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What percent of jews would you say support zionism?

I know there are many sects. that are totally against zionsim, are they only a minority?
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I thought orthodox jews were agianst zionsim too?

    



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Super Jew
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Yeah - I'd say anti-Zionist Jews are pretty much on the fringes. The vast majority of secular and Reform Jews are pro-Israel, as are the majority of orthodox Jews. That being said, there may be a sizeable minority of non-Zionist orthodox Jews, but that's not the same as being "totally against Zionism". What I mean is maybe they don't feel it was time to re-establish Jewish soverignty in the Land of Israel (you must understand: ALL orthodox Jews want to see an Israel under Jewish rule - the only disagreement is regarding how soon), but most of those Jews, now that Israel is a reality, they don't want to see it destroyed.

No, actively anti-Zionist Jews (and I don't know where you're getting "many sects" from - personally I can think of one or two) are a minority within a minority. That is to say that, other than a handful of Jewish communists or other heretics, they're primarily found among orthodox Jewry, who in turn are a minority among the Jewish people (sadly). The only reason you've heard of them is because they get a disproportionate amount of press coverage - so much for the Zionist media conspiracy.

So again, the majority of Jews are Zionists. Of those Jews who aren't Zionist, the majority are what I would call Zionist-neutral. That is, they're not necessarily supportive of the Israeli Government, but they don't want to see it destroyed. The remainder, the anti-Zionist Jews, are out on the fringes of Jewish society. The idea that liberal Jews are Zionists while religious Jews automatically oppose Zionism as a matter of principle is an increasingly common misconception. There are far more "Religious Zionists" than there are anti-Zionist Jews.

Sorry to burst your bubble if you were looking for a friend in Neturei Karta. There's like maybe a dozen of them, and apparently they go spend all their time going around making kissy faces with murderous dictators. And any Jews who openly embrace people who participate in or advocate the killing of other Jews are pretty much outcasts to the rest of us, the same way someone who betrays his country be giving support or comfort to that country's enemy is a traitor. Personally, I'm of the school of thought that holds that traitors ought to be hanged. But in the case of anti-Semitic Jews, I guess kareis ("excommunication") would suffice.

EDIT: Oooh, controversy, I like that. Is it because I said that actively anti-Zionist Jews are a fringe minority (which is true)? Or is it because I said that treason should be punishable by death (my opinion - and not a terribly controversial one, since in most countries that's how they punish treason)?


Mr. X
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only 1/10th of 1% of jews don't support zionism, which means they don't support israel. the vast majority of all jews, including most orthodox jews, support israel.


red.tullips
98%


BUSH/ISRAEL =warcriminal
Most of the jews especially the ones in Israel support zionism.
Yes i have to say it is a minority thats why it would be nescesary to get rid of the criminal regime once and for all in the near future.
Peace


Quantrill
The vast majority support Israel those that don't are so small in number as to be insignificant.


Hatikvah JPA
Don't forget that Zionism is a political movement, NOT a religious movement. Just because Jews support the State of Israel does not mean they all think ownership of the land is a God-given right! Even Reform Jews support Israel and its right to exist, but they definitely don't support Israel's every move. Politics is politics. Check out the number of parties in the Israeli political system. There are many, many opinions about the way forward for the State of Israel.
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kismet
A tricky question.
It depends on how you define Zionism.
If you define it as a political movement, I would GUESS that perhaps 50% of Jews support Zionism.
If you define Zionism as the love of Israel, the belief that Israel is the Jewish homeland, then I would have to say that 99% of Jews support Zionism.


Whoo!
Orthoodox Jews aren't typically "agaisnt" it but they believe when Messiah comes, he'll take care of it. Something along those lines. Oh, and that "boycott Israel" just shows how stupid and naive you really are.


Habib
There is a line between Religion & Politics but it is useless to point it out to you --- such a hopeless case!


Rivkah ♥ עם ישראל חי
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Does your boycott of Israel not extend itself to this forum?
Answer: almost all - Zionism is a "movement for the protection of the Jewish state of Israel."

(How is the boycott going? Have you thrown away your medicine yet? How about your anti-virus software?)


samsproudmommy
there is one sect against zionism and they are in charem=exiled from the community. they call themselves the neturai karta.

no, orthodox ppl arre not against zionism, in fact they are the strongest supporters. perhaps you are thinking about the start of zionism were many orthodox rabbis were skeptical at first. if this is so then maybe you should get a more updated history book.


Jdriven
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Not your brightest question Man.


Juggling Frogs
99.44%, just like the old Ivory Soap commercials!

EDIT: The non-Zionists are a minority within a minority of the orthodox. The anti-Zionist orthodox are a minority within a minority within a minority.

EDIT to Maya: "Am Yisroel Chai" is a manifestation of intolerance?!? Glad I don't own your dictionary.


rosends
the number in those sects is rumored to be in the 5 thousand range. Worldwide Judaism runs at about 13 million. You do the math.


Mark S, JPAA
Yes, a *very* high majority support Israel. Those that don't support Israel are tiny, tiny,tiny.

Am Yisrael Chai !!!!


Darkprince
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Maya
The number of jews who are non-zionist is insignificant; for all practical purposes a jew is a zionist and any antizionist must never forget that - or the extreme intolerance for freedom of expression and aggressiveness manifested here in the jewish responses. Odds are,they would kill you if they could.


d j
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my friend .. it is really a minority .. do not bet on them ... they will vanish by the days and as Harmajiddon comes Muslims will kill all the Zionist Israeli Jews in Palestine inshallah ... "until the tree and the stone says: Oh you muslim, there is a jewish behind me .. come and kill him .."
Zionists are Killers and Murderers .. look what are they doing now in Gaza ... they are preventing Fuel to reach poor people there letting them in the Dark without electricity or any heating resources in this cold winter!
The victory though will be for those faith people surrounded there .. as they will never surrender... Allah Akbar ..


riviva
Still being boycotted, taking points


Freedom F
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No Jew supports zionism.

Excellent video B.



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