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My brother is going to thailand for a "sex holiday". he says he is helping the economy and also the women?

what do you think? is this a valid argument?

    



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PoshBerries
He's just using an excuse to find sex entertainment.

If he really meant to help in improving the economy, he could have donate all his travel expenses to the charities in Thailand.
He doesn't have to squander his money on the ladies, that will only keep Thailand's sex industry to boom further. Worst case is when Thailand's ladies know that sex industry is improving, more of them will not want to study or work as a normal clerk or worker, they wld rather become sex slaves and keep rotting.

Tell him that he's only finding excuses to find sex in Thailand and ask him to buy insurance or save a sum of money for his future, just in case he gets AIDS which is spreading prominently in Thailand currently. China, Thailand & Indonesia are the few countries with high AIDS. Beware!


Warren D
He would be very wise to take along about a year's supply of condoms and I'd say he's rationalizing.

There are plenty of ways to help the Thai economy that don't involve sex, and if he wants to help the women he ought to find ways to get them out of the sex industry.

Thailand is a beautiful country with some of the best people in the world in it, and the existence of sexual slavery is an incredible blot on its reputation.


bc_ca_princess
no


witheringtonkeith
no he is just sad as he can not get a bird for him self


lil sammy
Just make sure they ladies are all 18 (HUGE problem here), and he uses a condom every time. I live in one of the sex industry hot spots, and know some ladies. Most seem that they are doing this by choice and have a better life (financially speaking) than the average Thai. But he is not helping the economy by getting laid, these ladies don't report their earnings. If he eats at nice restaurants and sees some of local (and beautiful) sights, then he's not hurting the economy, either. Thailand is a wonderful place, so ask him to be respectful. And if he's going to Patong and sees 2 farang girls sitting around Bangla road having a few beers, that may be me :) unfortunately, laughing at him for paying for sex.
Bracing now, for the thumbs down. But it's the truth that I see in action every day.


Neale B
That is horrible. I'm sorry, he is helping no one. Please, read the Wikipedia article below...


Emma
He'll certainly help the "medical" economy when he came back with HIV positive/AIDS ;)


pugsley
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No. You can see a lot of sex tourists when you go to that part of the world and I'd like to see every one of them shot! If you take the time to talk with the women that work in this industry you'll hear some truly awful stories. Sex tourism and 'mail order brides' in Thailand have become popular topics in the U.K. to make fun of, but the reality is not at all funny. I spoke to a man who had just returned from Thailand, whilst he was there he met another tourist who said he knew a good place to party. They went together to a warehouse and inside the warehouse were rows of girls with paper tags attached to their wrists. you simply tore off the tag and took it to a till at the front and then......nasty!
He may think it's a joke now but he needs to think about how he's going to feel about himself when he gets back home having behaved like a pervert and upheld such a horrible industry.
In reply to your question tell him to grow up and start to realise that it's not a Little Britain sketch, thousands of women are living in hell as a direct result of fools like him.
and in reply to the person above, I have spent a long time in the far east and have been offered sex many times. I have NEVER accepted, not once, it's not a free sex utopia, there's always strings attached!!


peanutz
Please advise your brother that sex holiday is illegal in Thailand and if caught, a jail term is mandatory. Just because some foreigners had managed to evade the law, do not imply that it is openly acceptable. It is just that the Thai tend to be tolerant of foreigners because they understand that most foreigners do not understand their culture.

Anyway, latest statistic for HIV-infected people in Thailand stands at about 600,000. So id you r brother going to be the next?

Tell him to find a proper girlfriend and he can go to Thailand for a holiday with her. I think this will be a better option.

And by the way, his argument is bullshit. He is helping himself. He can help the women without getting them for sex.


mick t
Many of the activities traditionally carried out by women as part of family life are now done by paid professionals due to the collapse of the family in the west. Cooking, cleaning, child care ect. The huge expansion of the sex industry is just part of that social trend. The argument that his exploits poverty is nonsense as any paid activity can be viewed that way.

Doctors exploit sick people
Farmers exploit hungry people
prostitutes exploit sexually frustrated people

are just three examples


idrmcl
Perhaps.

The fact is that so called "western" sex tourism does help a lot of the poorer parts of the country ie Issan where most of the girls come from. These girls are not co-erced or forced into the business but probably know it from friends or relatives who have done it or are doing it in the past. Indeed in many villages you can spot the familes with girls who used to work / are in the industry as they will be the ones with new houses, cars etc

This is totally different from the endentured brothel industry that serves the local Thai and Chinese market.


But, whatever, the rights or wrongs, he shouldnt be bragging about it to anyone.


madonna_toller
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That's the "best" excuse for himself!


Naut
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Better tell your brother to kiss his 'little willy' good-bye.
If brother is keen on the women of this Country, he should be prepared to 'thai the knot' and behave himself.


nowhereman
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is this part of Thailand's self sufficient economy endorsed by the Prime Minister


Maybe_a_girl
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That is a selfish reason to satisfy the selfish part of himself. Paying for sex is exploitation, exploiting the fact that you are using people poorer than you.

If he wants to help, he can put the money into community projects that help ensure future generations need not sell themselves.

People are not commodities.

Anyway, I think it's just a bloody poor excuse for someone who cannot get a girl the usual way because he is such a loser, that he has to PAY for people who aren't family to be with him.


ammie
He's helping himself. Would he say this if he went to prostitutes at home? Doubt it. Some guys treat the women well, but how would he feel if he discovered the woman he'd been paying was HIV positive? Bet he wouldn't feel so charitable then. If he wants to help the women he could give money to an NGO but no, he wants something tangible for his money. Tell him if he wants to help the women there are plenty of things he can do and they don't involve screwing them. Luckily, the Thai girls are not stupid. He could well be the one getting screwed.

ARKU - been to Thailand many times, never screwed a hooker, physically or financially. Know lots of men who've been there and some have some haven't but to assume all would just shows you're in the gutter boy.


papabear098
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Thai has the one of the most infected AIDS epidemic in the world .


gix
Rating
no. but he can spend his money how he wants. just tell him stay safe


wilma p
yes of course he is lol


camsean73
Rating
He doesn't to justify his decision. It is his and the women that he meets choice as to what they do.


Rick
No. If he wants to help the Thai economy, go to tsunami-affected areas and eat and tour. Most of the women are not working in the sex trade voluntarily - most are forced into a degrading life to make money for their families. He is also risking STDs. But, I am impressed that he is so noble that he is willing to travel all that way to be so kind to bargirls and prostitutes!


Shadow_Dancer
No, he is kidding himself.


leekier
Of course not. He's planning to exploit their poverty and put money into the pockets of the gangsters who run the sex industry.
How does that help the economy?


brokeneyebounce
lol


sosgez
Surely he could do better at Butlins.


uksawatdii
No

OK He may help the Thai Economy with extra Baht for Hotels, Taxis, Food, Bars and Girls.

But above all he is helping himself to his Pounds of Flesh


Amelie
No, it's disgusting.


As_It_Is
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What what Ive researched there is free and pushed prostituion.

The pushed ie pimped is more in the thai side of things, often hidden away in barber shops etc.

The gogo bar girls for the most part are free agents taking advantage of western walking atms.

And earn a good wage and the girls look after each other.

So providing he stickes with this side of things his argument may be sound... and does not go near anything more 'dodgy' ie underage kids, anything which looks forced etc.

And treats the girls right like any one night stand.

Often the girls will recognise the guys after and say hi and be friendly. Maybe if the guys are nieve con them with stories such as family buffaoo is sick and stuff... ie both sides playing the other.



Ie girls exploit lonely guys for cash, guys make the most of avaialble girls looking for cash


Nigerian woman
many ppl got AIDS


n they still do not know it


eastglam
In Thailand sex with anyone over the age of 16 or perhaps 18 is perfectly legal, so he can have all the sex he wants with people over these ages, and no one can stop him.

But I agree he will be a fool to think that he can have it without consequences either financially, healthy-wise or judging from some of the comments on this thread without some form of moral indignation.

Most single people who travel either domestically or internationally on business or leisure have a sexual encounter or two at some time during their stay.

God if I did it in Spain in 1968 when I was young who is not going to do it now.

Anyway how do you prove in a court or law that someone who has sex in a country other than his or her own is a sex tourist?

I believe there is only one country in the world where sex is illegal and that is the Vatican State - and who in their right mind wants to live there.


arku19462004
All these people who have answered your question are hypocrats. If given a chance to go to Thailand, they will also indulge in sex there if they get a chance. I appreciate your brother, that he is so open minded and frank. In my view, the sex iindustry in Thailand is there to stay. It cant be taken away now that its roots have become very strong. Ask your brother to be careful about avoiding AIDS. Everything else is okay.

P.S. I see that some people have not liked my views and even have said bad words about me. Well, my views still remain the same. Whatever said and done, Thailand remains sex capital of the world. Just somebody should tell me, if they have figures, of fall in number of tourists to Thailand if complete ban is imposed on sex in Thailand. In my view 50% downfall will be there in number of tourists visiting Thailand. It would be like USA where prohibition was imposed at one time and it failed miserably.





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