What's your thought on Quebec government new value pledge for it's new immigrants?

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Mike W

If I was the big boss in Quebec I would make a law that would be much stiffer than a pledge for immigrants.
1- Ban all foreign students from University and grants in Q.
2- Ban all religious dress codes.
3- Deport all immigrants who are caught for criminal
acitivities in their first 10 years in Canada.
4- No welfare or medical card until you have paid taxes for
5 years.
5- No out of country pension cheques.
6- No out of country unemployment insurance.
These are just a few to start and in regards to language issues I have no problem with speaking french in Quebec and for immigrants learning it. Language and seperation are not to be mixed they are two different things. I am against seperation but respect the fact that Quebec is a french speaking province. But I don't want to see schools become ethnic like what was demanded of Ontario a couple of years ago when certain groups wanted their own schools and that in their homeland language.

snowpatrol321

It makes me laugh how they want to show how 'fair' they are with everyone EXCEPT when it comes to language.

Men and women are equal; religious freedom here; we are so democratic....but when we vote NO *TWICE* in referendums, well, that's not good enough.

Also makes me laugh that La Pauline Nationale complains about Charest wanting to call an election that will cost $83M, but if the PQ were in power and wanted to call another referendum....well...that's just another kettle of fish. Sorry for the ramble, it just branched out, lol.

Edited to add: "La Pauline Nationale" was coined by a caleche driver we had in Quebec City last year. We rode past a very pricey condo building, where he waved his hand in a derogatory way, and said "et c'est ici oĆ¹ vit La Pauline Nationale, des condos Ć plus d'un demi-million...hmph".

SteveN

If I were an immigrant coming to Canada, I would expect to live by the rules here in the new country. If that meant acknowledging that my wife is an equal instead of my "property", then I would either do so or just not come to Canada.

Likewise, if I am moving to Quebec and I know that it is a province that has French as it's primary language, I would expect to speak French while here. (When in Rome, do like the Romans...)

Same as the laws regarding religious freedoms. You should be able to practice and celebrate any religion you see fit here in Canada. But if that means carrying religious daggers to school, sacrificing small animals to drink their blood, or giving LSD to young boys for a spiritual voyage into manhood, then it crosses the line from religious freedoms to endangering the public.

And finally, I do dislike the way the OLF and Quebec makes it illegal to use other languages rather than trying to promote their own language. But if I was an immigrant, I would simply demonstrate my displeasure with the language laws by immigrating to other provinces. If immigration was averaging 15% in other provinces and trickled to 1-2% here in Quebec, I think you would eventually see some leniency on those language policies. But I digress...

MinLo

sigh... Don't get me started on the whole french situation right now! I absolutely love the french language but absolutely HATE feeling forced and having things shoved in my face. I'm so annoyed with those 'speak french' ads on the radio, etc too. How about instead of spending 1.5 million dollars on advertising that you should speak french, spend it on a campaign to make french classes affordable and widespread in the community, or, ya know, something useful and tangible instead of a fluffy 'theoretical' type campaign that just ends up sounding condescending.

Anyways, that's my rant! haha

curious_lalalala

I am a Quebecer and completely agree with the pledge. Why should it be otherwise? If you're an immigrant choosing to come live in Quebec, then you should abide by the rules, laws and values of the province (or the country, for that matter). Ghettoization and parallel societies have become huge problems (especially in Europe), INTEGRATION is key in immigration.

And to whoever said that they can't find any affordable French courses in Quebec, then please look again because the Govt. of Quebec offers FREE French classes to newcomers, yes, FREE! And yet, some immigrants (esp. in the Montreal area) choose not to learn it, that is not to even care about it, which is downright insulting and a lack of respect for those who WELCOME you and offer you better opportunities in life.

Quebec's language policy is anything but racist, it's about time people UNDERSTAND that the OFFICIAL language of this province is French, period. Just like Italy's official language is Italian and just like Japan's official language is Japanese, it's as simple as that. And in a context where Quebec, with a 7-million population, is surrounded by English-speaking territory of more than 350 million people, it's just about normal and fair that we have a policy that protects our language, a language we have been speaking for 400 years, that is still spoken by 80% of the population. It doesn't get any more legitimate than that!

Besides, most people have NO clue of what Bill 101 actually is and nowadays most of it is not even applied anymore. So complaining that it is a racist/xenophobic/immoral law is such an old argument, puts you to sleep.

Dangermanmi6

As an immigrant (white, male) I find it offensive at the least and smacks of racism at the worst. What can you expect of a government that actively promotes bigotry and racism with their language policy.

Don't get me wrong the average Quebec person is great it is the government that the nationalists want that I have a problem with.

freeside49

sure,whats wrong with it. all statements are true Any canadian could take the same pledge without hesitation I would hope

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