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Do you think that Australia's new sorry day should be a public holiday?? |
I DO!!! =]
then wed all appreciate it more =] Additional Details in other countries they have heaps more Public Holidays. They shouldnt take one away...just add this one on. =] |
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Ross M
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Yes, it is a day all Australians can share |
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munro5112
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NO and He shouldn't have said Sorry either.
We are Not responsible for the then "intention to do good" of a previous generations way of thinking and now having to pay. There were many others also "stolen" and all in this category should get on with life and live. Thanks to Ruddy Krudd looks like we will have to fork out $$'s that I have worked hard for and paid in my taxation. Paying for someone Else's old mistake should not be accountable to us. |
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mmdjaajl
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a paid day off sounds good but the reason you want it for wrong
i never stole any kids & know nobody who did either
so i have no reason to apolagise & dont think the present day goverment needs to either
it is history in the past it was wrong (cant be undone)so leave it alone now |
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Chris R
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NO
I feel sad about the things that happened.
But I DIDN'T do it.
I'm NOT saying sorry. |
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rowanc88
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Eh.. not really
It'd be a massive excuse for a day off |
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Bardy
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NO!! Now lets put sorry behind us and move on. What is past is past and we learn from it, not keep living it every year. |
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Elizabeth
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I don't think so.
Which public holiday will they take off us to give us Sorry Day?
I doubt we will get another paid day off, so we'd lose one we already have. |
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purplebuggy
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No. Just no. |
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Steve B
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No, next thing you'll be finding more excuses for a holiday. In Australia public holidays are just seen as another day off work and nobody cares about the meaning. |
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Sunny 1st
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No. Let's all move on from here and for heavens sake stop going on and on about this. The Govt did what they thought was right at the time - they wanted to HELP the children - give them improved health, lifestyle and education - they weren't doing it out of hate. What can't anyone else see that? Do other countries apologise for their settlements? Does the victorious country in a war apologise to the losers? I think this is just an excuse to get more handouts. Can't we get past this and all get along? |
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Honey Bee
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Even if it did turn into a public holiday I would still go to work to mark the fact that I am not sorry. I didn't steal anyone's children and I hate the fact that Kevin apologied on MY behalf to all aboriginies. |
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FORKY
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NO,its a joke anyway,sorry- sorry for what?? |
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cjid84
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Definately not |
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razorz3dg3
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Heck NO!
And anyways if it was a puplic holiday it wouldnt affect the aboriginal comunity... 90% of em don't work anyways it would just be another day!
BTW im not sorry either, not this generations fault for what happened so why should we have to put up with this bulldung! |
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wotzthepoint?
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Editor of The National Indigenous Times Chris Graham writes:
Thereâs nothing like a little âsorryâ debate to get white Australia all red and puffy. Hereâs a punterâs guide to exploding 10 of the more virulent myths surrounding a national apology to members of the Stolen Generations:
It was done by a previous generation.
Not correct. Of all the Stolen Generations myths, this is the biggest. If it were âprevious generationsâ, then surely thereâd be no-one left to apologize to? The facts are that the removal of Aboriginal children continued well into the 1960s and early 1970s. Itâs worth noting it was absolutely raging during the late 1950s, when a small, lispy man named John Howard was serving as president of the NSW Young Liberals.
Saying sorry wonât deliver better results in health, housing or education.
Hereâs a surprising revelation for you -- saying sorry is not supposed to deliver health, housing and education. Equally, saying sorry wonât prevent governments from delivering health, housing and education. This particular objection is perhaps the dumbest of them all and is run by conservatives like Warren Mundine, Noel Pearson and The Australian. Its fundamental flaw is that it relies on the premise that Australia is so backward as a nation we canât deliver practical outcomes while simultaneously delivering symbolic gestures. In other words, we canât walk and chew gum at the same time.
I will not be made to feel guilt and shame for something I didnât do.
In the case of younger Australians who were not alive during the removal practices, the word âSorryâ does not have to be an expression of shame or guilt. It can be an expression of empathy, as in âIâm sorry to hear your mum diedâ or âIâm sorry you got hurt in that car accidentâ. Personally, I was born in 1972 when government started to abandon the removal policies. I donât feel shame at my personal actions, but I do feel shame at the actions of my country. As for older Australians, many claim âI had nothing to do with itâ. Well, thatâs part of the problem â bad things happen when good people stay silent. The point is not that older Australians participated in the removal process, but that they did nothing to stop it. Saying âBut I didnât know it was happeningâ is certainly more than sufficient to keep you out of a court of law, but itâs not enough to excuse you from a collective national apology. If youâre still confused on this front, you might recall that several years ago, John Howard apologized to Vietnam Veterans for their treatment when they returned from the war. Again, having been born in 1972, I didnât mistreat Vietnam Veterans. But I had absolutely no problem with the PM saying sorry to them on my behalf, because I am sorry (and I ashamed for my nation) that they were treated so poorly.
Some Aboriginal leaders have said an apology is not important.
Sure, but almost every one of them (hi Warren, hi Noel!) are not members of the Stolen Generations. Their views on whether or not an apology is warranted are no more or less relevant than your or my view⊠because none of us are victims.
Aboriginal people canât even agree on an apology.
Wow, Aboriginal people have this amazing thing called âindependent thoughtâ. The facts are that some members of the Stolen Generations donât want an apology. Thatâs their right. But the overwhelming majority do. Thatâs also their right.
It costs us nothing.
Contrary to popular opinion, a national apology will have no legal affect on the capacity of members of the Stolen Generations to seek compensation. As a nation, an apology costs us nothing. Period.
I didnât do it!
No, you didnât. But you certainly benefited from it. Just as all Australians today, even some black Australians (hi Noel, hi Warren!) have directly benefited from the theft of Aboriginal land, all Australians have benefited from the removal of Aboriginal children. Why? Because almost all children who were removed to government institutions were then forced to work for the government or private citizens for little or no pay. In America, they called that process slavery. In Australia, we called it âapprenticeshipsâ. In December 2006, both the federal parliament released a report supported by the ALP and the Liberals acknowledging the stolen wages scandal.
The people who performed the removals were good people who did a bad thing.
Big f-cking deal. Good people do bad things all the time, but that doesnât mean theyâre excused from apologising.
It wonât affect white Australia, so why worry?
The removals practice AND the use of this issue by John Howard as a race wedge is a stain on white Australiaâs recent past. Just as Aboriginal people need an apology to move on, white Australia needs to apologise to move on.
Saying sorry wonât change the past.
Sadly, it wonât. But it will have a massive impact on the future. Thatâs the whole point. A real apology will mean an enormous amount to Aboriginal people. I still canât fathom what sort of a nation would deny them one. |
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holly
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Excellent idea, I like kevins idea of calling it Reconciliation Day.
When we become a republic we will have to give up the public holiday for the Queens birthday so it could be replaced with Reconciliation Day. |
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aflumpire
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NO FLIPPEN WAY!
first...why?? to appreciate the day we said sorry for screwing up people lives?? NO
I would rather spend a public holiday for something like the Melbourne Cup or Australia Week......not that they are more important but I think we need to look at holidays that promote the positives, not days where we made up foir bad things.
sorry, but it would not get my vote. I appreciate the Aboriginal and Islander culture, but I dont want to reflect on what we did to them...I want to look into positive territory. While Sorry Day was positive, it was for something that we did badly wrong.
I think its that you just want more time off school.
Sara, you said what everyone would do on the day...just to get the day off and i bet that no one will even look at the day for what it would mean....who celebrates the TRUE meaning of Christmas now?? not all of us....who celebrates the true meaning of Easter?? not all of us...who cekebrates the true meaning of the queens birthday?? not all of us...no one infact.
And Sara...YOU DONT EVEN CARE!!! thats the sad part! |
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â„ áčŠáččáčŠáčč â„
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ofcourse yes
so i can get an extra day off school, work, uni anything every year
so its a great idea :)
also so all the generations can remembe this day
i think your suggestion should be taken into consideration |
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Kevin
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Thats a good idea... Reconciliation Day? :) |
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