teacher and interpreter of Islam, providing guidance to even the greatest of the male Companions of the Holy Prophet Muhammad. They made a special point of going to her to gain knowledge and seek her opinion. A vast number of sayings and actions of the Holy Prophet are reported from her in books of Hadith. She not only quoted his sayings and reported her observations of events, but interpreted them to provide solutions to questions. Whenever necessary, she corrected the views of the greatest of the Companions of the Holy Prophet. She made rulings and judgments on which Islamic law is based
besides As to the authenticity of these reports, it may be noted that the compilers of the books of Hadith did not apply the same stringent tests when accepting reports relating to historical matters as they did before accepting reports relating to the practical teachings and laws of Islam. The reason is that the former type of report was regarded as merely of academic interest while the latter type of report had a direct bearing on the practical duties of a Muslim and on what was allowed to them and what was prohibited. Thus the occurrence of reports such as the above about the marriage of Aisha in books of Hadith, even in Bukhari, is not necessarily a proof of their credibility.""" fehemt haga "" and by the way some reports said 10 other said 19 and married in 20,

[Kids in western don't lose their virginity at 9 years] lol I believe now you don't live in the west lol or you know but you aren't brave enough to admit it.. ay by the way have a look in society and friendship section in Y! answer lol may help." idiot "
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@ Muslim wooww hahaha you did shut ESC "hotgirl" up

Reikominder

You will not find this country or culture :)

Welcome Back ya Nada, el category nawar :)

@ Zoser, rawa2 we matakhotsh fe balek, fe nas ketter bet7eb tebayen enha fahma, aw 3ayzeen ye3ardo we khalas.

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@ lovely diamond, are u with or against the way the 2 men deal with u ?!

Tribal Angel

practically ?

women are underrated EVERYWHERE ..

you know in Europe, women work as mechanics, plumbers, wall painters, taxi drivers .. I respect them a lot for that .. they want to be equal , and they're trying to be equal , but it just isn't the same .. my mom befriended a lady taxi driver who used to take her places all the time, and she told her "i hate it when people tip me more than my male colleagues just 'cuz im a woman .. not cuz im a good fast driver" ...

Lebanese people respect women, but in Arab countries like Jordan, "camel" is another word for "beautiful woman" .. my Jordanian colleagues used to say "shoft hal JAMAL?" and i used to look around .. What..Where..Camels in the snow ???.. and if she's SUPER beautiful then she's a horse.."w3arth Okhty enha 7saaaan ah welllaaa"...

I have been raised up as a Dutch-Morrocan in Holland. Some see this as bad luck, i see it as luck.
This because i can put myself very easy in the perspective of another and take the beauty from different cultures. And no one can put me in a corner telling me i am either Dutch or Morrocan, as i am both! And that makes me a citizen of the world! Feels always so good to say that..

I think we can not see in a country or culture for how men or women should respect a woman. It is all in the character of someone.

But one thing makes me feel sorry for some people looking only to Europe through pink glasses and make it Utopia for women.

1. I have seen Dutch women being beaten up by their husbands (in every level of society)
When girls are being harrassed in public, they will not be helped quickly by surrounders
2. I have seen Dutch women being cheated by their men, so easily. Even in front of their eyes..

3.Once when i was very young i was working in a famous fancy restaurant, and a Dutch woman came to me and told me please handover the bill when i go to the lady's room. Because, and this is true, men usually do not pay the dinner for their women. Not even once in a while, believe me this is true, ofcourse there are exceptions always.
Then there are Dutch women who are dying to stay at home and only take care of the children, they go to bars and try to find wealthy men who will choose for them after they have been drinking so many alcohol that thy do not even know either it is day or night, believe me I worked in many many places, in Holland. But lets be honest doesnt this happen in all the world?
Then i know so many Dutch women who want to get married to none Dutch men because they do not feel like women with Dutch men.
Funny thing is that i have 2 Dutch-Morrocan friends who are married to Dutch men. One is very happy, and feels very respected, in all her being, she can depend on him in every situation. the other feels she has to be the man in house,, do i need to say more?

Ofcourse you can say, Dutch women think differently in these matters, but this is not true. Lots of Dutch women want to be held the door for open by their men or women, as even lesbians i know complained about these matters. They want their husbands to think about them after making love, but it is proven that most of Dutch women need to use other satisfying things to let them have pleasure also, while the men are sleeping after they have what they want. One i knew even made several love to her (if you can call it making love) while she is sleeping!!!!
Untill now women in Holland do not get the same salaries for their jobs as men. They are not even allowed to have some jobs, because they are women.
Even when they do both, good jobs and being a mother, they are being accused of not giving enough attention to their husbands. In my opinion the husband should respect her choice, as also he enjoys of being a father and she is doing the job she loves. And children you make them together.

Then in Morocco it must be the same,,, as you find respectless people all around the world.

I think that in EVERY country/culture ... there are people who respect women very much ... and also there are people who disrespect women very much
So its all about the character & personality of the person you are asking him ... NOT about his country/culture

i agree with Zoser

chandra

none ... not ENOUGH anyway!

Saying that a REAL British Gentleman does love and cherish and respect his wife - if he has a real gentle side ..

Plus its about being brought up well - if your Dad was completely respectful towards your Mum - then its more likely you will do the same - as you had a good role model - and its just 'normal' to you ..

7ala is fluffy ?

I agree with Reiko that finding one county that respects women more than others would be very hard to find.
While i agree with Zoser's point, i would also like to add that many of the women sadly choose to be prostitutes, to stand in the windows & on the streets to make money, they are not always forced, those women loose their own respect.
Many of you have stated that women are more respected in the Arab world, is that really true, in my experience of living in Egypt women are cheated on, lied to, touched up, just as much as anywhere else. I'm not just talking about western women living there either, i mean real Egyptian women living in Luxor. For me it was much worse, i got touched up & crude comments on a daily basis & my hubby didnt understand how bad it was until he moved to England, then he saw the difference. English are just as bad, dont get me wrong, but its done in a different way, its the cheating & lying here, men & women.

I once had a boyfriend who was so lovely, he treated me like i was a princess, did everything for me & was so gentlemanly, but he drove me mad, lovely to be adored, but scary & confining when the person you are with will do ANYTHING you ask, lol.
I respect my husband & he does me, but we have our own freedom of thoughts too, we are still individuals, but love each other sooo much.

@Zoser, i understand what your saying & yes, i agree with you, lol. Just wanted to make it clear that sometimes we bring it on ourselves.

@Moonrise, id' have to say you are lucky then, as the only time i was totally ignored in Egypt was when i covered myself from head to toe in a black robe, then no one could see i wasnt an Egyptian lady.
I tried the strong confident walk, but it didnt stop them in Luxor, they saw me every day, but they still kept on hassling me, they forget not all western women are the same & i found it quite stressful, its the only thing i really didnt like about living in Luxor.

Dryest Flame

if its not by theory so none and I'lll tell you my point of view many of culture say that women must be respected its not our issue to mention them now but to do what books say it will never happened that doesn't mean that women are respected now but if we take a look at history there is always 2 women in man's life that's because there was one to raise his kids and the other one for all the things he cant do with him wife.you can Scale now on that concept all the things happened after that they became 2 face now (2zdwagya) between women must not be respected till that point and the other side that if IM modernized and open mind i must respect women in proper way so they neither respect nor dis respect (homa 3ayshen mar7alt ezdwagya rahyba we 7atnthy bmasayb zy ely bnsm3 3nha 2daya e3'tsab,2atl,....law 7awlt tdawr 3la sbab msh 7atla2y 3'er eno msh fahm hwa 3aysh fe eah)

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@zoser:i watch a movie its modern Italian movie it was 3 short stories one of them was talk about that issue but in some how comic but they use men instead of women as there was a women very bored so she decide to go shopping so at the supermarket she find that they put men every one by price per night but she have to bring him back at the morning but you know they used an Arabic sound track it was a song by ihab tawfik so what they wanted to say from my point of view that the dis respect is related to Arab by using this song any how ana ba2et shayfa dlw2ty en el 27tram ba2a nsby ya3ny masln fe wa7da mat7trmsh gozha ela lma ydrbha aw el ragl fe nazrha hwa el kwa we da tab3n by7'tlf as the respect its differ from culture to another i see Islamic culture give the woman enough respect or it give respect to the humanity in general but the respect we talk about i think it became a ration issue so as it ratio so there is no country for it.

@hatem:3ayz ganaza tshb3 feha latm

@nut:to make a different its not to be against all through the line may be we are not the best but we are not like the rest we are not sell our women legally and we also make them ready for that,and let me tell you something I'm not with man equal woman no they are not equal but I'm with justice cause we are different phiscally,emotionally,......and all that make us at the end different but that isn't mean that if a man ans woman work the same work but they gave the man more than a woman just bec. he is a man that what I'm not with so we are equal in the humanity but we different in many other things

Wise Heart

Everybody and most countries respect women theoretically, only a good Muslim anywhere in the world would respect her practically.

Muslim

@ ESC

from bible from bible from bible from bible from bible

Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do. 8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money. First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No!
Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her.
## trange things: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible. "fact" The girl's father and mother shall produce the evidence of the girl's virginity before the elders of the town at the gate. And the girl's father shall say to the elders, "I gave this man my daughter to wife, but he had taken an aversion to her; so he has made up charges, saying, 'I did not find your daughter a virgin.' But here is the evidence of my daughter's virginity!" And they shall spread out the cloth before the elders of the town. (From the New JPS translation, Deuteronomy 22:15-17)"
The New JPS translation of Deuteronomy 22:15-17 makes it even more clear about having the parents of the girl displaying the bloody piece of cloth before the elders of the town.

### In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

##Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money

###next up Girls at the age of 3 were forced into sex in both the Talmud and the Bible. Also, the age consent in US and Europe was as low as 10:

The Bible on marriage of young girls with much older men, As it is Christian evangelists and other believers in the Bible who have been bitterly reviling the Holy Prophet Muhammad on account of his marriage with Aisha like that idiot 'Esc', I put to them the practices of the great patriarchs and prophets that are recorded in the Bible itself in this connection. The main accusations regarding the marriage of Aisha are that she was too young in age while the Holy Prophet was a much older man, being fifty years of age, and that consent to marriage was either not obtained from her or she was not capable of giving it.

now here is my surprise,

Mary and Joseph
“It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph’s marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children … A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph …”

next up ///2-DAVID /// Abraham

So ESC Zip up your mouth and sit by the corner or I'll paste here the Song of the songs,, Article by Article from bible, I think you know what song of the songs, Dont you ?

Reggie

When you find out let me know? respect has gone down the pan very much so ?

♪♥nada♥♪

heyy Hatem, How're you? :-)

in which Culture...then, it's in the Islamic culture
but in which Conuntry...that's another issue, but at least, i know that women are underestimated generally in the Arab world (and actually around the world too, even in Europe or the USA)

and yeah...Theoritical, it's in the "Islamic Culture", but Practical, we're just too far from the teachings of Islam in how to treat women, and how women are equal to men (except of course in what Allah has created us different from each other, like "al quama")...

actually there's always a lot to say in such issue, and volumes could be written to discuss the role of woman in Life.
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EDIT @ Mr.Blank :
Exactly...and that's what i mentioned above :-)
Islam is faultless, but those who apply it according to their values not according to the "Sharia" are those who're far from its teachings..right? :-)

@Reikominder:
thaaaaaaaaanksss dear soooo much wallahi, menawar beiko koloko....miss you brother :-)

Nona El Magnoona

thats generalising WAAY too much.
women are respected most by gentlemen anywhere around the world, not just in one country with "normal men expetionally outnumbered by gentlemen".
maybe the question should be in which country do you find more gentlemen?!because honestly, i dont know :)

lool @ nut coco "especially dutch people"
aww.

mad world !!

Countries which apply the islamic rules !!

Juliet(still waiting hahahah)

dandyPANDYpanda

hmm...well it depends what you mena by respected. i think britan has treated women fairly for the longest amount of time.

Moonrise

i have always been respected in Egypt and all over the world bec im not for sale , im not touchable .
when im alone or with a member of my family i have a neutral look on my face which keeps away anything offensive .
Zoser speaks rightly of cities where women are practically on show before they are sold .
Lovely Diamond told us a meaningful episode which shows how respectful Egyptians are in dealing with respectable ladies .
i can walk anywhere in the world at any time without being bothered .
i walk straight like a soldier in the army .
thank God we have men who know how to respect a lady.

aziz

..lol well i read a few of the other "arguments"... ... i would hae to agree with how one is brought up and the environment in which someone is brought up... i mean you have honor killings not just in the middle east but also in africa and india... and for what reason most the time.. either the girl doesn't want to marry the chosen groom... but thats obvious becuase most the time she is i would say about 9 or sometimes younger if that.... you cannot really generalize in which country women are more respected.. becuase everywhere the is discrimination... but not becuase i am an american... only becuase i have seen the power of what a nations people have achieved by not being afraid and fighting for what is right.. that is the whole reason our country is a little more freer then some.... cough cough.. middle east... cough... this is partly why they hate us.. along with bush and the fact that we have to get stupidly involved with other countries... cough cough... stupid... cough... suadi... oil... . cough.... i am just being honest..

Esc | This is Islam

Your tiresome, ever-predictable rant that nudity in Western society is disrespectful to women is absolutely incorrect. I quote our Minister of Culture, "Women with their beautiful hair are like flowers and should not be covered up," and "religion today is linked only to appearances, while every woman's veil should be inside her, not outside." Women are respected more in countries where they're not buried up to their shoulders in the ground and pelted with stones until their skulls crack open for sleeping with men other than their husbands. Women are respected more in countries where they're not flogged a hundred times until their backs are raw for fornication. Women are respected more in countries where they don't have their clitorises cut off in childhood so they won't enjoy sex or cheat on their husbands. Women are respected more in countries where they're not married as soon as they start to menstruate. Women are respected more in countries where menstruation isn't considered a filthy disease but recognized as a biological cycle. Women are respected more in countries where their purity isn't a function of whether they bleed on the bedsheets on their wedding nights and where they don't have to put chicken blood in their vaginas or have hymen reconstruction surgery to not be seen as whores. Women are respected more in countries where they're not taught their entire bodies except their hands and faces are a 'awrah while men must only cover from the navel to the knee. And finally, women are probably respected more in countries where one third of native women and 2 percent of foreign women don't say they've never been sexually harassed!

Blank - scroll up and reread buddy, how much of my post was on the veil? No woman is forced to be a nun, and how many nuns do you see in Europe these days? In Europe girls aren't taught they must cover their entire bodies from head to toe. I've seen three- and four-year-old girls wearing the hijab - but then what do you expect of a religion that says a girl is ready for marriage and sex when she reaches 9 or 10?

Blank again - first off in Islam a girl may be handed over for marriage by her family as soon as she reaches puberty. That means a minimum of 9 years.

Second - child marriage all over the Muslim world is rife, including in the Egyptian countryside where it's common for a girl to get married off at 12 to her cousin and spend the next years of her life in seclusion having 6 or 7 children. And yes, it is in Islam. There's a fatwa on it right here.
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/27305
Quote:
"The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) when she was six years old, and he consummated the marriage with her when she was nine, and at that time he was over fifty.

"Al-Bukhaari (3894) and Muslim (1422) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married me when I was six years old and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine."

9, the exact number you pulled - funny isn't it? :-)

Third - I am not a Westerner, and Western women don't lose their virginity at "9 to 12 years." You are practicing the tactic of picking imaginary numbers out of the air. Don't, because it makes you look like an idiot.

Blank -
1. Before you insult my intelligence try to learn a little English. When you call someone stupid and can't even say it right in English, it doesn't do much for your image.
2. Just because Aisha acted as Muhammad's friend and hadith compiler does not mean that Muhammad's consummating his marriage with her at 9 was any less than it was, it was child marriage and child sex which legalized child marriage and child sex up to this day. Everything you said was irrelevant.
3. You said:
"They made a special point of going to her to gain knowledge and seek her opinion. A vast number of sayings and actions of the Holy Prophet are reported from her in books of Hadith. She not only quoted his sayings and reported her observations of events, but interpreted them to provide solutions to questions. Whenever necessary, she corrected the views of the greatest of the Companions of the Holy Prophet. She made rulings and judgments on which Islamic law is based."
Aisha herself said:
"The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married me when I was six years old and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine."
4. Girls in the West do not have sex at 9 but girls in the Muslim world are married at 9 and have sex with men in their 50s. I don't live in the West. Why is that an issue?If you live in the West and are mocking it to expand your religion, you should be deported.
5. I didn't say you were an idiot, I said you could look like one. Now I know you are one.

Nuts Coco

European, specially dutch people

Edit : people can't just resist the temptation of thumbing me down, Anyways, we can just fool ourselves and say "yea Arabs respect their women more than any other place on earth WE ROCK"

but if we are going to live in the reality world we have to admit the truth, in Europ women are considered equal to men, they can actually drive (unlike Saudi Arabia) wear what ever they want without being called sluts (unlike all Arab world) join the army (unlike most of the Arab world) walk down the street without sexual harassment (unlike all Arab world) they have the right to have a husband who doesn't have another 3 wives (one of them is probably 12 years old, relax, its not haram)

as i said, we can fool ourselves as long as we want, we can say "oh westerners treat their women like a piece of meat" .. .. "we are the best people ever step foot on earth" .. but it will only make us worse

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