Is it possible to be Muslim and accept Israel's right to exist ?

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Lupines supports GEERT WILDERS

Hi. No I don't think Muslims can accept the Jewish person let alone the whole Jewish state. From what I've studied they just have religious superiority issues not thinking anyone else has a right to exist, it isn't just Jews!

They teach their children that Jewish people are worse, but they combine it with teachings that Islam will rule and dominate the world and they don't agree with Western laws to them it is Shariah law only. They regularly chant Death to America, Death to Israel, they've already gone into Europe and are taking over the place with violent riots and they already control 60+ Muslim states now. It's like Hitler when he first went after the Jews but he actually had his master Aryan race plan. The Muslims just have a "religious twist" to their beliefs. The difference is that on this campaign, it is not a war where country A declares war on country B, they are actually operating as state within a state for a hostile take over from within to spread Islam and make it dominant.

When one watches this Basmallah video about how this young beautiful child is educated how to be a "devout" Muslim that hates Jews, then one will realize the Muslims have major MAJOR issues.

Basmallah, victim of islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tlFL8r9n4Y

Every time a peaceful Muslim person comes along they just murder him. They teach their children and breed the violence exponentially as they have a high birth rate. The violent ones kill off the peaceful ones they are horribly violent.
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No. I still disagree even with the data of Egypt and Jordan peace treaty. If one wants to point out singular people then sure, it's possible. But if one wants to point out if the Muslim will then be allowed to live, then it's questionable. Heads of states sign peace treaties not religious populaces. Previous history shows Anwar Sadat of Egypt was kicked out of the Arab union then assassinated. They tried to assassinate King Hussein of Jordan because he wasn't hostile to Israel (Queen Noor attested he didn't want to fight) and in Lebanon they assassinated multiple people. I think it is a fine line between politics by heads of state and religious populaces and things like that can change from only an assassination attempt away. I think the heads of state keep their populace "in check,." In Jordan they still teach hate in schoolbooks despite the treaty. On Syrian maps they don't have Israel OR Jordan on the map. In Egypt Mubarak still battles with his religious populace just like Jordan does today. While I do acknowledge there are peaceful Muslims, I said earlier they keep killing them off. According to what is a devout Muslim by their own schoolbooks, they do not accept Israel or any other state and devout Muslims produce more children than the rest. They are not only hostile to Israel, the West but they are also hostile to each other. During the Iran-Iraq war Iran (the Khomeini nation for Islamic Revolution 1979) sent thousands of their Persian Muslim children into Iraqi mine fields armed with "plastic keys to paradise." Then Saddam never accepted Kuwait he wanted Mesopotamia back. So tell me that they will accept Israel. They don't even accept each other or their own lives in this world let alone a Jewish state.

You want to know the true test of a Muslim can accept a Jew? If an obviously Jewish person with kippah on goes into a predominately Muslim area and doesn't get mugged. To me if they can accept one singlular Jew, then we would know that the mindset of Muslims has changed.

Jim L

The conflict is not really about religion, so, yes.

Casting Shadows

The first answer is right. Muslims are taught to hate Israel. My father has a map of "Palestine" on his wall.

No, I don't believe that Egypt is exempt from this hate. I'm currently a college student living in Egypt. The face that a nation shows you is often different from that nation's inner face.

Unknown

Well yes, two Muslim countries already accept Israel's right to exist. Egypt and Jordan.

KNAYA Argentino Errante

When the Muslims accept to Israel, then the war was finished. In the organic letter of Hamas this writing that they must erase to Israel of the map.

greetings from Argentina

THE TRUTH IS HOLY

Not if you want to live. Moslems that do not promote the killing of Americans and Israel are deemed traitors according to Moslem leaders. They are very often murdered by other Mohammedans.

Peace in our time

Yes, of course it is. If not, then why do Muslims serve in the IDF? That's very disrespectful of your use of "blah" when describing the teachings of Islam.

certainly. egypt and jordan both accept israel, and there are almost a million muslims in israel who support their own country.

mamaofaprincess

i think so.
It isn't up to religion to decide whether an entire nation of people have a right to exist or not.
You may not agree with the political position which gave the Israelis the land which became Israel as we know it today and that is 100% fine and 100% different from saying an entire nation has no right to exist.

to a previous poster. i can't believe you just said a nation of people who were persecuted murdered and dehumanised by hitler... with hitler. thats disgusting.

Well, when I was raised, we were shown a map of Israel only it was labeled Palestine and we were made to watch children's tv from Gaza that had furry cartoon rabbits, bees and a mickey mouse that said to be martyrs and eat jews alive.

It is not possible. My father taught me hatred.

Here are some textooks we used:

Tyreeisme!

yes both Egypt and Jordan have peace with israel, they are both predominately Muslim countries

H.A

yep

why not??

h'ayim tovim Y'all

No... ALL muslims must believe in, and obey, allah absolutely and without exception... Allah decrees that there is only one islam, that there is only one koran as given to muhamid... There is no such thing as a "moderate" muslim by the law of allah... there is no such thing as a "modern" islam by the law of allah.... the law of allah decrees that islam is to dominate the world... the law of allah states that ALL who do not submit to islam are to be killed.......

...... as Israel is a "Jewish" state... and no True Jew will ever submit to islam.... by the law of allah ALL True Jews and any "jewish state" must die.... the same can be said for all of those of The True Church(The True Christian Faith)... No one of The True Church will ever submit to a world dominated by islam.

I will NEVER SUBMIT to islam

edit note: to PaLo ChiCk.... I said "submit"... which IS what islam demands... not "convert"... big difference.

justtruthnointimidation

If israel stops being a racist welfared hell hole and gives equal rights to all say yes, the jew may not be the majority but why should they be anyway.

H F

Yes it's fine.
I have never believed this was about religion.
Most muslims go against Israel because of the way Israel have treated Palestinians, and by taking the land which they believe to be Palestinian land. The ethical issue is why people are against it. They don't agree with what Israel have done in the past 60 years. Just like Jew's not living in Germany may of reacted when news came about what was happening in Germany.

Tell me is right, Jews and muslims have lived togerther many years before this conflict.

Martina

Yes. The conflict is not about religion.

And only immature people go out of their way to bash other people's beliefs.

2+2=5

i dont think it does,
muslim leaders need someone to blame for their failures:
thats where israel comes to play,
but you can be a good moderate muslim and campaign for peace between israel and arabs

dandyl

yes of course its possible and many many well educated Muslims are seeing the truth and fully support Israel for the Jews.
Read the following sites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Zionism
www.arabsforisrael.com
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/08/canadas-pro-israel-muslims.html
Muslim Zionism is a belief among some Muslims of a Jewish State of Israel. This includes the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, the State of Israel.
Quotes from the Qur'an

"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]

[edit] Notable Muslim Zionists

* Dr. Tawfik Hamid A former member of a terror organization and current Islamic thinker and reformer
* Sheikh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi - Director of the Cultural Institute of the Italian Islamic Community
* Tashbih Sayyed - A Muslim Pakistani-American scholar, journalist, and author.
http://www.tawfikhamid.com/
http://www.zionism-israel.com/israel_news/2007/07/magdi-allam-muslim-zionist.html

Anita P

I hope you don´t want to say that everybody is just the same adn that being a Muslim it means that you necessarily have to think in a stereotypical way.
All what I can say is that my friends who are Muslims do accept Israel and that there is no discussion about if Israel should exist or not exist. And by the way, we do agree that Palestine also has the right to exist and that there should be a sovereign state called Palestine as well. And we do agree that Islamic fatalism and terror has nothing to do with Islam. As well as we reject any terror acts.
And to finish with that, we do not accept "Hamas" as a legal government, because we all know who they are, what they pretend and that they will bring nothing else but misery to their own people.
Who does leave with freedom nowadays in Palestine? People are afraid to say what they think and prefer to hide behind silence in order to not convert into the next victims of Islamic terror (which is impulsed by their own people).
I don´t make friends who support the war and killing of innocents and neither respect human rights.
I don´t make friends with these radical Jewish people who believe that Palestine does not have any right to be there.
And certainly I don´t have any friendship with these Muslims who do not accept that Israel has the right to exist the way it exists nowadays.
I have Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist friends...
I have Muslim friends from Morroco, Tunisia, Lebanon, Egypt...
I am Jewish.

RIGHTS???

IS IT POSSIBLE FOR MUSLIMS AND ISRAELIS TO LIVE IN PEACE SO THIS WORLD CAN HAVE PEACE ONCE MORE

FOR THE NOTE, BEFORE ISRAEL WAS A STATE YOU GUYS WERE LIVE TOGETHER JUST FINE UNTIL ZIONIST INTERFERED.

YES ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO EXIST WITH THE PALESTINIANS IN PEACE.

BUT FIRST THEY MUST SHOW SOME LOVE TO THE PALESTINIANS. AND BRAKE DOWN THAT WALL.

αησηумσυѕ ωιтн тнє тяυтн فلسطين

i dont know if it is possible

i for one palestinian muslim, do not agree with the existence of israel. call it what you may, we are all entitled to an opinion, and i stand STRONGLY with mine.

MR. A

Wow, people with kind of legitimate answers, i.e. refer to some sources are thumbs down upon. (sometimes, yes, they deserve it)

Well some answers say that No, but you can not inter-change the words ARAB and MUSLIM, as stated in a previous answer, compared to the rest of the world, their are not a lot of Arab muslims, actually maybe Indonesia has the most amount of Muslims, and maybe even India (small percent of a huge population adds up)

The ones who say Yes, good for you, this is actually mostly a political war, but some jews, mostly Zionist, think its, or are trying to make it a religious war, mostly to spread bad press on the actual Muslims

Apparently in the UN Israel is only recognized by three nations, the UK, the nation which gave the jews the lands that previously belonged to Israel, the USA for some reason, and Israel itself. The UN has made it clear that Israel, sense its formation broke most of the resolutions passed by the UN.

Also, one must consider that the people of Gaza or any former person who lived in Palestine should have the right to fight back, as stated by John Locke (1632 to 1704) governments were created to protect life and that the people had a right to rebel when government violates natural rights.

Amal B

Islam doesnt teach anything about Israel ceasing to exist or Israel period.
this is more of a racial issue and not religious.
only 30% of muslims are arabs, and only 50% of arabs are muslim.
Now maybe if you grew up in gaza then yeah your parents will teach you different. but think about the other side. Do jews have a teaching saying they are the superior race, and Israel is the mother of all lands? yes.
does that sound like nazis?
yes

Wise Heart

There is nothing about Israel in Islam. Just like South Africa and the racial government any normal person will be against any country who kill kids and women the same way Israel use to do in any military action which is always over a land that's not given to Israel by any one (Lebanon, Gaza and west bank)

Before anything Israel should stop killing kids and women or old people if it's a Jewish country, because it's not allowed by Judaism as far as I know. If it's not a Jewish country it should follow international law and respect humanity and never do like the nazi in the old times otherwise it'll have the same end.

ivor

Yes - once Palestinians finally gain justice and restitution. It is not only Muslims but all right thinking humanity that wants Israel to shake of it's gangster mentality and behave with decency.

fuhadx

You are not really that clever are you, Israel was created by the west, And is still according to the UN charter mostly illegal. Why should Israel exist. Before when it was Palestine, Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived side by side in peace. When Israel was created the Palestinian Muslims, Jews and Christians where all removed killed and kicked out. Just like in Nazi Germany they were rounded up and exiled from there own homes and lands.

^ PaLo ^

blah blah blah is your own teachings Mrs!

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EDIT to h'ayim tov Y'all
Nobody is chasing you with stick and telling you to convert to Islam!

capitalgentleman

I have not read the whole Koran, but nothing I've seen in it so far suggests anything about Israel existing or not. Which makes sense, as Israel was created about 1200 or 1400 years after the book was written....

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