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Marum B

Who is committed more to a truce? Israel or Hamas?


    



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sparkle
both as bad as each other, neither of them is committed to true peace, without ridiculous demands that have no expectation of being realised. therefore no peace


paradisemtn
Israel


mark
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The Palestinians are more committed to a real truce. Just today the Israeli army killed 5 people and jailed 26 and destroyed 5 homes in the West Bank. Israeli leaders do not want to stop the killings of both people and this is a fact no one can deny.


Kanan
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It is the poor Palestinians or Hamas, as they have no choice nor weapons to match the Jewish military might. They are people under military occupation since 1967. They want their freedom as all nations in the world.


kismet
Israel.
Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Israel is not committed to destruction; its ultimate goal is peaceful coexistence.


ZB
The simple answer is Hamas wants a truce more because it's been badly hit and wants to regroup and recoup some of its losses. Israel wants peace. That is why they withdrew from Gaza. It's regrettable that the actions of Hamas force the Israelis to go back in.


HopelessZ00
Actually Hamas!

One hour ago,

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Gaza's Hamas prime minister publicly set his conditions Wednesday for a cease-fire with Israel to end the fighting that has killed dozens in recent weeks.

Ismail Haniyeh demanded an end to Israeli military activity in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, a lifting of Israeli economic sanctions and the opening of Gaza's borders, which have been sealed since the Islamic militant group seized control of the territory last June.

"We are talking about a mutual, comprehensive calm, which means that the enemy must fulfill its obligations," Haniyeh said in a speech at Gaza's Islamic University. "The Israelis must stop the aggression ... including assassinations and invasions, end the sanctions and open the borders."

At least Hamas has come to the table with an offer. Peace!

Samsproudmama: Hamas has said the rockets will stop, is that not what Israel wants?


MBC
A truce in this case is merely tactical, and as Hamas has far less strength than Israel, it would want the truce more so that it could make itself stronger for the next round of fighting. It is so senseless!

Nevertheless, a temporary peace is better than no peace at all if it gives a chance for things to settle down and radicalism among the average Palestinians to subside. History has shown that the harsher Israel is, the more radicals hell-bent on the destruction of Israel are produced. So it is in Israel's best interest for the Palestinians as a whole not to lose hope. When hope is lost, nothing less than a fight to the death seems the only alternative to many Palestinians.


samsproudmommy
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israel. notice btw hat hamas laid out what israel has to do, not a wrd about wat hamas has to do. besides, hamas has repeatdly broken truces


Liora
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I should say from the outset that I am Jewish & Israeli, but try to view this dispassionately, for the sake of my 2 young children.
PA television has been broadcasting on a daily basis for several months, a hate-filled music video calling for the ethnic cleansing of the Jewish people from Israel, consistent with other Arabic-language hate messages currently being disseminated.
The song incites Arabs living under Fatah's rule in Judea and Samaria to fight to the death to rid the land of Jews, assuring them that, through this, they will ultimately prevail: "You have no choice, oh enemy, but to leave my country," it says.
PA TV first aired the music video in 2004 and resumed its broadcast in October, 2007. It was broadcast throughout the Annapolis conference as well as during US President George W. Bush's visit to Israel, and it continues to be aired on almost a daily basis.
Now, Fatah are supposed to be "the moderates", with whom Israel is negotiating; how much harder to negotiate with Hamas, who consider Fatah to be a weak puppet organization, in the pocket of he Western world?

Imagine a Christian walking into a Hindu school & opening fire on students as they were learning their holy books…… Then imagine that, not only had he murdered eight young students & wounded more than 30, but just try to visualize groups of Christians breaking out in song & dance to celebrate this "Brave victory".
It's impossible to do so in the civilized world. But this is exactly what occurred in the recent Hamas terrorist attack in Jerusalem. The act itself was not only horrific & cowardly, but what took place afterwards in much of Gaza & in many parts of the Arabic world was downright revolting.

Thousands of Hamas supporters came out into the streets to rejoice at their “brave Arabic martyr” who had the guts to shoot unarmed students as they were sitting & studying. Adults in Gaza passed out candies to the children & to passers-by who were honking their car horns in mad support. This display is indeed frightening, but it is also enlightening, for it shows their true colors for everyone to see.

Islam under Hamas & Hezbollah has proven itself to be anything but a religion of peace. One needs only to look at nearly every hot spot on the planet to see that somehow, in some way, & usually very directly, the Moslems are frequently there making chaos, destroying, killing - all in the name of their “holy” beliefs - in Russia, Indonesia, Africa, the Middle East, Europe & the USA.
On February 20, 1998 in London the Azzam Organization, issued the text of a dua (a prayer-sermon instructing the believer how to answer the call of Islam) to be read in mosques worldwide during the key Friday prayer. The Azzam Organization reminded the listeners and readers that Prophet Muhammad decreed that "indeed Dua is the weapon of the Believer."


Are you ready for this?
O ALLAH! Inspire Muslims in important, strategic and influential positions around the world to use their skills, whether it be computer knowledge or financial ability, to RETALIATE against the enemy in every part of the World!

O ALLAH! KUFR IS ONE NATION, so even though the MUJAHIDEEN may not be able to retaliate in Iraq, allow your MUJAHIDEEN fighters in the other parts of the World to retaliate against the KAFIR NATION!

O ALLAH! Cause this retaliation to come in the form of attacks by HAMAS on Israel!

O ALLAH! Cause this retaliation to come in the form of attacks by Ibnal-Khattab and the Foreign Mujahideen in CHECHNYA against the Russians!

O ALLAH! Cause this retaliation to come in the form of attacks by Osama bin Laden and other brave fighters from the Arabian Gulf on the FOREIGN FORCES in the GULF COUNTRIES!

O ALLAH! Cause this retaliation to come in the form of intensified attacks on the Hindu forces in KASHMIR!

O ALLAH! Cause this retaliation to come in the form of intensified attacks on ISRAEL from Mujahideen across the borders of Jordan and Lebanon!

O ALLAH! Cause the RIGHTEOUS SCHOLARS IN THE ARABIAN GULF to rebel against the foreign policies of their Governments and speak out for the TRUTH!

O ALLAH! Cause the authorities of Muslim countries to turn a BLIND EYE on retaliatory attacks by Mujahideen on Foreign Forces on their soils!

O ALLAH! CAUSE SO MUCH DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION AND CONFUSION TO THE INVADING FORCES THAT THEY LEARN A LESSON WHICH WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AND CAUSE THEM LOSSES WHICH WILL MAKE THEIR GULF WAR LOSSES LOOK LIKE NOTHING!



Israel is not the only country that they have their sights on. Moslems are taught that eventually the Koran will rule over everyone & everything. However, for Jews who are happy being Jews, & Christians who want to practice their faith & Hindus who aren’t interested in embracing Islam, then, as the Moslems themselves have shown time & time again, it’s by any means necessary to rid the world of lower class “infidels.”

Despite receiving $billions in foreign aid, the Gazan leadership spend most of this aid on buying weapons, bombs, rockets, missiles, & training their young ones to hate & kill Jews, Israelis & other "infidels".

One difficulty for Israel, is that Hamas constantly move the goal posts........ following the disengagement from Gaza in September 2005, the world expected peace in the Middle East. The problem is that the terrorist mentality viewed this as "weakness", and the rocket attacks on Southern Israel actually increased - at present, the residents of Southern Israel are dealing with 5 or 6 rocket attacks every hour.
In the meantime, our captured soldier, Gilad Shalit, may or may not be alive; a sure thing is that his captors are not following universally agreed procedures for the capture & detainment of foreign nationals (whether during a conflict situation or otherwise).
To wrap up - All of Israel is committed to peace. Hamas has declared that it can & will never make peace, because it refuses to acknowledge the right of Israel, or the Jewish people to exist.


paperback writer
Clearly you've never read the HAMAS CHARTER?

Go and check it out. How can Hamas say they want a 'truce' when their own official charter states that they want the destruction of Israel and that nothing less will suffice?

Hamas has repeatedly refused to recognise Israel's right to exist. Go and read the Charter. It will answer this question and many others you might have.


NONAME
israel
hammas has said there can be no peace only a truce while jews leave israel


Black_Stone_Heart
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Israel


Mimi-מימי- ميمي
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IDF
Hamas kills 10, IDF kills 100


stop me if you can
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The above poster with the candle avatar who has mentioned the hamas "conditions" for truce is correct with this offer. The Israeli answer is of course omitted by this poster. Before the official answer is even returned an Israeli source in the CNN story said it best. he said there is already a cease fire by the Israelis because the rockets have subsided. A truce would only be a deal with terrorists who are shooting the rockets into Israel.Hamas's offer of stopping their terrorism is suppose to be rewarded by once again giving them free access to Israel by allowing them to enter through a checkpoint. Israel has already answered this by saying this MIGHT be an option if Abba's Fatah group were monitor's of the checkpoint. The Israeli government then said this was a virtual impossibilty for hamas to allow such a thing. I dare the people who have posted the hamas "truce" news to say both crossing into Israel is not the goal of truce and that abbas would control such a crossing. I for one am not merely willing to say,"I told you so!" when the first 17 year old palestinian girl blows herself up in Tel Aviv.


Judith
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Neither!
Hamas wants to continue the fight until the liberate all Palestine from the savage Israeli occupation.
Israelis are nothing but thieves and gangsters who are blood hungry, and if peace prevails the big US$ and weapons will stop!


Agrippina A
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HAMAS is dedicated to hudna. The Jews do not want it so they continue war



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