Why are malaysian muslims so judgmental of other muslims?

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manjeff

Nice question! well if it really happens, it's so sad & bad. By the way, i got my personal opinion regarding this matter. Maybe they are (Malaysian muslims) judgemental towards other muslims because they thought the muslims around the world should be in one basket not 2 or more. But in reality, when they look abroad, they found there are lot of differences among them. This happens due to universal concept of Islam, where the followers are not necessarily obliged to omit their culture, tradition and heritage so long as they are not contradictory to Islamic teachings. The Malaysian muslims by at large still preserve their own culture & tradition which definately might encounter insimilarity from other muslims' culture around the world. For example, the Arab muslims (male) found it very common to hug and kiss each other when they meet, but for Malaysian Muslims, it's a kind of strange thing. The same goes to differences from other aspect of social life. It's true that most Malaysian muslims receive their religion education from government schools which apply moderate approach, but in other muslim world, they are receive that from their respective scholars directly by which there are hardly any systimized syllabus and standard of teaching. They learned what conveyed to them and most of the time the scholars' personality influence them greatly. Or may be, due to the rapid development of economy and infrastrucuture in Malaysia over the last 15 - 20 years, the Malaysian Muslims living in comfort zone tend to look down at other less - developed muslim countries. It's just my personal opinion without prejudice to any muslim around the world. By Manjeff / a malaysian muslim.

HammaR

Seniority Matter,senhores.
'It would be Who hath tought you in the first place,
and ye' cometh next after me' attutude.
their accounting records always from their 1st hand experiences,
weren't they. Historicaly,that is.
They set their Altitude so high, buum you'd be NEXT

GOKTUG Z

Turks are more judgement

Asitis

agree with someone, but someone could have said it in such a way that anak sendu wont regard it as being judgmental on him...for he might NOT be the sort of people who can admit that he'd done wrong, eventhough the wrong/sin is done openly in public and being proud of it.

"Who r we to judge others" applicable only in certain situation n to know in which situation does it applies, u must learn more about Islam n not be so judgmental yourself in generalising that malaysian muslim r so judgemental of other muslims!

happy

No offence to other malay malaysians here. i think what anak_sendu is saying is quite true...they are very sarcastic.. usually i went johor bahru city square n went shopping .. when i was changing money there was a policeman who saying to his collegue, i translate it in malay for those non malays- he said ," hey get lets get out of here... makes my eyes painful seeing this singaporeans here." i was like what the #$@%@. hell i went to KL before and just because being a muslim n paying by credit card.. they were like huh ? are you sure!!.. they just wont help other malays especially if your not a local.

Koran

I agree with you

Pudge_Monsta

They are a bunch of retards that if ask probably can't even translate the Quran for you. What bothers me the most is that they would say this and that and when you ask them where in the Quran can you show me that mention this and they will just shut up. They read the Quran in Arabic and dont know what it means so they make up all this rules thats not even real. Plus like any other superior religion they think they are better in that country.
True believer never judge! Too many fanatics that arent even sure what they are a fan of.

kzzxguy

bec they think they r smart and move advance compare to other muslim countries.
but actually they r worst .. look at their leaders.. fighting with one another bec of wealth and self interest

optimistic_pessimist1985

It's the same the world over.

However, Malaysian muslims are more conventional. That could be a reason why (even though they are not as traditional as the Middle East).

NO COMMENTS........

lazuardi.sepi

Why you called it as criticize? It not criticize... in islam, we must 'nasihat-menasihati' ( remind each other ). In islam, all Muslim is brother & sister. Allah said if someone do mistake, others must warning that person. ""Agama itu adalah nasihat."
..." That what Muhammad said. If people just close their eyes, that mean we just allow crime happen infront us... Allah hate that! Please dun talk about religion if u dunno about religion! Dun use Allah name!

See what happen when Iraq attack Kuwait on 1990? U must take it as moral to build ur life. Kuwait that time got alot of millionaire ( Muslim ). But what happen to Kuwait? What happen to Iraq?

Now, Malaysia is one of the modern islamic country... u can see most of islamic countries at outside so poor, but Malaysia? We can prove to others that Muslim is not weak!

Please again, dun talk about religion if u dunno about it!

U r Indonesian, rite? Look at ur country! What happen to Indonesia today? U can see the most of disaster at Indonesia, why? I can say Allah judge them! The largest population of Muslim in this world? Yuck! I can say Indonesia now is NOTHING! Why? Bcos people like u! They just close their eyes. Nobody want to judge others, nobody want to critic others, nobody want care about others! Who is rich, they will be more rich... and who is poor will be poorest!

U must know Allah give the authority to the human to judge each other! If people cannot judge others, it is mean Rasulullah is sinful! In Rasulullah era, they already got the rules... already got hudud, qisas and so on! B4 he die, he told to his followers, WHO WANT DO QISAS ON ME, I'M READY TO GET IT! IT IS BETTER U JUDGE ME BCOS MY MISTAKE TO U ALL BEFORE ALLAH JUDGE ME!. See, Rasulullah didnot say people cannot judge each other!

People, open ur mind!We r not sarcastic but we use our mind before talking...

"Apabila engkau melihat umatku takut untuk untuk berkata kepada si zalim ( like u ), wahai si zalim, maka sesungguhnya diterima ucapan selamat tinggal daripadanya."

hype!

Agree with someone
Al-Ashr : 103 : 1-3

103:1 By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),
103:2 Verily Man is in loss
103:3 Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy

( 103:1 Demi masa 103:2 Sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar berada dalam kerugian 103:3 Kecuali orang2 yang beriman & mengerjakan amal soleh dan nasihat menasihati supaya menetapi kesabaran )

We never judge others ( how we can judge other bcos we didnot put u all under ICJ...we just judge by using the words... that is 'nasihat' )

Dun be the liar! Especially Karen
26 : 221 Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend? 222 They descend upon every sinful liar, 223 and impart what they have heard; but most of them are liars.

224 And the poets do those follow who go astray! 225 Dost thou not see that they wander distraught in every vale? 226 And that they say that which they do not do? 227 Save those who believe, and do right, and remember God much, 228 and defend themselves after they are wronged; but those who do wrong shall know with what a turn they shall be turned.

To Happy,
You must know that Singapore got conflict with Malaysia. You must know some of citizens ( either Malaysian or Singaporean ) got the bad opinion about each other. And have u see any Malaysian throw the stone or anything to u? have u see everytime Malaysian look at u like they wanna eat u? If you hate us, so stop to window shopping at here! No compulsion!

Wallahualam!

stacey

Perhaps the ones who are supercritical (and this, sadly includes some of the so called holy men) are generally not very well educated and are insular. When you're born a Malay, generally speaking, you're also born a Muslim. So there's culture and religion mixed together. I've even heard the term 'masuk melayu' (enter malay) instead of entering Islam. So to many, being a muslim is a malay heritage. I know of non-malay muslims who aren't as well accepted by malay muslims even though they are spiritual brothers. Some Malay Muslims don't realize that there are way more Chinese Muslims in China than Malay Muslims.

It probably comes down to ignorance and insecurity. Then they wouldn't feel so threatened or defensive about their faith. Those who choose to be Muslim educate themselves on the religion before converting (I would hope, anyway). Those brought up in the religion should study their faith with as much zeal instead of just accepting what the schools and parents tell them. Then, I feel that there would be a realisation that we do what we must and the judgment will be done on the last day.

ViRg()

One word... JEALOUSY. Who knows for sure? I just think they like to be the way they are out of spite to prove to others, not just Muslims, that they're far better.
It's not just the Malays though, I think it applies to everyone in the human race.
We're always going to be judgmental no matter what our racial/ cultural background may be...
People generally can't accept someone having more material wealth than them, is better looking, more intelligent, the list goes on.
And I agree with your point that only God has the authority to separate what's right from wrong.

msianmania

I totally agree with you. Well said !

Jason F

malaysian muslims are certainly more moderate than muslims from the middle east.

Sarah

well said Ajnabi baby....i am a convert ...but now i see all the negatives of muslim rather than the positive... :-(

GEN Gamer

you're talking about those from kelantan and trengganu right? those were PAS are in charge? iw ould like to visit there and see how it really is like to live over there.

esp non muslims having to put up with those very rigorous islamic practices they impose there

izyorke4767

well by saying that malaysian muslims are being judgemental, means you are also judging them, doesnt it? only difference is you are on the other side of the coin.

yes, who are we to judge others. and who are others to judge us. it works both ways dearie.

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