Israel & Palestine?

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last pharaoh

The following is a very short synopsis of the history of this conflict. I recommend that you also read the much more detailed account, " http://ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html "

For 2,000 years there was no such conflict.

The land of Palestine was inhabited by Palestinian Arabs. In 1850 these consisted of approximately 400,000 Muslims, 75,000 Christians, and 25,000 Jews. For centuries these groups had lived in harmony: 80 percent Muslim, 15 percent Christian, 5 percent Jewish.

Zionism
But then in the late 1800s a group in Europe decided to colonize this land. Known as "Zionists," this group consisted of an extremist minority of the world Jewish population. They wanted to create a Jewish homeland, and at first considered locations in Africa and South America, before finally settling on Palestine for their colony.

At first this immigration created no problems. However, as more and more Zionists immigrated to Palestine — many with the express wish of taking over the land for an exclusively Jewish state — the indigenous population became increasingly alarmed. Eventually, there was fighting between the two groups, with escalating waves of violence.

UN Partition Plan
Finally, in 1947 the United Nations decided to intervene. However, rather than adhering to the democratic principle espoused decades earlier by Woodrow Wilson of "self-determination of peoples," in which the people themselves create their own state and system of government, the UN chose to revert to the medieval strategy whereby an outside power arbitrarily divides up other people’s land.

Under considerable pressure from high-placed American Zionists, the UN decided to give away 55 percent of Palestine to a Jewish state — despite the fact that this group represented only about 30 percent of the total population, and owned under 7 percent of the land.

1948 War
When the inevitable war broke out the outcome was never in doubt, according to U.S. intelligence reports from the time. The Zionist army consisted of over 90,000 European-trained soldiers and possessed modern weaponry, including up-to-date fighter and bomber airplanes. The Arab forces, very much a third-world army, consisted of approximately 30,000 ill-equipped, poorly trained men. The U.S. Army, British intelligence, and the CIA all agreed: it would be no contest.

By the end of the 1948 war the Jewish state — having now declared itself "Israel" — had conquered 78 percent of Palestine — far more than that proposed even by the very generous UN partition plan. And three-quarters of a million Palestinians had been made refugees. Over 400 towns and villages had been destroyed, and a new map was being drawn up, in which every city, river and hillock would receive a new, Hebrew name. All vestiges of the Palestinian culture were to be erased. In fact, for many decades Israel — and the US, following its lead — denied the very existence of this population. Golda Meir once said, in fact: "There is no such thing as a Palestinian."

1967 War
In 1967, Israel conquered still more land. Following the Six Day War, in which Israeli forces launched a highly successful, Pearl Harbor-like surprise attack on Egypt, Israel occupied the additional 22 percent of Palestine that had eluded it in 1948 — the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It also occupied parts of Egypt (which since were returned) and Syria (which remain under occupation).

Current Conflict
There are, then, two issues at the very core of the continuing conflict and escalating violence in the Middle East:

First, there is the inevitably destabilizing effect of trying to maintain an ethnically preferential state, particularly when the exclusionist entity is of largely colonial origin. As we have seen, the original population of what is now Israel was 95 percent Muslim and Christian. And yet, Muslim and Christian refugees are not being allowed to return to their homes in the current "Jewish state." Israeli peace negotiators refuse to even discuss the possibility of applying this UN guaranteed right.

Second, Israel’s continued confiscation of Palestinian land in the West Bank and Gaza is being resisted by the Palestinian inhabitants. It is these occupied territories that, according to the Oslo peace accords of 1993, were going to become a Palestinian state. However, when Israel continued to take land in these areas and to move its citizens onto it, the Palestinian population rebelled. This uprising, called the "Intifada" (Arabic for "shaking off") began at the end of September 2000 and continues to this day.

mo mosh

(1) Palestine was a region of the middle east. After the Turks were defeated in World War I, Palestine was chopped up. It is currently divided among:

1. Jordan (75% of Palestine)
2. Israel
3. part of Lebanon
4. part of Syria
5. disputed territories (Judea, Samaria, Gaza)

(2) "Palestine" existed only from the Western and the Jewish perspective. The entire area was under Turkish rule until World War I. As that time the Arabs viewed the whole region as part of Syria, the land of Israel specifically as "Southern Syria" (Suriyya al-Janubiyya)

(3) The Gaza Strip is a totally artificial creation of Egypt and the United Nations. The barrier between Gaza Strip and Israel-proper is simply the ceasefire line from Israel's War of Independence (1949).

Happy101010

Palestine and Israel are pretty much synonymous.

Palestine (from Greek: Παλαιστίνη; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew: ארץ־ישראל‎ Eretz Yisrael, formerly also פלשתינה Palestina; Arabic: فلسطين‎ Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn) is one of several names for the geographic region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River and various adjoining lands.

Different geographic definitions of Palestine have been used over the millennia, and these definitions themselves are politically contentious. The broadest definition of Palestine was that adopted by the British Mandate of Palestine, which included present-day Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The narrowest definition, and the one now current, embraces only the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Other English names for this region include Canaan, Land of Israel, and Holy Land.
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The Gaza StripThe Gaza Strip (Arabic: قطاع غزة‎ transliteration: Qitˁɑ' Ġazzah/Qita' Ghazzah, Hebrew: רצועת עזה‎ Retzu'at 'Azza) is a coastal strip of land along the Mediterranean Sea, bordering Egypt on the south-west and Israel on the north and east. It is about 41 kilometers (25 mi) long, and between 6 and 12 kilometers (4–7.5 mi) wide, with a total area of 360 square kilometers (139 sq mi).

The territory takes its name from Gaza, its main city. It has about 1.4 million Palestinian (or Gazan) residents.[2]

The Strip itself and its population are nominally governed by the Palestinian National Authority, though following the June 2007 battle of Gaza, actual control is in the hands of the de facto government dominated by Hamas. The Gaza Strip is not recognized internationally as part of any sovereign country.

masterjack_98

The land of "Israel" should be split in half. The northern half would be Palestine and the southern half Israel.

In the middle occupying Jerusalem would be the new U.N. HQ with a corridor that divides these lands from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea. Stationed there should be 200,000 man Rapid Reaction Force capable of delivering a serious smack down to ANYONE in the region that acts out of line.

This solution creates peace in the region and gets the U.N. out of New York .

mimia* غزّة العزّة

i'll try to resume:

the palestine before 48 is a country lived by 3 communities (moslems , jewish and christans).
in 48 , the sionists occupied palestine after a war that arab lost and most of real poeple was expelled out of palestine.
then the UN , vote the creation of israel on nearly the half of palestine.

after many wars (67- 73) the created israel occupies more and more territories and continues to invade, destroy, kill and build camps in each place of palestine.

now palestine is reduced to 22% of the real territories in 48 which are full of camp for sionist from al the world.
it's composed of GAZAstrip (50 km of length) and the WESTBANK (about 5800 km2). they are two separeted pieces of paletine (one in the east the other in the west)between them the wall and israel camps. (imagine they want them to create a state ontwo pieces!!!

i hope that i helped to understand .

Marum B

Both Israel & Palestine exited.

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ok it all started in 1948 when groups of jewish armed gangs started attacking palestine some arab nations tried to stop the attacks on palestine but they lost..and they occupied palestine(with the help of europians ofcourse) after they occupied it they offered to the palestinians to give them israeli citizenship regardeless of their religion and to deny that there was a thing called palestine or palestinians (the palestinians were about 3 million people at that time)
1 million accepted the israeli offer and are now israelis..the 2 million who didn't accept the offer were put by israelis 1 million in gaza (under the control of egypt) and the other million in the west bank(under the control of jordon) and a bridge was built between gaza and the west bank but the palestinians kept escaping some how into israel using this bridge and bombing israel from the inside so israel destroyed the bridge and put a wall around gaza and the west bank
the state of palestine is now (gaza+west bank)
in 1967 the arabs also tried to free palestine but with help of america and other foreigne countries and because the arabs were not united (which they are still not united till today) they lost again but this time taking sinai from egypt and part of jordon and golan heights in lebanon

in 1973 egypt and some arab countries again tried to free palestine but this time they regained a part of sinai ..a treaty was intended to be signed between israel and some arab countries, president sadat of egypt went to israel and negotiated for israel to give sinai back and to it to recognize gaza and the west bank as the state of palestine but yasser arrafat'' the palestinian leader'' refused to go to israel and sign the treaty and called el sadat a traitor,,,,so after yasser arafat did that ..israel kept gaza and the west bank and included them in the present israel and removed anything related to palestine ...egypt got sinai back, HOWEVER the golan heights and parts of jordon are still occupied by israelis today

LEE DA

Israel is the figment creation of the west, based on the lost Jewish tribes...

If we base morality on what the west has created then the U must relinquish all its terrotiries to the native americans...

Palestinians inhabited Palestine for over 3000 years after the jewish fled the land..

citibankconme

i am not a jew nor arab. after year 70ce when roman killed jews and destroyed the jerusalem. jews lost the country forever. since than palestine lived there until 1948. when war was over, europians sold it to jews. the jews did not had the country for 2000 year. they freakin bought the country. i think the isreali should give back the place to palestine the real owner.

C.J.

1. Palestine was a country
2. Depends on who you ask, in antiquity Israel and Philistine lived side by side until they clashed and spun propaganda about one another ever since, Modern Israel's creation however happened after that of Palestine, some people try to make a point that they were Syrians (this is true, because the entire Levant called themselves Syrians/Arabs and recognized their own groups based on region and ancestors, it wasn't until westerners came in that these groups became separated nations)
3. Gaza is the heart of the Palestinian homeland, at present the Israeli Prime Minister decided to trap Gazans in Gaza through blockade at an attempt to defeat groups of Palestinians who fight for rights and a homeland, either entirely back or half way, yet he ignores the other people that have nothing to do with the conflict. Gaza is among the most populated strips of land in the world with almost 2000 people every km2 (I can guarantee there is a lot more peaceful people then terrorists)

Lina the dragon

I was trying to understand the relationship of Palestinians & the Israelis for a very long, I cannot understand both sides & I do not agree on both sides & since we are talking about it I do not agree with many of the Arab/middleast countries not looking into the matters seriously. To console myself - I read the book about Salahdin & learn about the man. Sorry I cannot answer this questions properly. I could if I want to, but I am writing about something else.

How am I to say the west are the only responsible party to be blame for what is happenening there? The people there have to look after their own matters first & they are together, it will not be blown out of propotion - as far as I am concern both parties have their own agendas &trying to let the rest of the world into supporting their own agendas & at the moment I refused to believe, to buy either sides until they resolve their differences - eventually everyone will die one day, so why do they need to kill one another - they are the same people - religion did not separated them! At the moment it seems that the Israelis have the winning hands, but history has shown, the time will come, the Palestinians will win the land over to them again. It will go on and on till the end of this world. It has changed hands after hands to those who rule/d the land.

They created the problems themselve since the dawn of time - the same people with different believes (and they are not even fighting about their religions anymore, about other things and don't lie to me about it) and no nations are sincere enough in helping them to overcome their so called dispute.

The history showed only when a great leader come to rule who will not bias in religions or races - the land will have some peaceful moment & belong to everyone - they can taste some understanding harmony. And for how long, I don't know, when will it come, I don't know.

My learning only base on history, the future only God Almighty know. I am just His servant. Those who believe God & defying the will of God, all they get is suffering - read in in acient history book.

Then again I am a dragon - I have live for thousands of years, I have the memories of so many things...hahahaha...

bgood26

1. "Palestine" has never, ever, been a country. It has always been a region within other empires (Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman). In fact, "Palestinians" didn't exist until 1967.

2. See above.

3. Gaza was annexed by Egypt after the War for Independence. Egypt lost this land as a result of the Six Day War of 1967. Suddenly, "Palestinians" existed, and have been lying about their history -- and drawing world sympathy -- ever since.

m i

1&2: Palestine is neither a nation nor a community, it is a place. Before 1948, it encompassed all of what is now considered Israel as well as the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Israel occupied in a war in 1967.

In 1948, the founders of Israel forcibly expelled most of the people from their cities, towns and villages which were in what became Israel, using a lot of massacres, threats of massacre, going into villages and selecting a few people to execute and ordering the rest out at gunpoint, and even using biological agents to spread sickness. A lot of the "Palestinian refugees" ended up in the Gaza, as small strip of Palestine along the southern coast. Something like 2/3 of the people in Gaza are refugees, those who fled in the 1948 war and their descendants. Consequently, Gaza is one of the most crowded places on earth and since Israel confiscated all the property they left behind, land, businesses, money and goods, they're pretty impoverished as well.

When Israel conquered the West Bank and Gaza, it continued to expel people from their homes, demolish villages, and confiscate their land and property, and brutally crush any opposition to its policy. This continues to this day.

samsproudmommy

1. palestine was the name that the ancient romans gave to judea after they conqured it. until the establishment of israel in 1948 it was called by this name by whatever country was occupying it at the time. today, the arabs who left right before the establishment of israel call themselves palestinians, as does anyone who was born there before the establishment of israel.
2. see above
3. the gaza strip is a piece of land on the coast of israel that the israelis won in a war they didnt start and then settled. ariel sharon gave it back to the plo in hopes of peace. the israelis left the infrastructure intact, the palistinians destroyed it. today it is used by terrorist to not only smuggle in weapons but to fire almost daily kassam rockets into israel. in recent news, israel has blockaded it in response to rockets that were directed at israeli schools and daycares.

rosends

palestine was the name of a region in the mid east given by syrian greeks to de-judify the area when they took over almost 2000 years ago. it has never been a country. in fact, the jews and christians who lived there before 1948 must be considered "palestinians" if any one is.

after 1948, the place became (as a country) "Israel". Major arab leaders have been quoted as saying that an entity called "palestine" did not exist.

the gaza strip is an area which israel captured, gave back, captured, gave back, captured and recently gave back again. Israel doesn't want it, but every time Israel gives it back, Arabs attack israel from it so israel has to invade to protect itself.

jdriven

I'd like to comment but I can't stop laughing at Peter.

peter k

OK lets see
[1] its just a community.....Kinda like the Salvation Army
[2] It does created in Germany by jews who exploited them an locked them up in convents
[3] gaza strip is kinda like a new york one only its better its PORK

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