Opinion on Catholic Church asking condom ads be ban in Philippines?

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diwata

Changing the age at which people can marry seems like another example of the church trying to exert their will and control over others. It would also be a violation of basic human rights to prevent two grown adults of legal age from marrying each other.
It would do nothing to prevent sex before marriage, but would in fact encorage the exact opposite - more unwed mothers than ever before!
As for banning of condom advertisements, this simply goes to show how out of touch the church is with todays world. Generations ago it may have been best for families to have many children, but these days studies have shown that in order to break out of the endless cycle of poverty, people must learn to use sensible family planning. Education is one of the most powerful tools to break away from a poor background and ensure the success of the next generation, but time and time again those who are educated are seen to turn away from the catholic religion.
Having large families that they cannot afford to clothe, feed or educate adequately ensures that the cycle continues - everyone remains impoverished and uneducated - but at least they don't turn away from the church!
A church which would wish to perpetuate poverty and misery is not one which I can have any kind of respect for.
A church which would deny young women the chance of a career, family planning, sexual health etc would appear to grossly anti-women's rights.
I hope common sense will prevail, and the people of the Philippines would fight to ensure their rights to freedom of marriage, sex education and sexual health remain intact. Keeping people ignorant does not ensure their safety!

bounce_00

The argument that those money which should be spent to condoms be spent feeding the poor is a narrow alibi to curb out the real problem.
Why not the church sell all its possessions, donate all its lands and construct houses for the poor? Why not convert hectares of seminaries to low cost housing? Why not sell all the priced possessions of the church for job creations? Why not open catholic-run exclusive schools for the poor? These are what Christ taught right?

If they will do this, I will join them in their crusade for banning condom. Why ask the government to use its money for this and that, and keep the church alms to beautify their cathedrals?

The analogy is, if you feed the poor, it is as if, you are giving him fish, but as the Chinese saying goes, "Dont give man a fish, teach him how to fish". Our land area is so small with almost 90 million Filipinos. If we do not take actions to control the population or at least slow its growth, we will be leaving in a shoebox sooner or later.

The people who bear children, where in fact they know they do not have anything to feed them is more immoral than those individuals who avoid having chidlren, using condom. We blame the government for lack of jobs, food and shelter, but come to think of it, we cannot support our entire ballooning populace.

Just thinking.

Sanmigsean

The Catholic Church (as well as every other religion) is nothing more than a business. Since part of their tactic is to brainwash children to follow them, they encourage their patrons (customers, followers, sheep, whatever ...) to reproduce in order to ensure a constant stream of an increasing captive market.

All of these money-making organizations need to secure future business.

I Love Howie Carr

Hmm, I don't see anything about a lawsuit, it just seems like the Catholic Church expressed their opinion on the immorality of spending government money on condoms when it could be used to feeding people or education other better causes. They're allowed to have an opinion, just like you. The government of the Philippines seems to want to use birth control to control population growth, not for health reasons, which is a red herring. Maybe if Filipinos would stop having so much sex or purchased their own protection before they had sex, they wouldn't need government-provided birth control.

paris.hilltop

Condom Facts Sheet

1. "24 sets of condoms tested and all failed" and almost 71% failed "In respect of one or more of the physical requirements of the specification, notably freedom from pinholes." SABS report April 89.

2. "Spillage from condoms occurs as much as 65% to 75% of the time." Bjorklund and Gordon. Univ of Manitoba. Nov. 1990.

3. "The rubber comprising latex condom has intrinsic voids about 5 microns in size." The HIV virus is 0.1 micron. Roland, Rubber World. June 1993. Roland and Sobieski, Rubber Chemistry and Technology. Vol. 62, 1989.

4. Condoms reduce the risk of HIV infection by about 70% if they are used "consistently and correctly" IPPF (International Planned Parenthood Federation) Medical Bulletin Feb. 1997.
5."It is not established whether the condom is as effective at preventing heterosexual transmission of HIV as it is for preventing conception." "The level of protection approximates 87%, with a range depending upon the incidence (of HIV) among condom nonusers. Thus the condom's efficacy at reducing heterosexual transmission may be comparable to or slightly lower than its effectiveness at preventing pregnancy." Family Planning Perspectives, 1999.

6. The failure rate for condoms in preventing pregnancy is 10%. K. Niswander. Manual of Obstetrics 1980.

7. The ISO standard for condoms allows 2 per 350 to be defective (about six defects per thousand.) (Tough luck if you happen to be one of those six)

8. "Increased condom use will increase the number of [HIV/AIDS] transmissions that result from condom failure" and "a vigorous condom promotion policy could increase rather than decrease unprotected sexual exposure if it has the unintended effect of encouraging a greater overall level of sexual activity." "Condoms and seat belts: the parallels and the lessons" The Lancet, 29 Jan 2000

9. In one test, 33% of latex condoms leaked HIV sized particles. Sexually Transmitted Diseases. vol.19. 1992

10. Ontario Ministry of Health campaign to promote condoms by means of televised AIDS messages made respondents more inclined to use condoms but less inclined to avoid casual sexual partners. Wilde, Target Risk, PDE Publications, 1994.

11. IPPF indicates that the risk of contracting AIDS during so-called "protected sex" approaches 100 percent as the number of episodes of sexual intercourse increases. Cates Medical Bulletin, IPPF 1997.

12. The only sure ways to avoid sexual transmission of diseases (including AIDS, chlamydia, genital herpes, genital warts, gonorrhoea, hepatitis B, and syphilis) are not to have sex at all or to limit sex to one uninfected partner who is also monogamous. Food and Drug Administration (USA) Consumer Magazine Sep 1990.

peanutz

Well, the Church is pro-creation while condom is the opposite. The Church has to stands its ground, it is a principle it has to address. So, do not judge the Church action on your own.

This looks like a question on theology, best to let the experts resolve this.

ericka

not reasonable. because contraceptives are not really used to kill a life. how can you kill someone who is not even exisitng?

well, they can ban these condom ads as long as they want but they have to take care of the population growth - provide shelter, job, and food, and education to everyone who will be born because of not using condoms or contraceptives.

fair deal?

elel

Its all freaking politics and business man... We still have a lot of those traditional (lihitimong) catholics that are very easy to manipulate... It makes me very upset when i see a homeless person with 10 kids, very foolish of them... At this point in time, with all your respect .. we need to change our beliefs and stop that pro-life shiit!!! People are suffering.. Need to be Pro-choice and managing birth controls. Lets put it this way ... If you were God wouldn't you rather choose a person using birth controls (condoms), than a person bring a child into the world that you know because (poverty) they are very poor that the child will have a miserable time for the rest of their life?

Binibini

that is a bunch of BULLCRAP!!!

now the Catholics want to rule over every body's lives.

if they are so against the contraception then why don't they feed, educate all the poor people in the Philippines since they are the only one who keeps getting richer.

mickel

i dont think the philippines is overpopulated..
population is never a problem for me since they are resources.. they can be good for us if used properly..

but, using condoms should not be banned..
i think the catholic church is just being dumb in the philppines.. sorry..

i dont like what they are doing. they think that since they made some impact on our history, they can just get whatever they want.

the state respectes the individuality of the church.. i hope the church also respects the state.. they are both different.. i hope that the church will just leave the government in making it policies. they may say that they have a duty but they are going back to the time when the church and state was one... its totally different now..!

im sick of them.. religion in government? imposing a morality of a certain religion to the whole population? .. just sick

imacatholic2

I thought there was democracy and freedom of religion in the Philippines.

Why cannot the citizens of the Philippines who are Catholics endeavor to change laws through the proper legal process in the Philippines?

Can only non-religious people (Atheists?) take part in the political arena?

The Church is primarily a spiritual body but she is also a moral teacher.

If people are going to make moral issues into political ones then they should not complain when the Church uses her freedoms of speech and religion.

When you look at the 1.1 billion believers worshiping in over 200,000 parishes worldwide you can see that the Catholic Church is a spiritual entity.

However the Church is also a moral teacher and has been teaching the world what she believes God thinks is right and wrong for almost 2,000 years.

The Church looks to protect human dignity and human rights and does not for look for political power. Church leaders are barred from political office by Church law, not civil law (Canon 285.3).

Jesus said, "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:18-20)

The Catholic Church has been teaching world governments what she believes is right and wrong since the ancient Romans stopped persecuting her and long before anyone heard of the freedom of speech.

The Catholic Church protested about the blood sports in the Roman Colosseum and they were stopped.

The Catholic Church supported the Polish Solidarity movement and the Soviet Union fell apart.

I don't think the Church is going to (or should) stop teaching the world governments what is right or wrong now.

Remember the Catholic Church proposes. She does not impose.

With love in Christ.

pero_102

not practical, it's reality, instead of banning the decent ad of condoms, why don't the catholic church ban the ads of intoxicants, the airing of scantily cloth women on all medias,the banning of bars and nightclubs,and go for the approval of divorce, polygyny, and lower marrying age like the muslims, 12 or once a female starts to have their monthly periods.I reckon men would be afraid to exploit women when they can be easily caught up for a marriage contract.
this is one reason why i left the leniency or double standard of christianity and converted to islam, although not completely flawless, but more reasonable.

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Jdriven

Some of the best advertising birth control could get.
All the time they are dutifully saying don't advertise they aren't saying don't use. They are sneaky like that.

artsupremo

I think ad ban on the use of condom should be pursued. When the young knows that condom is easily available they will tend to experiment and will result to many teen-agers having sex at a young age.

alan

Are we going back to the bad old days? where the church forbids the people to learn about science and technology or to control our lives. Legal age of marriage.....at 24? to me no problem at all, anyway at 14 or 16 they get preggy. But the church to dictate our life? No way. The church ask services from the people without a compensation. If the people need services from the church, you go to the office first, pay the amount for the services you want from the church, then the priest will come out. thats true..........i've seen this many times.

DanG

Let's be open minded.
We are over populated.
There's nothing we can do to stop sex because it's human nature.

StabMaster Arson

pretty dumb

shangri_la111

it reminds me of the sinking of the titanic ..at the timea lot of noise and turbulence but soon nothing. we had this scenario in ireland in the 70s. . A lot of hot air at the time then nothing....................the younger generation in the philippines wont takea blind bit of notice of the catholic church..............soon condoms will be widely available/advertised and people with just get on with their lives and use or not use them as they see fit..........
I hope filipinos do use more condoms...........many families are too large .maybe not even one bread winner among 9 or 10. How they survive i dont know. Too few jobs even for the present population of circa 90 million. Many women die young from things like high blood pressure assocaite d with givening birth too often and without proper medical help. The view from the college of cardinals in rome or the cardinal of the philippines in his palace is very different to the worn out women trapped ina loveless marraige with too many kids to feed already. an unemployed husband and no hope.

JAMES S

The Catholic Presets have enough little boys to play with!
When they run out of little boys.

awaken.dawn

Once the Catholic Priests are allowed to get married , they will view this sympathetically

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