Are javanese considered as malay?

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The Javanese are an ethnic group native to the Indonesian island of Java. They are predominantly located in the central to eastern parts of the island. At 90 million people (as of 2004) it is the largest ethnic group on the island, and also in Indonesia.

Most Javanese are Muslim. Some also follow Christianity (Protestantism and Catholicism). This is also true in rural areas.

In Indonesia, Javanese can be found in all professions, especially in the government and the military. Traditionally, most Javanese are farmers.

Effendi R

I don't know why they Malays are always in denial that they are not the original people on the "Malay Peninsula". Does not make them less Malaysians, does it? Read the history of Prince Parameswara who founded the Sultanate of Melacca around 1400. He was a MALAY prince from Srivijaya, and Malay here designs an ethnic entity (or race if you like) found in many parts of South East Asia. It is only in Malaysia that Malaysian Malays are a constitutionally defined group of Muslim Malaysian citizens of Austronesian origin. The origin of this ethnic group is primarily in the Malay Peninsula, and parts of Sumatra and Borneo but nowadays you can also find Malays in Singapore, and if you look further to South Africa you will find the Cape Malays, and then look at the Cocos Malays...

For political reasons Javanese, who are Muslims, are often considered Malays (I live in Sabah where this thing bears interesting fruits, anybody from neighbouring countires and who is Muslim, or sometimes not, calls him or herself a Malay to reap governmental benefits, and the government does reap its benefits, too), but I am glad to read that there are some proud Javanese Malaysians who set the record straight. Thanks Poison Ivy!

There is nothing wrong with one's ethnic background. If you are Malay in Malaysia, that should mean that you come from the Malay stock (not indigenous but here since a good moment, see above!) and of course you are Muslim. If you are Javanese you are Javanese and if you are Dusun you are Dusun (you can be a Muslim, but that does not make you a Malay, just as an Indian Muslim will always be an Indian and not a Malay), etc. Really! Should not even be a question, never a discussion.

britney

i think that javanese is one of the many malay race. But the real bumiputera of malaysia are the orang asli. I cannot understand why malay would always say that they are pure malay. What is pure malay? Where does pure malay comes from? Hello.....wakey wakey..Pure malay means orang asli or what..Javanese are beautiful. Be proud of your ethnic background.

patrick4true

Not really ..

Javanese is the name of the people living or originated from the Indonesian island of Java ..

And Malay's are the people living or originated from the country of Malaysia.

Even if they use a very similar language which is the "bahasa Malaysia or Indonesia", they are not originated from the same country.

Manok Jantan

kelsey

frans

They're different eventough have some physical resemblance.
the culture, language, and accent are very different.

Altstadtweib

for some reason I thought "indonesian".......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(island)

Carmen Lee

no, javanese are not really considered malay, they're more like indonesians.

Dennis J

If you consider the racial features as well as the linguistic similarities between the various ethnic communities inhabiting the Malay Peninsula and the islands of Indonesia, then of course you will have to say that the Javanese are also Malays. Everything else is just politics, chauvinism and racial hatred and jealousy.

anderson

Malays is original from indonesia many years ago, it includes, java, minangkabau, bugis and others race in indonesia. you can say is their ancestors

GOOGOOGAAGAA

who are these people, are they natives from Africa, never heard of them!

da.capo.

javanese is considered as indonesian.. while indonesian, malaysian, and filipino considered as malay race..

Shah

No, Malays did not originate from that part of Indonesia.

saifuddin_3

malay race - malay, javanese, boyanese, minangkabau, bugis, acehnese, banjarese, sundanese, balinese etc

malay ethnic group - see http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/indonesia_ethno_1972.jpg

ironlady42

Yes, javanese do considered as malay group.

azayi1

yes, they are,,,

as malay ppl in this region are call "Rumpun Melayu"

it consist ppl from Indonesia, malaysia, brunei, southern part of philipines & southern part of thailand"..

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Firstly you must understand that being 'Malay' is a new term, a name given to a particular ethnic group which are made up of several groups people as you had mentioned.

Strictly speaking, you can't say that a Javanese is Malay nor Malay as Javanese. They are two different groups. However, in order to increase their numbers in Malaysia, they have been admitted into the 'Malay' category for the similarities in ethnic look-alike and religion, etc. This is when you talk about Proto Malays, Negrito Malays, etc. -the REAL Malays or 'Melayu Peribumi'.

To put it in a simpler way, a Javanese is considered 'Malay' in modern terms/Malaysian term but in the true sense, a Javanese is not Malay due to their origins.

This is as similar to calling Malaysian with ethnic roots with Sri Lankan/Bengali/Nepalese 'Indian' in Malaysia. They are not Indians at all but its due to the racial profiling/grouping.

Dave Star

indonesians and malaysians are malays, filipinos are pacific islanders.

AQ - ×ž×œ×’×–×”

If Malays need them to increase their number, they are considered as Malays, but normally they are "Indons".

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