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Is it considered excessive to "wash a childs mouth with soap or pepper" when caught swearing excessively?

I understand that many consider corporal punishment and so called spankings (hidings in South Africa) to be an excessive use of force in contemporary times but was wondering if peppering a childs mouth when swearing is also considered excessive?
My 5 year old son picked up the word "B*tch" at school and now thinks it funny to label me as such when confronted with the word "No", so far I have been tolerant and only spoken to him about it but may in future consider more appropriate action.....?

    



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Snorkie
He he he he.........yes it must be quite embarrasing when he calls you that in the shops!! What I did is to confuse them, tell him he has it wrong there is no word like that, the correct word is ditch. That is what I did with fcuk it, when my son heard that some where and keep on saying it.....I told him you got it wrong, boy it is bucket. I agree with Alf, do not make too much of it, he is still small. My mother used to wash my brothers mouth out with soap and put curry powder on his tongue, nothing happened to him, it was not as if she made him ate a whole box of OMO.....


Alf Garnett
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They say the best is to ignore it and the worst is to react to it since it is a form of attention seeking. Try ignoring him but if he wont stop give him a stern warning then start to deprive him of things e.g. TV,favourite toy etc.


skooby786
Most of the comments i have read is the way whitey's handle these situation. I remember I was about five and my dad heard me say the word "POES" (probably hanging around with Emjay's folks). He didnt talk to me nicely or ignore me. He immediately ordered me to the kitchen and rubbed a frikkin chilli on my lips. I immediately got the message that I am not to utter those words again. I have spoke to lots of people who have done this and it works.


the ferrari man
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In this case I can honestly say "I lead by Example" I will never swear in front of my children. If they should swear at me, or where I can hear them I will react harshly, and a proper hiding will not be out of the question.


Hennie
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I don't know how someone's mouth could be "washed with pepper", but anyways, I think that's just plain dumb. Give him a good hiding but be sure you set the right example to him by not swearing in the first place. (Not saying that you do).


Reb Da Rebel
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I wouldnt suggest doing that... its lethal.

Even time out is a bit depressing as you're depriving your child of love "i suppose"... well, maybe I didnt put it properly but I did read an article somewhere about this big issue "to spank or not to spank".... different strokes for different folks I suppose. Who am I to say if the next person can or cannot discipline their child in a specific way? What works for me may not for you, so you keep to yours and i'll keep to mine. There are far more pressing issues in this world than child discipline. Before discipline, teach them safety and how to avoid pedophiles and sick b@stards of the world...


Dentist H since 2001
soap is toxic to the mouth.
ok in small amounts, but if you are doing it all the time, it's not meant to be ingested.


redhead
I think that is a bit harsh - he needs a smack and explanation why you are doing that. if you don't believe in smacking, take away something that would really hurt - eg no video games for a week for each time he says the word but you have to mean it though!!


zxcv
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I think that it is good that you spoke to him about it....
I suggest you speak to him once more and make it clear that the next time he uses those worgs , he is going to get a hiding or get peppered, etc...and if he does do it again , carry out your threat (im sure you wouldnt be too excessive) just to let him know that you meant it , cos kids are too sharp and if you keep threathening and dont do it , they know they can take you for a ride , but if you do it once , they know you mean business...


cakes
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I would just tell him, that he might think it is funny because his school friends think it is funny. But in your house he will not use that word, and if you hear him say it again, send him to his room. And stick to it. Or choose some other form of reproval.

My dad used to give us such a klap! Or even haul out his sjambok! Ow! Ow! Or we were sent to sit in the toilet, one of those old fashioned unwelcoming ones with just enough space for the loo and the door to close. It worked, until I grew tall enough to climb out of the window (no burglar bars in those days!)


cheri
No it is not excessive and a good hiding is also called for sometimes, we have to take responsibility for the behavior of our kids, at school no one gives a damn, so you, as a parent have to be strict and teach them by example as well


Skyli
Well as some have already said, my parents used to use soap when I swore or I got a little hiding that was just enough to make me think twice before I said anything like that again so it worked but when a child gets to a certain age the fear of God or their father fades away.

My brother is terrible with his language and actions he does. He speaks to my father terribly because of the people he hangs around with, it is normal for them to swear at their parents (in the UK) it's a horrible place to bring your children up.

I reckon my brother needs a damn good hiding. Like the rest of us would get back home if we did half the things he did. However, in the UK your child is taken from you if you hit them and social services are to find out. There is just no discipline in this country because you can't do anything as it's classed as neglect, just taking away child's toys does not work anymore. So what else are we to do?


&lt;3YAY&lt;3
What you do is smack your child... not like full abuse but geez give them a smack, however if you are against that i suggest taking away something they enjoy and tell them untill they apologize meaningfully and explain to you why they were wrong they cant have what you confiscated....


marriedandamom
actually the soap is poisonous and has caused vomiting and death in some kids. my sister vomited badly after mom did that to her. so then my mom switched to hot peppers wrapped in a bit of bread - not TOO hot but enough to be AWFUL! *lol* she did NOT make us swallow them though, just chew on them for taste. Yes it is appropriate to take further action but maybe consider spanking or a long time out or taking away special toys or privileges...


Joseph
my mom use to wash my mouth out with soap as a kid, AND IT WORKED!


Ian s
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Yes it is downright excessive, why are you blaming a five year old who's understanding of what he is saying is minimal. If you don't want him to say things it is your function to correct him and let him know immediately that what he is saying will not be tolerated and why. If you nip it in the bud there should be no need for such draconian measures as you suggest.


D405!
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Lol!! i have been working at a childrens home and a five year old has caught that word too and he uses it exessively..but i think it would be a little harsh to wash his little mouth with soap : ),I really dont know how else to descipline children these days.



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