Is the Vatican doing the right thing? ?

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John E

I know what you really are trying to do here my dear friend.
Of course no one denies the Jewish Holocaust but you merely are trying to show what is at stake here with that irresponsible Jewish behaviour in Palestine.
Great question and I congratulate you for the double "meaning" of this.
Greetings

Cool Breeze

Yes,but it isn't going far enough; they should break off diplomatic ties; indeed they should never have been established in 1996; the Holy Land was a peaceful pastoral environment until the zionists came along; now it is just one gore-fest after another. But the real parties who need to re-think are the five Protestant-majority nations who support this vile enterprise: The U.S.,the U.K.,Canada,Australia and New Zealand. Jews are merely the performing cast in a play authored and produced by Protestantism.

Claymore Thomas III

So if this is the FINAL DOCUMENT of the Jew deaths
Here it is:
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article_image.php?id=130513
Last Update was in 1980 and shows 270,000 Jewish deaths, how on earth the jews have created the 1.5 million first

http://www.christianparty.net/holocaust5.gif

One year later 4 million

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and six months later the ....6 million number.

I don't know something smells real bad here, especially after the jews got all the German Gold in compensations.
Jesus man! Money for dead people!!
I can't believe that thing!
Imagine live Jews driving off all confiscated Mercedes and VolksWagons full of gold!

That's a neat idea for a Hollywood epic movie, right?

Anyways that Bishop dude said there was 300,000 dead jews which is 30,000 more than the Red Cross archives, so deep down inside the Jews should feel happy and make him a hero or sumethin.
That's why they are so many holocost survivors everywhere

So yeah he said 300 thou, the truth is 270 so he gave them a 30 thou handicap.
Them jews should be grateful. Tommy

Beautiful Sunset

Of course they are right.
They don't watch the FOXnews or see Shpielberg movies.
They read ....books in the Vatican.
bye bye

* Habseligkeiten

I think its right.

Alice A

Not all jews just the inhumane creatures that control Israel.
Most Jews outside ersatz Israel hate what they do as much as any other decent human being.

Shyster Rich ex-Jew

Of course the Vatican is right.
Everyone among the survivors knows that there were not more than 300.000 dead Jewish people.
Oh, who are we kidding here?
The gentiles have all the facts.
This 6 million number was the fulfillment of the prophecy first, and second to get as much money as we could from the Germans.
I know some real bad stories about Ashkenazim Jews trying to scam the Sephardi Jews! I could write a whole book actually.
One thing's for sure. The Vatican is right. The jewish victims were much less in numbers than the Three hundred thousand number.
Thomas is right
The last estimate spoke of 270,000 dead people.
Shalom!

Lupines supports GEERT WILDERS

No, the Vatican didn't do the right thing. They set people back 50 years and negated the Nostra Aetate. What the Vatican (and everyone else) needs to understand is that the old Roman Empire is extinct, that's what happens when people cross Israel. The only reason the Vatican was still around because they served a purpose. If the Vatican loses that purpose, he loses his blessing. He is a foolish man.

Thankfully, the Catholics do not worship him. They serve G-d. The Pope is just an icon, and very few Catholics follow him.

The Muslims have Rome as their first Euro target, well hey, it looks like the Vatican just opened himself up for it. What a foolish man. People have to live with the consequences of their decisions. I hope he changes his mind and sets things back on the right path.

All Jewish sources pulled out support of the Vatican:
"It will be very difficult for the chief rabbinate of Israel to continue its dialogue with the Vatican as before," the letter said. Chief rabbis of both the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews were parties to the letter.

As far as all the crap you guys are rattling on about in this thread that went off topic, I'm Sephardic and the Holocaust happened and the whole world isn't against Jewish people we actually have alot of support and our greatest supporter is from up above :)

I don't care what you are saying. If I want a lesson in anarchy and civil disobedience I'll call a Greek. Other than that you opinion stinks.
Isn't destroying one government at a time enough for you?

otto2294

whilst i am very pro palestinian i only had the read up to the part where it said the bishop denies the holocaust.

im with israel on this one. i have no respect for people who deny the holocaust just like i have no respect for people who want to replicate it.

the pope and his crew really are horrible people

im not claiming to know exact numbers but all i know is anyone who denies it like the article said is not worth the time of day. there was more than just jews killed in the holocaust also. communists, homosexuals, slovaks, disabled people, the elderly, dissenting germans. so for anyone to deny it is just stupid

The First Dragon

The Vatican has not turned against Israel.
As a Catholic, I feel compelled to explain what happened.
Several bishops had formed a schismatic church of their own, because they disagreed with modern reforms in the Catholic Church. One of them, ordained illegally, is a real stupid; but though he was ordained illegally, his ordination is technically valid. The Pope feels responsible for him. These bishops were excommunicated from the Catholic Church for many years, and had their own following of laypeople. The Pope, concerned for the unity of the Church and not wanting this Schism to continue, allowed them to be received back into the Church.
Now the stupid bishop I mentioned is really not qualified to do the work of a bishop, and is a holocaust denier. He would never have been ordained under normal circumstances. But having idiotic ideas is not sufficient reason, in the Catholic Church, to excommunicate him. I expect he will be kept under close supervision, or else he will end up outside the Church again. He's 68 years old, so hopefully he won't be making any trouble.
You may be aware that the Pope, as a boy, lived in Nazi Germany; his entire family was anti-Nazi and even broke the law because they so despised the Nazi anti-Semitism. You will never hear the Pope deny the Holocaust; he lived in Nazi Germany and knows what it was like. Don't look for him to support the atrocities of Hamas either.

Kevin S

Claymore Thomas III

I know about that document......it surfaced a while ago and it was a scanned copy of a red cross document and the red cross has admitted that it was not an official document and the idea behind it. Minutes later it was all over the internet. The red cross was allowed to enter only certain parts of a concentration camp and they ASKED Germans how many they killed, the number added up to 275,000 or more I forget. Would you believe the Germans? During the war trials, many SS officers admitted that the Red Cross is stupid and fell for the whole tour. You want to believe that it never happened and believe me I would to. The idea is crazy 6 million, it is crazy. Witnesses are allowed in court, but we don't believe holocaust survivors. Explain why everyone's family members were missing. Explain how Europe lost 6 million Jews. THAT IS HOW THE NUMBER WAS MADE. Before the war there were 13 million Jews, afterward there were 7 million nor less. This is why the burning in the ovens makes sense. They never found these people ever again. Why? They were burned. That Vatican do whatever it wants. Christianity slaughtered many people on this earth including millions of Jews. I am not surprised that they are still racist. No, not everyone is wrong except the Jews. What are the Jews right about? A 800 million people in the world believe that beef should not be eaten, does that mean they are right?

"I know some real bad stories about Ashkenazim Jews trying to scam the Sephardi Jews! I could write a whole book actually."

What stories?

"That's why they are so many holocost survivors everywhere"

Huh? There are almost none. I have personally met 1 my whole life (who was not part of the family). Where you get your information. Don't you realize everything you read has an agenda behind it. Even pro-israeli, pro-arab articles. ALL.

Arieh

How many Jews have been killed and displaced over the course of history by the Vatican? So, they really have no credibility with me.

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___

The Catholic church has little relevancy to this situation. I used to belong to that cult, but I left.

So, no, I do not think they are doing anything right...

Jim E

Palestinian holocaust ?

99% of my family were slaughtered in the holocaust, and if they heard........... Ugh, not even worth it.

Having the audacity to compare anything that goes on in the middle east to the holocaust, ignorance.

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