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Isn't it unfair to call the Jews in the West Bank "settlers"?

... when really they should be called squatters?

    



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Wiseguy
Squatters would be the apt description.


Sara~13
Because they have money and weapons therefore control over the media to look as good as possible
Evil assasins


comrade otto
or you could call them the worst of the worst israeli nationalists. they are violent thugs who make palestinians life even more hell.


Arieh
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They were sent there originally by the Israeli government, so I guess you would have to call them "representatives".

An Israeli is at passport control at JFK. Before they stamp his passport the person asks him "Occupation?" He says "No, only visiting."


the truth will reveal itself
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they are illegal immigrants, invaders and thieves


William
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Zionist land thieves ?


Biedronka
Difference betweem settlers an squatters is that settlers have money.


ivor
Not only unfair but criminal that the Israeli Government and the Judaeo Fascists like Lieberman actively encourage such theft of land and abuse of Palestinians


dandyl
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Jews have lived in Judea and Samaria — the West Bank — since ancient times. The only time Jews have been prohibited from living in the territories in recent decades was during Jordan's rule from 1948 to 1967. This prohibition was contrary to the Mandate for Palestine adopted by the League of Nations, which provided for the establishment of a Jewish state, and specifically encouraged “close settlement by Jews on the land.”

Numerous legal authorities dispute the charge that settlements are “illegal.” Stephen Schwebel, formerly President of the International Court of Justice, notes that a country acting in self-defense may seize and occupy territory when necessary to protect itself. Schwebel also observes that a state may require, as a condition for its withdrawal, security measures designed to ensure its citizens are not menaced again from that territory.


PaperbackWriter JPA
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Tell you what - you go and check what international law says about the west bank and who 'owns' it, OK?

And by the way 'west bank' itself is not the correct name, it's the name the Arabs gave to that bit of Israel.

Israel = 0.01% of the middle east.

The Arabs and Muslims have the other 99.999% of it.


jd
There you go trying to think again.
They call themselves settlers and are indeed on Israeli land so long as the left is stopped from giving it aways.
Let your Pals go begging back to Jordon as far as I'm concerned.


ha
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only if everyone in california is a squatter. only in all the arabs outside of the arabian peninsula are squatters.


Grey
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This article was published March 31, 2008 on the Myths and Facts website and is archived at http://www.mythsandfacts.com/article_view.asp?articleID=53

http://www.think-israel.org/hertz.palestinianpeoplelie.html
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Like a mantra, Arabs repeatedly claim that the Palestinians are a native people. The concept of a 'Stateless Palestinian people' is not based on fact. It is a fabrication.

Palestinian Arabs cast themselves as a native people in "Palestine" –– like the Aborigines in Australia or Native Americans in America. They portray the Jews as European imperialists and colonizers. This is simply untrue.

Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a God-forsaken backwash that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.

The land's fragile ecology had been laid waste in the wake of the Arabs' 7th-century conquest. In 1799, the population was at it lowest and estimated to be no more than 250,000 to 300,000 inhabitants in all the land.

At the turn of the 20th century, the Arab population west of the Jordan River (today, Israel and the West Bank) was about half a million inhabitants and east of the Jordan River perhaps 200,000.

The collapse of the agricultural system with the influx of nomadic tribes after the Arab conquest that created malarial swamps and denuded the ancient terrace system eroding the soil, was coupled by a tyrannous regime, a crippling tax system and absentee landowners that further decimated the population. Much of the indigenous population had long since migrated or disappeared. Very few Jews or Arabs lived in the region before the arrival of the first Zionists in the 1880s and most of those that did lived in abject poverty.

Most Arabs living west of the Jordan River in Israel, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza are newcomers who came from surrounding Arab lands after the turn of the 20th century because they were attracted to the relative economic prosperity brought about by the Zionist Movement and the British in the 1920s and 1930s.

This is substantiated by eyewitness reports of a deserted country –– including 18th-century reports from the British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, French author and historian Count Constantine Volney (Travels through Syria and Egypt, 1798); the mid-19th-century writings of Alphonse de Lamartine (Recollections of the East, 1835); Mark Twain (Innocents Abroad, 1867); and reports from the British Consul in Jerusalem (1857) that were sent back to London.

The Ottoman Turks' census (1882) recorded only 141,000 Muslims in the Land of Israel. The real number is probably closer to 350,000 to 425,000, since many hid to avoid taxes. The British census in 1922 reported 650,000 Muslims.

Aerial photographs taken by German aviators during World War I show an underdeveloped country composed mainly of primitive hamlets. Ashdod, for instance, was a cluster of mud dwellings, Haifa a fishing village. In 1934 alone, 30,000 Syrian Arabs from the Hauran moved across the northern frontier into Mandate Palestine, attracted by work in and around the newly built British port and the construction of other infrastructure projects. They even dubbed Haifa Um el-Amal ('the city of work').

The fallacy of Arab claims that most Palestinians were indigenous to Palestine –– not newcomers - is also bolstered by a 1909 vintage photograph of Nablus, today an Arab city on the West Bank with over 121,000 residents. Based on the number of buildings in the photo taken from the base of Mount Gerizim, the population in 1909 –– Muslim Arabs and Jewish Samaritans –– could not have been greater than 2,000 residents.

Family names of many Palestinians attest to their non-Palestinian origins. Just as Jews bear names like Berliner, Warsaw and Toledano, modern phone books in the Territories are filled with families named Elmisri (Egyptian), Chalabi (Syrian), Mugrabi (North Africa). Even George Habash –– the arch-terrorist and head of Black September –– bears a name with origins in Abyssinia or Ethiopia, Habash in both Arabic and Hebrew.....................................

Yes the article goes on from there and you can read it in it's entirety at the supplied link...http://www.think-israel.org/hertz.palestinianpeoplelie.html


Lupines supports GEERT WILDERS
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You can call it West Bank and me and the Jewish inhabitants there any name you like, but it still doesn't change the fact that it isn't your land to divvy up and I'm not moved by your opinion.

It is Judean land, Judah is our largest tribe, that is the Judea and Samaria region of Israel, and we are Jews.


vicki d
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They are neither. The West Bank belongs to the Jews and Israel. The Palestinians however are the worst kind of squatters.


samsoomathemadruba
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They are the owners, returning owners.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoYsfbq3vMc


Annt Hu DeShalit
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Like a mantra, Arabs repeatedly claim that the Palestinians are a native people. The concept of a 'Stateless Palestinian people' is not based on fact. It is a fabrication.

Palestinian Arabs cast themselves as a native people in "Palestine" -- like the Aborigines in Australia or Native Americans in America. They portray the Jews as European imperialists and colonizers. This is simply untrue.

Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a God-forsaken backwash that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.

The land's fragile ecology had been laid waste in the wake of the Arabs' 7th-century conquest. In 1799, the population was at it lowest and estimated to be no more than 250,000 to 300,000 inhabitants in all the land.

At the turn of the 20th century, the Arab population west of the Jordan River (today, Israel and the West Bank) was about half a million inhabitants and east of the Jordan River perhaps 200,000.

The collapse of the agricultural system with the influx of nomadic tribes after the Arab conquest that created malarial swamps and denuded the ancient terrace system eroding the soil, was coupled by a tyrannous regime, a crippling tax system and absentee landowners that further decimated the population. Much of the indigenous population had long since migrated or disappeared. Very few Jews or Arabs lived in the region before the arrival of the first Zionists in the 1880s and most of those that did lived in abject poverty.

Most Arabs living west of the Jordan River in Israel, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza are newcomers who came from surrounding Arab lands after the turn of the 20th century because they were attracted to the relative economic prosperity brought about by the Zionist Movement and the British in the 1920s and 1930s.
This is substantiated by eyewitness reports of a deserted country -- including 18th-century reports from the British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, French author and historian Count Constantine Volney (Travels through Syria and Egypt, 1798); the mid-19th-century writings of Alphonse de Lamartine (Recollections of the East, 1835); Mark Twain (Innocents Abroad, 1867); and reports from the British Consul in Jerusalem (1857) that were sent back to London.

The Ottoman Turks' census (1882) recorded only 141,000 Muslims in the Land of Israel. The real number is probably closer to 350,000 to 425,000, since many hid to avoid taxes. The British census in 1922 reported 650,000 Muslims.

Aerial photographs taken by German aviators during World War I show an underdeveloped country composed mainly of primitive hamlets. Ashdod, for instance, was a cluster of mud dwellings, Haifa a fishing village. In 1934 alone, 30,000 Syrian Arabs from the Hauran moved across the northern frontier into Mandate Palestine, attracted by work in and around the newly built British port and the construction of other infrastructure projects. They even dubbed Haifa Um el-Amal ('the city of work').

The fallacy of Arab claims that most Palestinians were indigenous to Palestine -- not newcomers - is also bolstered by a 1909 vintage photograph of Nablus, today an Arab city on the West Bank with over 121,000 residents. Based on the number of buildings in the photo taken from the base of Mount Gerizim, the population in 1909 -- Muslim Arabs and Jewish Samaritans -- could not have been greater than 2,000 residents.

Family names of many Palestinians attest to their non-Palestinian origins. Just as Jews bear names like Berliner, Warsaw and Toledano, modern phone books in the Territories are filled with families named Elmisri (Egyptian), Halabi (Syrian), and Mugrabi (North Africa). Even George Habash -- the arch-terrorist and head of Black September -- bears a name with origins in Abyssinia or Ethiopia, Habash in both Arabic and Hebrew.

The settlers are true to the Zionist ethic of settling the historic Land of Israel, tho homeland of the Jewish people, and the only Jewish state in the world.

They are totally praiseworthy.


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✡Israel Lover✡ †-pray4revival-†
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No, they should be called residence, and the west bank and the Gaza strip should be called Israel.





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