Israel Vs. Palestine?

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rundevilrun

The people of Palestine will obtain their freedom from the neo-colonialists before twenty years is out.

marry w

The native people of the world have won in most former colonies.
From India to South Africa and last was East Timor.

Ma'akum

In terms of a two-state solution; i.e. a State of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza, Obama is totally committed to that. As far as recovering the rest - the other 78.5% - that might take a few decades. But it will happen.

Sahar ♥Free Palestine♥

Palestine will be free, Insha'Allah...but no one wins wars. Wars aren't won.

Will Smith

It took Muslims much more than that until Salahuddin showed up.

Palestine is for the Palestinians. It's only a matter of time, full stop.

Shadi

Palestinian people will !!!

This colonial project "Israel" was set up in the region to spread and to take more lands by endless wars. But this changed and now zionists are only trying to keep what they stole. As previously stated by that zionist Olmert:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=69404&sectionid=351020202

If you take a look at zionist wars you will find that recently they are trying to fake victories to save their reputation which they built by lies and propaganda for the past decades.. They "defeated" some Arab armies in what was more likely to be a conspiracy than a real battle. Last 2 wars(Lebanon and Gaza) came as shock to these zionists when they finally saw what their real army looks like. Now they know that their army cannot keep that stolen land for long...

Adding to that the big change in the public opinion towards this conflict and specially after Gaza aggression which opened many eyes on the reality of zionists. In other words, these zionists lost their mask and showed their real satanic face to the world.

All these factors mentioned above are clear signs of their close end!

I also noticed some ignorant people here calling 60 years a miracle! lol. They need to look up this word in dictionary before posting it. Also they need to go back to their Bible. They should also go to history and read about some historical colonial projects which lasted much more and fall like a domino pieces...

JayJay

israel is not capable of winning, it has been fighting one of the poorest countries ever for 60 years, with all their weapons, tanks, rockets, america, and their cold hearts...and yet..they didn't win.

Ella

Palestine will be free.

^ PaLo ^

Written by a Jewish person
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The occupation of palestine must end. There are two compelling reasons for this. First, we wish to preserve the best part of our Jewish heritage—a deeply-ingrained sense of morality—and pass it on to the next generation, unsullied by the mistreatment of another people. We were brought up to believe that, as Jews, we are obligated to always take the moral high road and we can’t imagine letting this proud ethical tradition die now.

Second, we are convinced that the only way to ensure the security of the people of Israel is for their government to conclude a just peace with the Palestinians. Without some reasonable version of justice being done, there will never be peace, and so we oppose any Israeli government policy that denies the Palestinians their legitimate rights.

Is this position “anti-Jewish”? No, it is not (any more than criticizing U.S. government policies is anti-American.) Even as we love all of humanity, we have a special love for the Jewish people and for the warm and compassionate side of Jewish culture. We share with all Jews the trauma of the genocide of our people by the Nazis and our long history of periodic persecution. We understand the instinct to “circle the wagons” when our people face danger, and we long for the day when Jews in Israel, as everywhere, will be able to lead normal, secure, productive lives. The question is how will that happy day come about? By blindly supporting the Israeli government’s self-destructive path to war and more war? We don’t think so.

Unfortunately, the ongoing violence in Palestine and Israel has led too many people, on both sides, to adopt blanket stereotypes of one another, turning them into something “less-than-human”. This process of dehumanization then allows people to justify the violence committed by their own side, starting the cycle all over again. This is a classic “lose-lose” situation that can continue on forever.

Is there a way out of this mess? Yes, we think so, but only if we suspend our understandable reaction of automatically blaming the other side. Only then can we objectively assess the root causes of the conflict and the realistic choices there are for resolving it.

Divine Creation

The original people of course, when the US goes to depression they won't aid Israel. Thus, Palestine will win when this happens....

EDIT: This is to all the people who are ignorant about the fact that Palestine's are the real Jews....

More than 70% of Jewish men and half of the Arab men whose DNA was studied inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors who lived in the region within the last few thousand years.

The results match historical accounts that Moslem Arabs are descended from Christians and Jews who lived in the southern Levant, a region that includes Israel and the Sinai.
http://bric.postech.ac.kr/science/97now/00_10now/001030a.html

Lebanese Muslims are mostly descendants of Christians:

The scientists also found …But they emphasis that the differences between the two communities are minor, and that Christians and Muslim Arabs in Lebanon overwhelmingly share a common heritage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7316281.stm

EDIT: I mean Israelites, not jews..... You do not have to be Jewish to be an Israelite. They WERE jewish , but not anymore.

Warren S

If Israel wins, then also do the Palestinians. A two state solution is the only answer. For those wishing that Israel will disappear, it will not happen. Deal with fact rather than fiction.

Ken Wish

well rich.n the answer to that question depends on whether the youth of tday absorb the same false propoganda that the youth of the 60.s/70,s swallowed.tink about it. no vietnam/no attempted invasion of cuba no korean war.i could name numerous wars/if this world was absent of the usa+israel our history books of conflict would be a fraction of volume than they are now.

bart s

hopefully there won't be a "winner", but rather an agreement
for Israel, peace would be a victory
For Hamas, Israel's destruction would be a victory

Arieh

It's not a boxing match. The lack of peace over most of the last 60 years had nothing to do with the Palestinians. It's had to do with sovereign Arab nations who wanted to destroy Israel. Israel has peace with two of them. Palestinian and Hezbollah terror are more of a nuisance than a real threat to the existence of the State of Israel, not like the threats from Syria and Iran Those are the real enemies.

Peace in our time

Just for Israel to still exist after 60 years is a miracle considering how many people/governments want her destroyed. Israel cannot afford to lose any war. The Arabs will kill all the Jews.

dandyl

The Jewish people got their land back, they got back what was always there's, it has been there's for over 3000 years.The Jewish people are the natives of the land.

† Thorae † is Pro-Israeli

Well that is sure a biased question.
Jews have been living in Palestine before Islam was a religion. During the period of emporer Nero, it is estimated that there were 700,000 Jews in Palestine. That is circa 4 A.D.
Just about 696 years before Islam was a religion.

50% of Jews in Israel are native to Palestine- about 20-30% are immigrants from other countries and the rest are Muslims or Christians.

kismet

Jews are the native people of Israel.

According to Arab-American columnist Joseph Farah,
"Palestine has never existed - before or since - as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire, and briefly by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland. There was no language known as Palestinian. There was no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a Palestine governed by the Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc."

As to who will 'win'; how do we define victory, and how are we to know what the future holds?

meansweryou

arabs are not native to israel.
there was a kingdom of the jews in the land of israel.

about that DNA thing, it might be true because both jews and arabs are semites.
but their history doesnt belong in israel.

"The scientists also found …But they emphasise that the differences between the two communities are minor, and that Christians and Muslim Arabs in Lebanon overwhelmingly share a common heritage."

arabs became muslims by the Islam conquests and later some became christians by the crusaders.
there is no reason they wont have different heritage.

"This is to all the people who are ignorant about the fact that Palestine's are the real Jews"

what make them jews ? IF and i emphesize IF they USED to be the original jews why dont they believe in the jewish beliefs ?

Kevin S

Native? Arab conquest does not mean native. They have founda 10% sub saharan DNA linegaes in palestinian arabs (Very common in Saudi Arabia due to slavery).

http://kinoko.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~duraid/stolen_science/The_Origin_of_Palestinians_and_Their_Genetic_Relatedness_With_Other_Mediterranean_Populations.pdf

Global View relationship chart clearly says that

Palestinian arabs are closer to lebanese then they are to mizrachi jews or ashkenazi jews. They are also close to morrocan Jews (whom are not close to other kinds of Jews). In addition according to this chart Jews both ashkenazi and not are not that close to Lebanese jews.

When they say last 1000 years, they mean they have the same haplogroup or haplotype meaning from the same region. Lebanese are related to Jews within the last 1000 years.......which make sense.....ask yourself how old islam is.

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