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Ruby

What do u think of men marrying US citizens just to go to USA?

Seeing as this subject has been brought up manytimes in this section, I'm posting it here. I know it is not only Egyptian men who commit such an act, but many of them are just finding it a way of getting out of their country in search of the so-called American dream. They take advantage of naive women and make them think they're in love with them (while they're only in love with their citizenship) so they can be legal residents. They would even go for divorced women with kids or women who are much older to them (to westerners- this is very untraditional in the middle east unlike in the west) I have seen/heard of many failing examples of men, Egyptians and non-Egyptians, who have done that. Not only are they taking advantage of the woman they marry and deceiving her, but they're also ruining their life and spending a big part of it with some1 they don't love and eventually end up being divorced. I personally think that such undecent men r half-men who have no pride in themselves.
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Some ppl excuse them cuz of the harsh circumstances they face in their own country. But is there really an excuse for doing this? If ppl cant find what they dream of in their own country and wish to find it abroad, they can still make their dream come true but in a decent,non-deceiving way, not just go online and chat with an american or european citizen and next day make her think he's in love with her. Also, I don't blame it only on the man,but also on the women who are despearate,stupid,and naive enough to believe he's in love with her. A very close person to me is going through this and I don't know what to do with her, she wouldn't listen no matter how much I clarify things to her :((

    



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fatma
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hey beautiful

i believe everything you said.. and what you have just written has also.. made me think even more.. thankyou for posting this question you are opening peoples mind us..

i also think that it is a dusgusting thing that people do... they have no respect for themselves and the people that they are harming.. yes harming when people do things like this they are harming others!!!

if someone does really love someone they met on the net and want to marry them.. they should go the country that they are living in and get the visa /citizen ship before asking for that persons hand in marriage and that way it will be loyal.. and / or they can get married and stay living in the counrty they already are in....

i hate ppl that do those things and i am 100% against al this stuff!! it doesn not only happen in egypt but all over the world!!

thankyou once again for posting this question!


S&S
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ugh!!! u just reminded me of what i live through every single freaking day!! i am middle eastern and i am a U.S citizen and i have been asked by many men to marry them and these men are back in my home country, i don't even know them!! they say stuff like they want to marry me because they know my dad is a good man and we are a good family and they want to marry into it, bullshit!! it gets me so pss'd off because i want to marry for true love but these stupid men come and play with girl's minds and marry them and ruin their life all because they are selfish, but u know i can't do nothing about it, 7isabhom 3nd allah, and i hope they pay the price for this...


sabrina
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i think its immoral and should surely be against every religious law, what ever the religion. and it is not just American women many European women get the same.
you could argue the women are getting something from the relationship but in my experience they only thing they get is a broken heart. The problem as you well know ruby is that many western women dont realise they are being lied to. Yes they are naive, yes they are gullible, but the men do seem to know exactly what to say. And most European women are not used to this kind of treatment and believe what they are being told. if its not a passport they want then its cash and i have heard many horror stories on my visits and seen several Egyptian men get rich very quickly. i can only think of one way to describe these men and that is male prostitutes, because that is what they are.
and yes wally women do it too.


Kalooka
desperate or delusional or deceiver
or a combination of some or all the above mentioned qualities


Adel
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First of all, as a Muslim I would like to say that any man who follows this kind of practice is going against the teachings of Islam, and is asking for trouble.

But let me just say some things in general since you didn't specify that it was Muslim men, but that it was Middle Easterners(who could be Muslim, Christian, or something else). Obviously, if a man is marrying a lady merely because of her citizenship in a certain country, then he is setting himself up for lots of pain and a big mess down the road. So don't worry about them, because surely they will experience misery and regret later on. Because once the kids come around and issues come up then his true colors will probably come out.

I feel sorry for those women that fall for men like that. Those kids of men, like you said, are indecent and actually cowardly and selfish. But we should be careful not to judge other people's intentions.... it could be that the woman's citizenship is just one reason, not the only reason. In this case, if the man found the lady to be compatible in all other areas and to be a good and righteous woman then I think it's OK. The fact is, it is incredibly difficult for Middle Eastern men to immigrate and become US citizens nowadays. And can we blame them if they would be interested in coming to the US? The economic situation in the Middle East is not very promising right now. Did you know that in countries like Egypt it is very difficult for most young men to afford apartments and to support wives. Did you know that divorce laws are becoming unfair towards men in Egypt? A lot of these men over there probably feel helpless. But of course I'm not justifying that they marry an American woman just for her citizenship. However, for those men who believe in the American dream but would otherwise have no other ways to come to America it's a tempting option. And I feel that if they are going to be responsible and love their American wife and treat her right, then in that case it should be OK.

The family and friends of the lady should be the ones who are on the look-out for signs of a husband who has ulterior motives. They should advise the lady if they see that this man may be looking to divorce her in the future. For example, if the man is much younger than the woman, as you said, that is a sign. Also, if the man has a much lower socioeconomic level than the lady then that is a sign also. And there are other signs too - so I think the lady's parents should go and meet the potential husband first.

So to wrap this up, I think that men who are looking to marry US citizens just to come to the USA are sleazeballs, and that in one way or another they'll have to pay for their actions. As economists would say, there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.


North Sun
i agree with Kakoola!


hasafer
I think it's very bad and 7aram , it's like committing adultery .
he is harming the girl , the children , and himself .


Wally Y
Women do it too. From the Russias, South America, Mexico, Asia. All are looking for a better life and if it means marrying a man from America to get it, they will try it.


mesho f
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in the poor countries like Egypt, you should expect man to do anything to change his life ,from bad to be little bad.
in general marriage occur for some reasons from the followings:
love
business
better life for both or one
good sex
get something lost......etc


~ Noha ~
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Lack of manners
Lack of religion
Meaness
.............................. is the answer


kthor101
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lol if those females are smart, they would start charging those people at least $10k for marrying them .. good business


ROONY
dear ruby this problem i faced,a man i know who is relative to me know a girl related to his wife want me to marry that girl and she hold the US citizenship ,he tried to convince me to marry her and leave to the US but i don't care about the citizenship ,every man try to do something like that he is a loser


Tracy But
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lots of people have wrong reason to get married.

1) someone for citizenship, move to better place, and maybe UAE or whatever.
2) someone is for money, the man can take are of them, and they may be just lazy, because they don't want to work.
3) just to be married. some women are afraid to be alone, and they don't love but just get married to be married.

you need to be fortunate to have a good relationship, because right person, right time, right place, and right mood to do so. and there is not easy.


HAPA CHIC
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From what I see more women marry us citizens to get into the country .
Have you heard of russian and fillipino mail order brides look it up on the internet you'll also find some very sad stories of women using the men after they get their citizenships and leaving those guys


a
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This is against all religion and moral codes. These men are very bad. I feel so angry when I think of them.

I recently made a holiday to Egypt to recover from an illness, and such 'men' were trying to con me in such a way.

Now I'm not niave just paranoid and bitter LOL so I didn't fall fall such a con, but it is still very HURTFUL and INSULTING.
It makes me feel like a joke, like they think am not aware that I'm nolonger beautiful and young, but they rub it in that I am also stupid, to fall for such a trcick and a lose woman to make 'friends' with a strange woman.

By trying it on with older western women these men are showing that they have no respect for these women, and treating them as objects.


LeeLee
hEY, I WoULDn'T bE HErE tODAy If My gREAt gRANdMa DIdN't MArrY MY gRNADPA (who was a usa citizen) that's how she got over here from the Islands!!!!!
Hey men who use woman though, that isn't cool but GOD will deal with them in time!
Woman should not rush into marriage or love so quick anyways??????????????
There's a Good and Bad result out of this but every case is different depending on if it the true peerson or a liar!


petey00petey
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What do u think of men marrying US citizens just to go to USA?----its illegal


desperado 5
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you cant trust them


dreamz
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yes, it is illegal and very wrong-such usuary!



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