Why is there never a discussion about posting this?

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Duke of Tudor

Hi h,

So, you wanna see the (people who use) link reported? Please go to Ramadan section. I bet, if Non-Muslims ever use this link, e.g., to criticize Islam, in Ramadan section, they will get reported in 1-2 hours. On the other hand, if some people deny the Holocaust in that section, they will less likely (if not) get reported.

How could that happen? Because, the link you refer to is not a sensitive issue for most of the regulars here compared to the Holocaust. Moreover, some of people here might have had unpleasant experience with Muslims. If your friends deny the Holocaust in front of you, you probably will explain to them what you know about it without getting upset in the first place. The same reaction happened with sensitive issues for Muslims, e.g., Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy which did not spark any protests across the Western world. I admit that some of the cartoons have really gone too far.

Anyway, I'll tell you one thing. If I wanna learn Islam further, I'll learn it from neutral sources like I am doing now or start reading the Koran and Hadith by myself. Salaam.

silverfox9605

I've taken the time to read about half of the blog site you have posted, and I have to tell you up front that I agree 100% with what is being said on there.

hamarker

I don't think any msgs of hate should be posted here....
only msgs we can learn from each other - and be nice to each other - otherwise we will never advance into the bright future.

paperback writer

- the unchained blog is not part of yahoo, the contents and link don't get posted here by most of us, only by maybe one person.

I saw what paperback said. She condemned the swearing and insults but said she understood the anger. By the same token, do you condemn the hurtful and wicked lies that ABC tells?

paperback_writer

hi 'h',

I did note, some months ago, that the title of that blog is highly offensive to Muslim people. I assume you didn't read my remark but I did say it.

I haven't read much of that blog so I can't comment much at this point. So far, the little bit I have read seemed entirely factual in that it documented actual events. But fair is fair; I'm going to read some more today and tomorrow and if I'm wrong, I will say so.

However, please know that I DO condemn the name of the blog and the suggestion that ALL Muslims are to blame for what SOME Muslims do in the name of Islam.

ABC 'really' did deny the Holocaust. He also had the temerity to ask if my relatives were 'really innocent?' which almost defies belief, in the context of the 'discussion'.

I feel we should all abstain from calling people names and from swearing. Rudeness remains rudeness whatever a person's religion.

Shalom :)

edit 'h'

- listen, if I read on that site things as spiteful and untrue as the posts by ABC, then I agree with you. So far, I have to honestly tell you I haven't BUT I haven't looked through all the material yet... :)

MONEYMAKER - no, it definitely was not you. Think about it for a minute and you will know who was being referred to; he's fab, but furious sometimes. You'll work it out, you're a smart guy :)

Mr. X

that website is terrible. of course there are million hateful websites, about all groups, jews and muslims alike.

is that what you wanted to hear?

i have no idea what that has to do with someone here denying history though. one thing has nothing to do with the other.

HopelessZ00

As you can see by all of the above answers tit for tat. One is ok , this is not ok, that is ok , here this is not ok, when are people going to stop fighting and move on. Stuck from 60 - 4000 years ago, stuck from one month ago, stuck in the same dirty rotten place. War! Stuck, Why can't anyone here see the future? And change what's going on. Because all stuck!!!!!

WittyWeaselâ„¢

h - I'm the author of the blog you referred to as being "hateful".

http://islam-the-monster-unchained.blogspot.com

If you actually read every one of the articles on the blog I think you'd see that I use media statements and videos made by Mohammedans themselves and my articles are my own personal comments on the morality and ethics that the Mohammedans themselves espouse.

As a couple of posters above kindly noted, I never go off on unsubstantiated rants against Islam . . . *everything* I've posted has been based on stuff Mohammedans themselves have said or done.

Even the piece on the "72 Virgins", while a tongue-in-cheek poke at that Islamic doctrine, just took the concept to its logical result . . . again, based on Islamic doctrine *itself* !

In the spirit of fair play, I'd appreciate it if you could point out *one* article where I've lied, tried to deceive, distorted facts or used non-Islamic material as the basis for an article.

My perspectives are one of someone commenting on the daily and very public atrocities committed by Mohammedans against innocent civilians ( and women !) worldwide . . . and the deafening silence of other Mohammedans when they occur.

As a poster above mentioned, the regular demonization of Jews in the Arab and Islamic media like:

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=antisemitism&ID=IA36807

doesn't seem to phase you or any other Mohammedans.

Websites like http://www.palestiniantragedy.com are regularly posted as links by those critical of Jews and Israel and no-one seems to mind that, even though they are blatently hate-fueled and consistently deny or ignore the most basic facts and issues in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

If you have any other comments, my e-mail is available and I'm open to anything you ( or anyone else ! ) might want to say.

Michael J

Personally I don't report for links, only for what people say. The only time I reported a link was when it led to adult content. I also don't usually report people who answer a certain way, just ignore them. In this particular case, the reported individual started a thread on this board, which is a different story altogether.
In this particular case as well, the poster tried to argue that only a couple thousand Jews were massacred and not 6 million as is commonly held. Saying it was 5 million and not six is a matter of figures; saying it was thousands and not millions is denial.

diana

i can't understand his anger, because it's beyond anger. this is a very deep hate!!! that will never disappear.
and for the link, I agree, Islam is the religion of hate. it is one scary religion.

Dryest Flame

i read nothing but more hate and lie about Islam and in very rude and offensive way but that will not turn any Muslim to any thing but make us(Muslims)more strong and unity to face that

LEE DA

Sooner than later we all discover the Holocaust is an over milked cow, and never to be the Golden one either.
A thousand or a million really doesn't matter , it only fuels a contagious hate, many Jewish scholars agree with that ... so what don't you?

ahmed k

Discussion is good .Ever so many discussion is so fine.The outcome surely will be a bit of truth.
All will have to admit and enjoy the honey of
truth.

bilgewater.barney

With all due respect, I read ALL the articles on that blog:

//http://islam-the-monster-unchained.blogspot.com

and whoever writes that used videos taken directly from Muslim sources and Muslim speakers.

Although he did take a couple of funny swipes at Islam, the serious stuff are his comments on the videos that Muslims themselves have made and Quranic verses that all Muslims have to admit they believe in.

Personally, I didn't see any FACTUAL errors in the articles and, this being the Internet, there's far worst stuff out there that's just plain hysterical anti-Semitic propoganda like:

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=subjects&Area=antisemitism&ID=IA36807

that's just based on hatred, not facts.

Whoever WittyWeasel is, it looks like he's just RESPONDING to Islamic extremism and he used quotes from Arab and Islamic sources to back up his position.

The guy's pretty eloquent and I don't think even a devout Muslim could dispute the points he makes if he bases them on the Quran itself.

He made a good point about Yahoo Answers with that article on the posting in the Egypt section from "Magdoulin" about being a suicide bomber and daring others to do the same. I myself flagged that one after it was referred to here and it still stood for over four days and was NEVER deleted.

I didn't read in that blog where the writer EVER advocated violence against Muslims, but resistance AGAINST Islamic violence, and a lot of Muslim women were comdemning Islam in the videos for its violence against them.

I also checked out the links to other sites in one of the articles and they were ALL either from ex-Muslims or sites that translated Arab and Muslim media that advocates the destruction of Israel and the hatred of Jews and Christians.

While the TITLE of the blog may be a little over-the-top, the content is definitely well thought out and well documented.

We could do a lot worse.

WO LEE

Islam is only a threat to those who deny the existance of the one God!

Yes Islam is Unleached ....

To save humanity, to continue the message of Moses and Jesus.. 7abba man 7ab wa Kariha man Karih! ( you like it or not).

moneymok

did you read that blog yourself? It isn't hateful. It isn't telling its readers to murder, or even hate anyone. It is however telling them to beware.
You personally I wouldn't call hateful. You come from Germany, and your level of culture by far exceeds these savages you have joined. Why you have joined them is beyond me.

I got another account deleted. I wish someone told me exactly what it is that I am saying is so wrong. Am I not allowed to say that Islam is a death-cult? But it is! IT IS!

P.S. How can you tell me that you are so fair and balanced, and yet defend this donkey?

kismet

What a hateful site indeed....
As for ABC; he is really extreme. If he asked legitimate questions and welcomed a dialogue, I would have no problem with him. You only have to look at his latest post to see that he is not interested in exchanging ideas. He only wants to throw his hate in our faces and see how much we can take before we flinch or get angry....

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