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What is a non bumiputera ? |
What is a non bumiputera? Is he/ she classified as a second class citizen? I mean, is Malaysia the same country that's claiming to be well on it's way to first world status by 2020. You do realise that first world status does not only apply to economic growth, social growth is considered the epitome of first world status, or do we just not care? What is this propoganda anyways in the last UMNO rally?
And would someone clarify this for me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketuanan_Melayu Additional Details So Shah, please explain ketuanan melayu to me......... |
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grendeth
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You want to know what is so screwed up about this. Its in the schools. You know the Bumiputras need to score less to get a better grade and lower requirement to enter the local universities & get to their preferred choice of degrees.
It is true that equal distribution of the wealth did happen after independance and needed to happen but after 50 years, the inequal sharing of the wealth & continuos discrimination base on color and religion is just sad.
Can you tell me why in the school exams is there any need for you to put in your race?. Of course the bumis don't see is this way because if you ask most Malays, the answer is simple, 'if you don't like it...leave because you were never part of Malaya anyway'. |
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Shinou Atsumu
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What is a non-bumiputera? Non-bumi in the land of Malaysia is used for the minority races like Chinese and Indians. Your link says it all. The minorities are called second class citizen simply because our forefathers migrated to Malaya decades ago. In Chinese, we are called 二ç‰å…¬æ°‘. So, we are the immigrants here. Apparently the bumis still have that mentality no matter how much we sacrifice, slog and bleed for this country, we will still be looked upon as nothing more than immigrants and will never be loyal to this country. But they have not thought that by setting all this disparity and restrictions, how can the non-bumis have a sense of belonging? And by claiming that this land belongs to ONLY you is so selfish.
My personal opinion is Malaysia will never fulfill its dreams of Wawasan 2020 in time. Not with the kinds of baboon politicians that we have. Malaysia will celebrate its half a century birthday soon and yet its 'sons of the soil' only has a mindset befitting of a 7 year old child.
Who is trying to challenge their rights or take away their dignity? All we ask is just for EQUAL RIGHTS. The Bumis should really heed the advices of former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohammad who has bemoaned the extreme reliance of Bumiputras on their privileges: "We have tried to tell them if you depend on subsidies, you are going to be very weak. But they don’t seem to understand. We tell them if you use crutches, you will not be able to stand up. Throw away the crutches, stand up straight because you still have the capacity. I have talked about this thing and as a doctor I know very well the meaning of crutches but somehow or rather they want the easy way out. If I get an AP and I sell it and make some money, it’s all right, they say."
Hehe Haha is so right to refer to apartheid in SA. It was only there for 45 years. We have special privileges for the 'sons of the soil' for like how many years now? Well, all I can say is good job. Continue to rely lah on this special privileges and let's see who will continue to prosper in years to come.
I really don't want to say more now. You have really got me provoked when I read through the whole article. If I continue on, I will never stop condemning those political baboons of ours. |
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The Malays by themselves are only just short of 50% of Malaysia's population so they included other indiginous people and now totalling about 55% to 60% called themselves collectively as "bumiputeras" or sons of the earth. Under the constitution they gave themselves special rights over other Malaysians who are the non-bumiputeras.
As you rightly put it, the non bumiputeras are the second class citizens.
After 50 years of independence we still have a racist constitution whereas aparteid has long disappeared from South Africa.
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For clickless, the analogy to American red indians is similar but not exact. The original inhabitants are the aboriginals known as "Orang Asli" , or the "original people" . When the Malays came over the last 1,000 years from where Yunan now is, they drove the orang asli out from the fertile valleys to the hill lands. That was in the Malaysian history books before it got changed about 20-30 years ago (Please check this out!). Even the Malays are immigrants (1,000 years or so, in numbers about 600 years ago) whereas the Chinese first arrived about 400 years ago (in numbers about 150 years ago) and the Indians mostly around 100 -150 years ago. As in America, the older groups of immigrants have the toughest stance against the more recent arrivals. To the red indians and orang asli, they are all immigrants. |
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no money
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actually bumiputras or non bumiputras are the same its just that bumiputras enjoy special.........(cant find a word.. special wat?)
second class citizens are those who migrated in malaysia.
This stupid bumiputra thing, that is unfair to people.
i wonder what malaysia will be if all non-bumiputras leave malaysia.
there are so ungrateful! |
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Oriental Legend
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Ermmmm,they get 5% discount in O.C. Obtained buldings in Malaysia................................... |
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Malayan Tiger
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A non bumiputera means we work hard for our living without being given special treatment by the government. What we have is what we earned. We do not owe the stinking government anything. They should stop collecting taxes from us, instead collect from the privileged one. |
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dk
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The non-bumiputera are those ethnic groups like chinese and indian. Like it or not the non-bumiputera are the second class citizen.
As far as i know our country is not progress toward this wawasan 2020. If the economic plans are still following the ideas of previous Malaysia Plans, there is no way we can achieved this goal.
Since we are all the same countryman, why can't we all have the equal right? |
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anderson
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i think "lee kwan yew" will very much like to answer this question, hehe..... its a long history. |
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supportobrigional
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i dont think there are black and white saying that non bumi are 2nd class citizen, how could they. They merely give the rights to the bumi. The right to have benefits that non bumi could not enjoy, small matter to the bumi as non bumi owed them (ketuanan melayu loosely meant malay boss). However the consequences of theses rights has now further pulled the whole nation down. Lower education level to match the bumi's level (Malaysia U has been out of the international level for long long time) IT has been term like what the Philippine now is suffering, everybody ends up a u graduates but it is not recognisable outside their own country and for Malaysia is even worst, now there about 60K jobless.( If the government could stop their strong Islam fundamental views , 30% share to bumi ..otherwise it would further drive the investors away)No doubts some here argued that there are bumi who did not or do not received such benefits. Yes, but will you return the 7% entitled to you when you purchase a house? Do you also give up your local U seat to a non bumi if his or her Qualification is better than you? Another good example if one can remember about 7 or 8 years ago, Nanyang Siang Pau (one of the few chinese press that is not under a political party) reported a huge number of full A's non bumi scorers being denied a local U seat.....few months down the road, the ex PM has instructed his obedient dog , MCA's President to acquire this press and caused a choas in MCA, which lead to the resignation of the President later on. What do you call this? No No is not 2nd class citizen, merely the quota's issue? And now Nanyang is on sale again after the firing of the former Chief Editor. If Nanyang did exxpose this piece of news, I m sure many frogs are still under the well, living in denial and the much orchestered harmony portrait by the politician. And the Nanyang's case is just one of the many dirty linen that are happening, which of course you can chose to believe or not? But if there's no fire, there's no smoke.
Last but not least, the rights has been there for/to abuse and the worst part is the politicians has been using it to garner the bumi votes and on the other hand making tons and tons of $ amongst themselves and the cronies. Whereby poor malays would think they have not acheived what the government has promise, and would seek for extension and the non bumi would think why bumi still need cruthches when non bumi are also suffering? I think the bumi could make it even without the crutches if only they try and also to think further!
p/s malay is so scared that they are being stripped of their country cause in the first place they are also immigrant and their history are only about 700 yrs in Malayisa. The actual bumi sould be the current orang asli ie aboriginals. Not sure where the Malay came from but could be traced back that they are one of the ethnic group from Yunnan, China. As Chinese and Indian could be traced to China and India respectively, I m really not sure where the Malay came from, seriously? It is really soaring whereby Indian, Chinese could trace their roots and have their own culture and civilasation back to thousands years ago. Thus, hope you could understand their insecurities even in their own country so called Malaysia.
By the way, i careless about the thumbs. Cheers! |
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Passo L
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Why not you tell us how they define bumiputera and to justify themselves as the 1st class citizen, where actually they are migrated from the south China too! |
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D.Connolly
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hmm i think its non-malay
i have no idea whats bumiputera actually |
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Say what?
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please be aware that u are inciting something here. all malaysian are aware of this issue, u dont have to add fuel to the fire.
bumiputra are said to be protected by certain rights, whether to date this rights are still being exercised onto the bumiputra or not, it remained a status carried by many regardless of race.
non bumiputra are not second class citizen, why would any individual malaysian feel like a second class citizen.. bumiputra or not, everybody is subjected to the same legal, social and moral duty. Everybody enjoys the same subsidised privilege. So bumiputra / non bumiputra is just a status. |
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Bumiputra or Bumiputera (Malay, from Sanskrit Bhumiputra; translated literally, it means "son of the soil"), is an official definition widely used in Malaysia, embracing ethnic Malays as well as other indigenous ethnic groups such as the Orang Asli in Peninsular Malaysia and the tribal peoples in Sabah and Sarawak. Economic policies designed to favour Bumiputras (including affirmative action in public education) were implemented in the 1970s in order to defuse inter-ethnic tensions following the May 13 Incident in 1969, but these have not been fully effective in eradicating poverty among rural bumiputras and have further caused a backlash of resentment on the part of non-bumi ethnic groups.
Check out more on this link to further understand this matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumiputra |
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clickless
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I've never been to Malaysia but i'm pretty sure that word got something to do with immigrants coming from an another land. If i'm not mistaken, Malaysians originally came from india. So, malaysians are typically like americans, they originally came from europe and raped the land of the red indians once they reached there. |
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azayi1
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whatever that is..
i'm proud being bumiputera & nothing can change the fact of bumiputera's status.. vision 2020 will become reality..
for the asker.. email me if u want to know the whole story.. |
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AK
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The term Bumiputra `sons of the soil' is used in Malaysia for all Malay speakers and other indigenous peoples, who are of the Malay `race' but not necessarily mother-tongue speakers of Malay. Chinese, Indians, and others ( lain-lain) are by definition non- Bumiputra (NB) (source; wikipedia)
NB are not second class citizens. They have never been racially segregated in Malaysia neither have they been denied of their constitutional rights. NB are active participants in the country's economy even to the extent of dominating several key industries in Malaysia.
The NEP (Special Privilleges) provides a balance in the Bumi and Non-Bumi participation in the nations economy. This is very important towards maintaining peace and racial harmony. It is right if we were to discuss the ABUSE of such priviliges, It is right if we were to question the manner of distribution for such privilleges.
I believe that one of the major factors that can be attributed to Malaysia being free of racially motivated clashes or riots are mechanisms that promote article 153 such as the NEP. It had given the opportunity to the Bumiputra to participate in the economy and not politicise over their lack of opportunity or question the domination of the country's economy by the Non-Bumis'.
What infuriates me is how such privilleges has been made to be similar to that of apartheid is South Africa. Mind you, Apartheid had taken away the rights of the natives/sons' of soil to the extent they are prohibited not only from doing business but are restricted to enter a White Only designated zone. Even public transportation was segregated; Whites & Non Whites. The end of apartheid was a victory to the "son's of soil".
Malaysia is only reaching 50, overall i feel that the racial integration (social growth) that exist here is something that we all can be proud of and can even put shame to the social growth rate of 'First World' status nations. Look at the US, how long did it took the African Americans to gain civil rights. I mean can you imagine first world countries such as the U.S, Australia or the UK having its top 10 wealthiest individuals to be 90% comprising of 'non-bumis'?
The notion of NB being second class citizens should be dispelled. I am a Bumiputra, I did not received any form of scholarships from the government, i have never received any form of grants/subsidies from the government and had worked equally hard to build my business together with my NB partners. Does that make me a Second Class Bumiputra? I think not. |
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Shah
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I disagree with those above. Malays can do well by themselves. But that is not the point, Malays or not, we are all Malaysians & should work together. Bumiputera's only gain a small benefit out of fairness. |
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