New Zealand? Should I go live there or not?

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spongebobs biggest fan

im thinking about going to live in mooloo

its lovely there why not take the mother with you?

smart E

NZ is very beautiful, the people are generally good people and the weather is moderate.
But a radical change in geography are not the answer to getting away from the social issues you mention.

Every country in the world has the issues you mentioned. You need to focus on the good things in your life and don't stress about things you can't change. Learn to rise above. Low wages are a matter If you are complaining about low wages in UK wait until you experience the cost of living in NZ
NZ has its own issues.

monkeynuts

My sister moved there from the UK a year ago and never looked back - it is a beautiful country. You're absolutely right - the UK is overcrowded and going to the dogs!! The one thing you need to make sure of though is that you'll be able to find a job and are skilled / educated enough to compete in the (fairly limited) job market, as I've heard it said many times that they give preference to native New Zealanders.

My sister is very close to me and my mum as well, but you can make cheap phone calls to England, and at the end of the day, your happiness is no doubt more important to your mum than having you live round the corner. It's a difficult adjustment, but it does get easier. She has a husband, it's not as if she's alone. And they can come and visit. I say go for it if you can!

PS the ages are almost the same, my sis is 29 and my mum's nearly 60, recently divorced from my dad. You will miss each other, as they do, but my sister is so happy in NZ she never looked back, and my mum is just happy that my sister is having such a good life. Skype is excellent - you can make free video calls and all you need is a webcam - you will be able to speak to your mum whenever you want

Kiwi

Unfortunately what's happening to New Zealand is that we are being influenced by UK left liberals! Political madness gone wild adopted from the UK thanks to our immigration laws!

It wont be long before New Zealand ends up like the UK, Don't believe me.....Go check out your local womens refuge, your local secular community service, your local school BOT and you'll see what I mean. We're even adopting terms within our Ministry of Education from the UK

And then what? once New Zealand becomes like the UK will you leave and then stuff up somewhere else?

I say stay in the UK!

Tony P

go for it. If you don't like it, go back. But check Kiwi's post above - very accurate assessment if you ask me. I livbed in Wimbledon for 2 years and yearn to go back sometime to visit. (this might be "grass is greener" scenario). check out www.purenewzealand.com - awesome website to entice your stepfather. My very good friend from Glasgow immigrated here 15 years ago. Her parents (good strong Glaswegian folk) immigrated 2 years later - both aged in their mid-seventies. It has probabaly added 5 years to their lives each - they are still going strong. My friend is an only child too. She is heading back to Glasgow next week for a holiday, but will never return to live. Use technolgoy to keep in touch - your stepdad might change his mind.

Scouse

You are just a little younger than my children and my advice is go. I f you wait until your mothers health breaks and see pops her clogs you will never go. It will break my heart if my children go. Make sure your motives and desires are there, because once you commit yourself and are away for a few years you will find it almost impossible to settle in UK again particularly once you have children.

misscacazzy

my son emigrated there recently,and i same age as ya mum.i not saying it don't hurt cos it do.but i love my son as ya mum love you. she maybe upset but hopefully she want ya go where ya happy.i going out there soon doing a walkabout,if ya got web cam maybe she talk to ya regulary.ya mum got her life ya got have yours.remember ya can come back if hate it.an ya can get real cheap tickets these days
try not get to many guilt feelings,
good luck

sebcue

Dear one...the problems you have mentioned about UK will be the same in New Zealand..NHS, poor wages, immigration all the same and even worse in New Zealand....New Zealand has a very poor health service and wages are poor....I think you can live in New Zealand for a short period of time and then decide....I lived there and then after having so many bad experiences I left for ever....but it will be different for everyone...this is just my opinion:
NZ has a kind of social complexity that you do not encounter in any other country.
There is a strong bullying culture at work environment especially towards foreigners.
It is a small isolated country. So what you think the major source of income is. Of course it is agriculture and tourism.The problem is because salaries are low most educated people leave for better income overseas. This creates a big problem.. As I said it is a small country.So what do you think people might feel when most young generation emigrate. Well they feel they are invaded by foreigner migrants especially Asians, Indians and others. For many years white people dominated the country and Maories were lower class citizens. When the white young generation is emigrating the country, fear of losing the power and fear of losing the working class (age 16-45) can cause a hostile environment towards new comersâ€¦.If you spend some time with them you will see how much they adore and admire themselves and their younger ones compared to other nationalities no matter where they are fromâ€¦..This is a dominant cultureâ€¦even if a kiwi commits a crime if the victim is not a main stream New Zealander the chances that lawyers and justice protect their own people is quiet high. Because they want to keep their people and stop them from leaving. This culture exists in all of them .Almost all of themâ€¦politicians, doctors, lawyers, taxi drivers, farmersâ€¦..almost all of them maybe because they want to teach them to value their country and stayâ€¦.however because tourism is their biggest source of income over many many years of dealing with migrants and foreigners they know they need migrants for their moneyâ€¦.I have never seen any other nationality in the world being able to rip off so skilfully as kiwis. They make a slave out of you. They make you work for free. Most skilled migrants are young, motivated, and energetic and have some saving. They come to NZ to make a better life. They spend some of their best years of life, the first five years after leaving their country to work hard to achieve nothing instead. I have seen many families break up; I have seen many of them get depressed. A lot of them leave NZ after a few years of putting up with abuse, some leave for Australia; some go back to their home country. Some of the migrants who have some kind of support network and can stand the abuse or work as self-employed may stay and instead the way they cope with this culture is they turn to be like their kiwi abusive mates. I have seen some of them start cheating, stealing and exploiting others to be able to mentally integrate into the society around them and of course some of them do none of these and stay the way they were but in a less motivated, depressed slavery mood. Ironically when foreigners get ripped off by kiwis they get blamed for not being careful. I have seen young rich Japanese students who get bashed and their money get stolen but instead they will get criticized of being careless. Kiwi students and young generation have this mentality that foreigners are rich, are pain free and they have their money because their mummy and daddy gives them their money and they do not work hard for it so they deserve their money to be taken away from them because this is the kiwi land and if these foreigners want to stay here they should help us with our economy. We are the best people in this world, our country is the most beautiful country in the world, our government is the least corrupted government of the world (of course that is the other way round), our graduates are the brightest in the world, our poo and wee is from gold and because of all these all non-kiwis should adore us and pay us lots and lots of money because we deserve it. New Zealanders are very jealous towards Australians. You just need to tell them how better Australia is compared to NZ. Then you get a sheep thrown to your head and they fart angrily into your face. I have seen some of these kiwis when they come to Australia they brag about their country to other nationalities to encourage them to visit their country and this way to help their highly dependent economy. Some of them say funny lies, For example they say they have lived in many countries all around the world and nowhere else is like New Zealand , The best wheater, the best health system, the best education, the best and most friendly people, no corruption, no crime, affordable and great lifestyle, etc, etc. The funny thing is some of them claim they were Aussies and now live in NZ because Australia had lots of crime, Australians were racist, Australia was this and that and NZ is the best place on earth and even the whole entire universe to live! If you do not know them well you poor naÃ¯ve person will believe all these and if you know them well somehow you just feel sorry.
However about 35% of the population rely on social benefits (a lot of elderly left alone by their children, a lot on sickness benefits and lots skill less Maories), 70% of the medical school graduates leave the country after 2 years of finishing their studies and only one third of foreign doctors remain in this country to work due to poor working conditions. You can imagine how dangerous it can be to become sick in this country. Studies show a great percentage of migrants lose their health after being and living in NZ due to poor health system comparable to third world countries even worse. Although they claim their country is safe but if you live there you feel how dangerous it is : high bullying rate at work, constant ripping off, constant pressure from local main stream New Zealanders to suck more blood from you and poor health system and poor service due to lack of skilled professionals.
Because most migrants leave after a few years the government tried to make it longer to get NZ citizenship to keep them in NZ longer. They just try to make everything longer, stretching the time they can suck up more blood. They make it more difficult for everyone to get entry to the country just to make them more eager and make their own value higher. It is just like a rouge trade person who makes you wait and run after him before he comes to your house and does all the repairing and asks you a lot of money. It is just a way of torture to take whatever they can from anyone who goes to their country because this is the only way they can have income. Otherwise except exporting agricultural products there is nothing else to be able to produce significant profit. The number one source of money over the last few decades were international students, when the number of students and skilled migrants drops they do every effort to attract them into the country and then just drag them from here to there to take their money out of their pocket and how cunning and skilled they are in this industry God knows. For example, they stupefy these students and ask them to take papers which are more expensive .You just will be amazed by their ability. Nearly almost everyone knows some tricks when it comes to meeting other nationalities. They are superficially friendly to get your trust and make a fool out of you. Because the nature is green, beautiful and peaceful a high percentage of new comers get fooled... The best preys are some naÃ¯ve idiot foreigners from third world countries. They know how to bully people around the globe if they can to be able to shake them till all the money falls out of their pockets.
If you live in small city after a while you realise how much they are dependent on the money foreigners bring in .You just feel you are constantly have to feed them and let them suck and that will never end. If you are skilled you have to work for long hours with low pay, what they claim is our pay is low but we offer a great lifestyle. They have very particular ways of satisfying you instead of low pay, for example they give you the power to control others, greasingly admire you, superficially make friend with you, respect you and the list goes on and onâ€¦.Then when it comes to daily life activities you gradually realise your dangerous position. If you have a computer problem for example: first of all there are not much good professionals to know what they are doing secondly they ask you a fortune for just doing nothing. I remember I had to leave my computer in a shop for some technical problems, he just did nothing, absolutely nothing and then asked me to come and pick up the computer, when I got home, I just felt hopeless. Where could I go to complain and how can I prove it. I have already paid and there was no way to claim it back. I decided to move out and sell some of my furniture. The guy from a tender centre came and picked up all my belongings and told me he would sell it. I waited weeks after weeks and had to pay a lot for mobile bill to ring him. But he never sent me back any money. I wrote a complaint to the local court but again if I wanted to do anything I had to pay twice to lawyers and the court itself to solve the problem. As they had no customer to get money fromâ€¦.It was ridiculous. If you sit among them you just feel sick. They just admire themselves and fart on you and then you feel your head is spinning and you have to leave.

Tahini Raving Weirdo

We've moved here from the UK also, not too long ago, for much the same reasons. While it is true that NZ also has its problems with all the things you've mentioned, the intensity of that is far less obtrusive than it used to be in the UK.
Yes, we do get burglars here, quite a few, in fact - but they aren't as dangerous as the fellows who do this in the UK.
It's still only planet earth here, but on a far more good natured level than most other places I know.
It is perfectly feasible to bring in elderly parents once you've lived here for three years. During that time, you could certainly get your mother and stepfather to visit NZ repeatedly, and if it goes the way it normally goes with these visits, I'm pretty sure your stepfather's opinion will eventually sway in favour of moving here.
We are certainly not evangelizing for people to move here, but all our visitors who've ever visited us from Britain, Canada, Germany, Austria, France, the UK, and US, have by now filed their EOIs and want to move here.
I guess it just does this to people.
Good luck with your decision - keep in mind that it's also your life, and while it is nice to be so considerate toward your family, you'll be here longer than they might. And where will that be then? UK or NZ...? The immigration service awards points till you're 43.

waltzsingmatilda

You don't need an answer to your question.
You have only 1 (one) mother.

fearn

You lucky thing - go for it. I wish we had had the opportunity to do the same. Remember you are only a air ticket away from your mum. I'm sure she would love you to live your dream. I know I would feel an enormous wrench if either of my kids decided to emigrate but at the end of the day you have to learn to let go and let them get on with their lives.

nj h

Go. It is a beautiful country. Take your mother with you, and just keep nagging your step-father.

Lucky Man.

Plenty members of my lot have emigrated to oz and they are all loving it and living it large.

zeon2b

yes!! yes!! yes!! go!! go!! go!!
I would if i only had the money to get out there. i have lived in the UK for 11 years now i i have only seen it get worse, too much political correctness. This is the ultimate nanny state.

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