Why do the Arabs always lose the wars?

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Bravo Sierra

Remember July 2006? Hizballa?
Maybe you don't remember the rockets on Haifa and all the northern Zionists temporary state.!!
Do you remember when your PM olmert was begging "Condi" to stop the war.

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John Ber

Wining or losing depends on your perspective. The Arabs won the oil rich areas, and have mosques in nearly every country around the globe, and have excellent positions of control. With less than 2% of the American population, Muslims demand prayer time 5x per day and may get it from their employers, yet our Black American people who are more than 15% of the US population do not get a Kwanzaa holiday. Praying 5x per day, adds up to more time than one 8 hr holiday throughout the year.
Everyone muslim is expected to contribute finances to jihad..and to convey the muslim message that if only the entire world was Islam there would be peace. More importantly, the Arabs fail to understand the issues and can only focus on it from their viewpoint, which does not allow them to see a broader picture to know what they are dealing with. For instance, articles in Arab newspapers blame the Americans for inciting Arab women to want freedoms like driving, as if it is the Americans' faults. Until Arabs stop blaming everyone who is not muslim and take a firm stand to stop their people from jihad, most people will want to be on the side of peacegiver forces rather than the Arabs jihad conquer side. Arabs have refused any compromise and numerous peace deals from President Carter and other presidents, which could have brought peace for Muslims and the area long ago.

Local Machine

War is not a good thing kid.
You'll become a bad person if you keep on thinking like that.
But you are a jew, so it's ok I guess.

Listen, the most important part of a war is the Final battle. The Mother of all battles. The big Kahuna dude!
The one that no one stays alive to declare defeat.
Do you think that the jews have already won that one?

Didn't think so, just look around you dude.
Do you see any pro-semites? Everyone on this planet is after your throats. You turned those peace lovin individuals against you and that was your biggest mistake ever.

Do you see any other country being threatened of extinction apart from jew palestine? Nope.

Ahh, it sure feels great not being a jew nowdays!

The machine has spoken!

Haifa

This is very racist and anti-arab!

mark

The Arabs did not do any fighting in the wars they lost to Israel. 1948 and 1956 and 1967 wars were led and planed by European powers.
But when the Arabs did fight in the wars they stopped Israel at once and made Israel to call for Western help.

1 kidney boy

Well Arabs still control a lot of foreign oil. So I guess they when the wars where they count.

Aldonbonn

Well we are doing good job keeping Israel from occupying our lands

Egypt Kicked out Israel from its lands on 1973
Lebanon defeated israel when it was trying to to occupy it again!

plus Israel is supported by USA, that is the only reason it still exists son

EDIT:
why u said all the wars if u meant Arab Israeli wars?
Arabs Defeated Europe TWICE, but u will never know that if u kept watching TV propaganda

Aziz Ng

not always.

u might wanna read history again (read without prejudice)

samy n

what war do you mean?the arabs are diffrent countries,,,,,thy have no wars only egypt that wined 6 october war with israel,,,before the peace with it

Zeno

Because even collectively they haven't got anything approaching the magnitude of arms available to Israel courtesy of the American behemoth.

killingcraz

well there's many reasons
israel is backed staunchly by europe and the US
israel has sophisticaed weapons and heavy aid from the US
arab/muslim countries don't have such high tech weapons as the israelis.
plus there's the cultural side.
israel there is strong unity between israelis and a strong military culture (to me that's a bad thing, it makes them heartless).
Arabs, and even most Muslims, are too busy fighting among themselves. Even palestinians can't get along. I'm not arab but i've noticed arabs are very nationalistic so it's always lebanese vs egyptian or kuwait vs iraq.
And the arab culture i guess needs some changes, probably saudi cud start letting women drive?
Arab countries are not politically strong there're many dictators, liberals vs conservatives etc and they're all backed by the west so there's no changing to true democracy. The current egyptian government is a dictatorship and is staunchly supported by the US and Sadaam was once a US ally.
Oh and there's the whole oil thing. Rich Arabs are just too busy having 24 million dollar firework display on the palm island in dubai or having celinie dion singing for them instead of putting the money into human development.

InquisitiveMind

Well considering Israel has the U.S., support monetarily and weaponry of course its not a balanced fight. If Israel had to fight on their own without "aid" they would loose.

momw

Because they don't get the arms that the US sends to Israel.

Shadi

Always? lol

Real historians disagree with you on this one :-)

For example the famous Israeli historian Avi Shlaim who stated in his famous (Iron Wall) book:

"This popular-heroic-moralistic version of the 1948 war has been used extensively in Israeli propaganda and is still taught in Israeli schools. It is a prime example of the use of a nationalistic version of history in the process of nation building. In a very real sense history is the propaganda of the victors, and the history of the 1948 war is no exception."
"Despite all the political miscalculations and failures of those who planned the Sinai Campaign, it is their version that became firmly entrenched in the mind of the overwhelming majority of Israelis. The popular perception of the 1956 war in Israel is that it was a defensive war, a just war, a brilliantly executed war, and a war that achieved nearly all of its objectives. This version of the war was propagated not only by members of the Israeli defense establishment but by a host of sympathetic historians, journalists, and commentators. However deeply cherished, this version does not stand up to scrutiny in the light of the evidence now available. It is a striking example of the way in which history can be manipulated to serve nationalist ends. The official Israeli version of the 1956 war, like that of the 1948 war, is little more than the propaganda of the victor."
(Iron Wall, p. 185)

Let us also quote two of the most prominent pro-Israeli historians, Martin Van Creveld (the renowned Israeli military strategist and historian) and Martin Gilbert about the "Israeli-Arab war":

"In the Event of invading [Arab] forces were limited to approximately 30,000 men. The strongest [consider this fact while reading the next quote] single contingent was the Jordanian one, already described. Next came Egyptians with 5,500 men, then the Iraqis with 4,500 who ..... were joined by perhaps 3,000 local irregulars. The total was thus around eight rather under strength brigades, some of them definitely of second-and even third-rate quality. To these must be added approximately 2,000 Lebanese (one brigade) and 6,000 Syrians (three brigades). Thus, even though the Arab countries [population] outnumbered the Yishuv by better then forty-to-one, in terms of military manpower available for combat in Palestine the two sides were fairly evenly matched. As time went on and both sides sent reinforcements the balance changed in the Jews' favor; by October they had almost 90,000 men and women under arms, the Arabs only 68,000." (The Sword And The Olive, p. 77-78)
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Arabs never lost any war, they only lost some battles because of their puppet leaders who were good friends with Britain back then and good friends with US today ;-) They love their throwns more than their countries and their people...

I think we all know how zionist soldiers look like when they are on the ground. How do you think they would look like without US military aid? lol
Look how were they humiliated by Hezbullah who are by the way not even an army...

But to be honest, they are very good at shooting on little babies and carriying wars against Palestinian stone throwing kids...

"Israel" existance depends on foreign support and without this support, they are just an ugly history...

This war just began by the way and it will never end until Arabs destroy this US-British colonial project or die all...

Edit: It does mention the reason Kev, it is beneath the qoute...

Arieh

Most of the officers in the Arab forces are from priveledged families. They do not want to take risks with their own lives, so they lead from the rear. Hence, there is no leadership on the front lines.

Israeli officers lead from the front, hence their leadership is manifested into a better motivated fighting force.

Troy B

What about Arabs who won wars against other Arabs?

Why not historical Islamic wars from the past?
They weren't Arabs maybe?
They are actually the REAL Arabs, not those living right now are puppets compared to the real arabs.

LeboNEEZ TEEZ

why do jewish kids always get picked last for sport teams?

Kevin S

"Well Arabs still control a lot of foreign oil. So I guess they when the wars where they count."

Not exactly true.......america and europe have enough control over arab oil to control its prices.

In general, they lose wars with the Isrealis, because Israelis want Israel more then the arabs want Israel. The second reason is because Israel gets a lot of western support. Arabs have russian support, which is just as good. But one has to realize you have to actually know how to use ure tanks and fighter jets aka 6 day war.

"The Arabs did not do any fighting in the wars they lost to Israel. 1948 and 1956 and 1967 wars were led and planed by European powers."

Which specific european powers? Europe is not even powerful. You mean western europe? France? England? Eastern europe? Macedonia?

""In the Event of invading [Arab] forces were limited to approximately 30,000 men. The strongest [consider this fact while reading the next quote] single contingent was the Jordanian one, already described. Next came Egyptians with 5,500 men, then the Iraqis with 4,500 who ..... were joined by perhaps 3,000 local irregulars. The total was thus around eight rather under strength brigades, some of them definitely of second-and even third-rate quality. To these must be added approximately 2,000 Lebanese (one brigade) and 6,000 Syrians (three brigades). Thus, even though the Arab countries [population] outnumbered the Yishuv by better then forty-to-one, in terms of military manpower available for combat in Palestine the two sides were fairly evenly matched. As time went on and both sides sent reinforcements the balance changed in the Jews' favor; by October they had almost 90,000 men and women under arms, the Arabs only 68,000." (The Sword And The Olive, p. 77-78)"

So basically, although arabs love Palestine, Jews were willing to die for it much more than arabs? Interesting.

Also, the hezbollah war was way to democratic for Israelis to win. there were 5,000 slain hezbollah bodies. Israel had several thousand or less. So its a victory. Israel actually had a chance to take back some land from Lebanon but chose not to in order to make peace. Thanks Shadi for the first qoute where it mentions no reasons.Don't be so anti-khazar.

Bob Joke

Because they support people like doctor Josef Mengele. And why did Mossad let Mengele escape?

Jim E

How people can claim Hezbollah won that war i have no idea, but these are the same people who have been claiming for the last 6 trillion years that they would wipe Israel off the map.
Its like Golda Meir famously said, '' We ( Israel ) do not thrive on military attacks, but we sure thank G-d we are efficient at them ''.

because like the haters here, they're all talk. when it comes to action, they can't tie their own shoes. if it weren't for oil, they'd still be in huts beating their women. oh wait, they do that anyway.

Shay p

You mean reasons beyond Israel being the best .

Perpetual ineffectiveness are rooted in Arab culture. Social factors that prohibit success include: secrecy and paranoia, pride, class structure, a lack of coordination on all levels, and little individual freedom or initiative.

Roki

because they fight Israel, Israel fights with honor and integrity and pride,
somehting the arabs dont have. Israel cares about each and everyone of their soldiers. Israelis are actually smart and have good strategies unlike dumb arabs who think they can just win by outnumbering Israel 10 to 1.

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