Jews working on shabbat?

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Shay p

Hotels that are certified kosher have a skeltal crew of none Jews that work on the Shabbat.
Just about every hotel other than hostels are likely to be kosher, kashrut rules will apply. The bigger hotels will have a Shabbat lift, as Judeaism does not allow work on Shabbat and completing an electrical circuit is one such thing that is forbidden. Ditto food - thus food that requires heating is prepared prior to Shabbat and kept warm throughout the time. Eggs, for example, can be boiled as long as the water they are boiled in is kept constantly hot.

One T

Rosends gave you a correct answer.

If it is needed(for a big passover dinner or Shabbat in a hotel for example) then it can be done.

There are a few conditions though:

1. That the waiters do not do anything that is forbidden on Shabbat(simply serving people at a table is not forbidden) such as lighting fire, cooking, writing down orders etc'.

2. That the waiters won't be paid on Shabbat itself since dealing with money is forbidden on Shabbat.

3. That the waiters get paid only for their work on Friday(before Shabbat) and/or Saturday night(after Shabbat). This means that they have to be there before and/or after Shabbat to help set up the tables or something because they cannot be paid for work on Shabbat itself. This also means that the employer has to pay them much more money for their work before or after Shabbat so it will be worthwhile for them to work and so that they wouldn't be getting money for something they did on Shabbat.

This shouldn't be done with any type of work but if you saw Jews serving tables, there is absolutely no problem with it if it is done correctly and it probably was because the place is certified Kosher.

Kimimela-PRO ISRAEL AND PROUD

ok - there are religious jews and there are non religious jews ... not all jews take shabbat ( yes - it is shabbat -NOT sabbath ! ) off work , just like not all christians go to church on sunday...

There are lots of hotels in tel aviv and many of them cater for non religious, western tourists who dont keep shabbat. Tel aviv especially is quite a secular place, and friday night and saturday nights are big nights for clubbing and going out for many israelis

israel is no differant from any christian country. Some people are religious - some arnet. and the ones that arent will happily work on holy days...

And the kosher lable surely would apply to the standard of food, not the degree of religious obvervance of the employees would it not ?

ishnichmad

i was once working on friday night changing a jet engine in israel and injured my hand.I was sent to hospital and had it x-rayed and the nurse said she always thought they were the only ones that had to work!
its only when something like this happens that you realize that there are people that have to work 24 7.electricity and water have to be maintained, the army and police.the airport has to be open for foreign flights.etc there's a whole army of people at work.and its all perfectly kosher!

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first of all it would be open, they can't kick everyone out! and that's it's kosher doesn't mean it's religious, it just caters to religious people. i don't know how exactly it goes, i haven't ever been in a hotel over shabbat, maybe they have gentiles working for them...

rosends

there will indeed be religious jews "working" but it is important to remember that the english "work" and the hebrew "melacha" for forbidden actions are not synonymous. Every camp that has counselors and waiters on shabbos, and every passover program that has jews working the tables and helping the guests has confronted this. through the use of certain loopholes and rabbinic explanation, the jews "working" make sure not to break any of the prohibitions and don't get "paid" for their actions. to discuss the details, simply call a kosher caterer and ask how it is done.

I'll bet there were some cops and firemen about as well. They can't very well close the hospitals.
I use to volunteer for holiday duty to get extra pay where I came from. Different holidays. Same thing though.
Someone ask to work.
How do you know all the people working were Jews?

Chani M

well some people who aren't so orthodox might work on shabbat i mean certain kinds or jobs youre aloud to work on shabbat (like a doctor my older sis is a dictor and she works on shabbat becaus well you could be saving a life or something) a lot of the time back in the early 1900s when jews came to america a lot of them worked on shabbat because people wouldn't hire them unless they worked on saturday. its very unfortuanate but it happens its their dicition and they chose to work on shabbat but maybe there a reason you should always give them people the benefit of the doubt because no one really knows someone plans or intentions or reasons except god and his is the one that counts so i don't why they were oh and it depedns also maybe theyre working but not really doing anything you can't do on shabbat i don't and maybe theyre not orthodox

L'Chaim!

Not all Jews are observant.

devora k

It is usually observed by Orthodox Jews so the people you saw working were not

Arieh

I'll bet that only one elevator in the hotel is working and that one is set on "automatic" to stop at every floor. G-d understands that some people must work on Shabbat (although the ultra-orthodox don't see it that way). They wouldn't care if the army or the police took the day off too. The first question that they ask a police candidate is that if they have a problem working on Shabbat. Yes, to work on Shabbat is a sin, but G-d didn't plan on hotels when he gave the Torah to Moses.

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unfortunately Israelis are losing a lot of religion. Namely because of the Russian immigrants [they were forced to relinquish their faith during communistic russia]. While many including me will not work on Shabbat, many still do.

Positive P

You can call and ask but dont do it in shobes.

HopelessZ00

I remember the uproar in Canada years ago over Sunday shopping. Money after all is more important than religion in today's world. You'll get used to it. Cheers!

CHEAZPUFF

umm do u mean sabath?

Gondola Girl

I'm sure it's fine. Jews can work any day.

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