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What is zionist's definition of victory?

Do they measure it by the size of destruction which they make and innocent souls which they take?Or by the goals which they achieve?
I am referring to their last aggression on Lebanon and Gaza

    



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Shadi
By the size of destruction and bodies they leave behind them! Because they never had the guts to fight like men, they went attacking innoncent children and women! Many proudly admited killing children and women and actually enjoyed it !!!

On this section you can see how hard they are trying to keep their lies alive! Even if they know very well that no one believes them anymore!!!

chief military rabbi, gave zionist soldiers fighting in Gaza pamphlets urging them to show no mercy to Palestinian people:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7...

(when the LORD thy God shall deliver (your enemies) b4 thee; thou shalt smite them, & utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them nor shew mercy unto them)
(thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars & break down their images & cut down their groves & burn their graven images with fire)
(these zionists abused God's words)
Deuteronomy 7:1-6

The real number of civilian victims :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090326/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

The testimonies of zionist soldiers about what really happened:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7...

zionist army using Palestinians as Human Shields:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjEd4hJNV...

zionist soldiers wearing T-Shirts with violent cartoons showing pregnant Arab women in the cross-hairs of a sniper's sight with the legend "1 shot 2 kills", and a child being similarly targeted with the slogan "the smaller they are, the harder it is". and other images which prove their inhumanity:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7960071.stm

zionist soldier shoots a pro-Palestinian protester:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBP4pkn48...

zionist soldiers shooting arrested blindfolded Palestinian:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8p8S3WuE...

zionist soldiers abuse Palestinian kid :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgRdDpiry...

zionist soldier: "They are animals, we are humans"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSyP6IPbu...

ex zionist soldiers speaking about the reality of their army:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

First understand their ideologies and then you will understand how they define victory! They never achieved any of their announced goals and beside of all destruction and killing they made, they were forced by Palestinian and Lebanise tough resistance which managed to drive zionists out of their lands!!!


marry w
Zionist's definition of victory is to keep the holy land a war zone forever.Peace is the missing link in any Zionist Victory.
Look at all Israeli war history none brought peace most brought more wars. From 1948 war to Gaza war.


Will Smith
If it's measured by the size of destruction and extermination, they are always victorious.
If it's measured in terms of goals achieved, their *** were badly kicked in Gaza and Lebanon.


Ma'akum
The level of destruction and death. Nominally the goal in 2006 was to destroy Hezbollah but they must have known they would simply stay in their bunkers. They killed 2000 people in air attacks. It was the same in Gaza. Hamas remains in power but nearly 1500 people are dead. In both cases great emphasis was also put on destruction of infrastructure.


Ferrari Enzo
Kill each and every Arab alive in the area, destroy their homes, dehumanise, degrade and steal what ever they can get their hands on.

Uncle Sam is more than happy to help make their dream a reality


Citizen for a Just Peace
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The body count. Plus their own dearth of casualties.


Ella
In 2001 the "Grand Rabbi" of Jerusalem called for the sterilization of every Arab on earth. That it illustrative of their idea of ultimate victory: genocide on an unprecedented scale.


rundevilrun
It is defined in terms of how many women of child-bearing age are killed and their offspring along with them. Females and children are obviously the primary targets. The idea is to kill off what Zionists consider to be future "terrorists".


John E
Here my friend, this is my personal thoughts about Zionism and how wrong this theory is:
http://paste2.org/p/172450
I can assure you it is not copy-paste and it has been corrected by my American born wife of mine.
Greetings


Duane
Another gore-fest for the world press to politely look askance at briefly followed by no further references to it.


Ruth Aravah, JPA
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answer: lasting peace when the PA actually holds up its end of the agreements at Oslo - not teaching their children to become suicide bombers, not preaching to kill all Jews from their mosques; not using schools, mosques and private homes to hide their bombs and weapons in

By NOT sending over 2,000 rockets into Israel in the last 3 years


NONAME
when you kill more than 1000 babies.... That is a victory.


berkeleyjake
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I don't think we really even need the term Zionist anymore. Zionism is the international movement spurred by Jews trying to establish a Jewish Homeland in Israel. Well, look at that. We've got it now! I'm just a really patriotic Israeli.
So, Zionism has its victory. Now as an Israeli and a Israeli Soldier; my definition of victory is peace. This can be achieved in 2 ways. A 2 state solution will be drawn up, not the 67 borders, smaller because of the time they wasted fighting the occupation and refusing to accept the 2 state solution. Following the 2 state solution, they live in peace.
The second way is they keep fighting, keep losing, and keep dying, and if that goes on forever, they will eventually not have enough people to fight and it will end that way.
So now the ball is in their court. What they do with it is completely up to them


THE TRUTH IS HOLY
The definition of victory according to Zionism is to spread truth and love and honesty and justice. Zionism is a 3.350 year old philosophy based on the principle that there is One G-d and that He Wants His Chosen People to use their gift of the Holy Land to be a center of goodness and her people to be A Light Unto The Nations. Zionism is both the oldest nationalism movement in the world and the oldest movement emphasizing the Brotherhood and Sisterhood of Humanity. Victory would be the defeat of terrorism and the ushering in of the next phase of The Messianic Age which reached the penultimate level in 1948 and which will conclude when all nations look to Israel as to how to teach "the lion to lie down with the lamb" and how to spread Peace to all mankind.


dandyl
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Victory for a zionist is to see as many Jewish people returning to their homeland ,Israel and its victory would also be to continue to support the modern state of Israel.They would also see victory as Israel being left alone for the rest of the world to recognize her, as a country.
As apposed to the Arab terrorist groups, who want to destroy Israel and all her citizens, who measure their success by the number of Citizens they murder, Zionism is not violent at all, zionist people do not want to harm anyone, they want to be left alone, but will do what ever it takes to protect their only country and all her citizens.


Arieh
Every day that Israel survives as a sovereign nation is a victory. Everyday that the Palestinians do not have a state of their own is also perceived as a victory. Only Israel would not base the definition of victory as you suggest ("innocent souls which they take"). I must believe that there is still some humanity left in the country that I love.


The First Dragon
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The Zionists' definition of victory, by its behavior, seems to be: "Our neighbors will stop bombing and shooting at us."


jd
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The protection of the civilians.


tambovi
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By the goals they achieve,of course.
Afer Israel,in answer to arrogant kidnapping and murder of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah hit it in July of 2006,not a single rocket fell on israeli territory and not a single shot was fired by the "fearless fghters of Allah" from Hezbollah since 2006.Hezbollah sits over Litany River,where israel drove her,quietly as a mouse,and even the strike on Hamas did not make Hezbollah dare to intervene.
So,it´s clear that in clash with Hezbollah the vctory of Israel-both political and militar- was complete.
In the clash with Hamas it was not so.Yes,Isral beseiged Gaza,yes Israel killed over 700 Hamas fighters,yes Israel drove Hamas fighters like rabbits and destroyed practically all the Hamas infrastructure of terror:tunnels,workshops of "Qsssam" rockets,rocket platforms...All this is so,and of course militarily,Israel beat Hamas up.
But Israel did not stop completely the rocket attacks ,although reduced their number to 3 or 4 a day,while before the Cast Lead operation Hamas daily launched on Israeli cities 25-30 rockets.
Also,Israel,even in alliance with Egypt,USA,and European Union,could not cut off arms smuggling by Hamas,whch means tht in some 6 months,Hamas will stockpile enuough weapons to think it is ready to fight Israel.So,politically it looks like a draw,which of course can not satisfy neiter Israel nor Hamas and means the new round in the nearest future.


rosends
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the definition is the existence of the state of israel. every day that israel exists, zionists win. anti zionists condone attacks against israel specifically because the mere existence of israel irritates them.


mir miron
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Israels victory ??? but both Hezbollah and Hamass claimed they won, that Israel lost !!! so why do you need an explanation.


Lord Percy
zionist believe in settling in israel that's all


Kevin S
So Hezbollah fires rockets at northern Israel injures several soldiers steals a couple.........and they are not aggressors? The PLO attacks Israel by killing 37 civilians and they are not the aggressors?

If you def. of an aggressor is defense, then yes the zionists are the aggressors.

If you come at me with a knife.....I might take it away from you and stab you. Was I the aggressor because I hurt you more?


Teez
2 cans of food for the price of one


Michael B
The zionist definition of victory is peace. They attempted to stop the 10,000 missiles that have been launched from Gaza over the last 8 years without fighting.

However, since the missiles continued and made life crazy for over 100,000 people that live in major cities that were targeted, they had to do something to stop them.

The zionists have been the cause of two peace treaties, between Egypt and Israel, and between Jordan and Israel. They also provide medical care freely to Gaza and the West Bank.

However, this is what they get in return:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f--2dpS7HdY





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