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About Kosovo?

I don't want to offend someone by asking the question, but I'm interested what is your oppinion about Kosovo. Should Serbia give this part of its terithory and, please where do you come from? Can you a bit explain your answer?

    



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aeiou_i
Hello. I am from Serbia. I will try to explain you our point of view. If you have any questions, you can contact me.

Kosovo Independent?

It is not about Serbia giving its sovereign territory or not. It is about Serbia being taken its sovereign territory. Furthermore, it is about USA conquering territory for the control of the region; eliminating Serbia as local threat and destroying one of the last political allies of Russia in Europe. Giving Kosovo independence would create ground for some potential 300,000 recruits for the US military, and would further “neutralize” the bad political weather against the Muslims; because of the petroleum thirst and crushing of potential threats in Middle East, and because of their “unsuccessful” adventure in Bosnia.

The current status of Kosovo is conquered territory under Resolution 1244. Kosovo Albanians want full independence, but they have not fulfilled the Resolution 1244. Instead, terror, destruction and death reign in this mafia-criminal country, blessed by EU and NATO, and bloodthirsty for independence. Serbs are offering extended autonomy for interim period of international supervision. The Security Council, with Russia and China, will have the final word. Americans are in "trick or treat" mode with the Russians, and are applying their methods toward Security Council members. That is the active game at this moment. Independence may come even without Serbia’s signature…

The irony is that if the Resolution 1244 had been passed through, these last seven years, bringing regional stabilization with minimum required standards, and the handful of Serbs and their monasteries had been left in peace; kept as “malo vode na dlanu,” Kosovo would have had today arguments for independence. Instead, Resolution 1244 has been treated as toilet paper by those who want to change it – those who perceive international agreements as ground for political manipulation rather than reaching progressive terrain for settling conflicts in this sensitive region in Europe. This is a clear demonstration of what the future Albanian Kosovo country in Modern Europe, would look like. The bloodthirsty primitives did not pass a simple test of humanity. Now their mentors want to destroy that test. European Union finds the simplest solution in sacrificing Serbia for the sake of throwing into oblivion their own bloody crimes done here on our soil, against the Serbs throughout the entire Yugoslav Civil War. With Russia recovered, it is not that easy as it seemed few years ago.

Negotiations had taken place. The mediator was Martti Ahtisaari from Finland. This political pawn was pushing Kosovo's independence and the negotiations were a mockery. The Serbs were trying to be constructive on diverse levels of solving the issue, specially under the circumstance of a trigger easy sword upon their heads, while the Albanians had clear orders from USA not to involve into any deal, for the negotiations to fail. Russians are suggesting new negotiations, while almost everybody else wants things to end now... The last of Martti Ahtisaari was his plan for interim period of international supervision with Kosovo getting army, flag, anthem and constitution before achieving full statehood. (If not today then why not tomorrow - how creative.)

Kosovo is Serbia’s sovereign territory. Why should Serbia give away its territory? Why would any country in the world want to give its territory? How would USA react if New Mexico was to proclaim independence on the basis that is has Mexicans living there (Lets suppose it would have 51% one day…)? Should the Basque, or the two million of Hungarians in Romania, have the right for independence? Kosovo is a political playground of the mighty, where warmongering international political forces collide against the satanized Serbs, armed with the ultimate weapon: Media Manipulation. It is about the demonstration of NWO historical momentum (petroleum sucking Russophobic machine) and the dark international silent blessing of its poltroons which coexist with this machine under political threat, corruption and deceiving. Legalization of such political brutality which sees itself above any international norm or treaty, is opening the Pandora’s box for future international ways of dealing in such situations where human lives are named collateral instead of being the primary goal. If we desire that for others, it will knock one day on our own door as well…

The arguments which are commonly presented in favor of Kosovo’s independence are:

a) "Serbs must be punished for what Milosevic had done.”
b) “90% of Kosovo population is Albanian.”
c) "Now that we came in and conquered, why not legalize our methods? (NATO)"
d) "We intervened in Kosovo to stop the genocide and ethnic cleansing."

These arguments are the mirror of the USA foreign policy and its political poltroons.

a)

In order to understand what Milosevic had done, we must go back into interpreting relevant factual history in Kosovo concerning the circumstances under which the genocide accusation has been made.

Going back to when tribes were coming from many directions and throwing rocks at each other, stuffing each other’s sheep or to flag-chest-beating history, is senseless and ridiculous, if we want to understand the current political picture without the everlasting historical claims and twisted propagandist beliefs. Just figuring if the Albanians descend from the Ilirs or came aroun the 16th century from Asia, is a story by itself.

After WW2, under Tito who suppressed the Serbs, Kosovo became autonomous province of Serbia which was republic. The final destiny of Kosovo set by Tito, was to be independence, but he died in 1980. In 1974., Kosovo had been given higher autonomic rights, which caused Serbia certain suffocation in the national assembly. Milosevic came to political power revoking this autonomy to its prior stage, in 1989.

The Kosovo independence movement was growing in popularity. Their strategy was low intensity terror, boycott of public institutions and investment into USA political lobbies, money created from drug and prostitution trafficking money this tribal Albanian society is worldwide known for. Due to the growing popularity of the independence movement, the police was exercising oppressive control in the region and there were escalating tensions.

With the amen and logistical support of USA, the Albanian terrorist KLA engaged into open war with the police (1998.). The Army intervened and when it took control, Milosevic and American diplomat Holbrooke agreed for the army to return to bases and for International Observers (OSCE) to step in. Corrupted OSCE prepared ground for NATO bombing (Famous Racak incident, 1999. and the following Rambouillet which was similar to the ultimatum upon Serbia back in 1914...)

The NATO bombing (1999.) which followed immediately according to the orchestration, created a human catastrophe and an escalation of atrocities in Kosovo. Under this escalation many war crimes were committed; by both NATO, KLA and Yugoslav military forces. Milosevic spread terror not only in Kosovo region but in all Serbia, until he was finally overthrown in 2000. Today, our democratic government is still dealing with the remains of Milosevic terror and his ill legacy.

NATO military attack; bombing was done without Security Council approval. Kosovo has been stuffed with 20 tons of Depleted Uranium. Cancer is flourishing, not only in Kosovo. Cleaning the terrain of Depleted Uranium is a money issue USA is not prepared to pay for.

The concept of punishing by detaching sovereign territory away from today’s progressive, democratic government and its nation for having had an oppressive government and for something the international community (UN, NATO, EU) itself were more than involved into; having bloody hands at least as much as the people they threw into killing each other, is absurd.

Those international factors who pushed Yugoslavia into a civil war escalation bringing 150,000 deaths; Germany in the first place, followed by USA, are responsible for what they have created. What they want now is to cleanse their own bloody mess by punishing their victim whom they defeated. It is them who are the most guilty for the escalation of war which pushed ordinary people into killing each other. It is them who pushed one side against the other, always condemning the Serbs and encouraging the other side against them, while silencing and deceiving other nations... It were the international politicians and journalists with their agencies who brought the most destruction into my country... And they still are... Too bad for them the Russians woke just on time…

"What Serbs did to Muslims is the same thing Nazis did to Jews..." - Ruder & Finn, Jewish Propaganda Agency in USA (This is how USA public opinion was being prepared for the USA involvement in Yugoslavia.)

The Media Manipulation which satanized the entire Serb nation, deserves a special chapter in world history. Throughout the whole Yugoslav civil war, Serbs have been seen as the only guilty nation. The Hague Court (political court, a one in which USA can not be judged for its involvement in ex Yugoslavia...) has chased all the possible Serbs, while all the relevant Others were left in peace or set free (Tudjman, Izetbegovic, Oric...). Milosevic had not been given proper medical attention in Hague, because of what he died..., etc. Today, we can still hear that Slovenia was attacked by the Yugoslav Army, that only Serbs committed war crimes in Bosnia, etc. Take notice of how CNN, headed by Christine Amanpour, was functioning in Sarajevo..., how the Pulitzer award for photography was given...

b)

Roughly around mid XIX, it was 50%-50%. Between that and WW2, the situation was tilting. Due to many Serbs having fled during WW2 from Albanian terror and not being allowed by Tito to settle back, the open border for Albanian refugees from Albania, the low intensity terror, the demographic explosion of Albanians, the Serbs turned into a 10% demographic minority, staying legal majority. This simply is not a decisive factor for giving higher rights to minorities in any country in the world, as much as it practically creates irreversible political tension, specially not giving rights for separation and independence.

c)

"This (Kosovo) is a special case for NWO."
"There must be a deadline to solve the Gordian Knot we created (USA)."
“If Kosovo does not obtain independence, there will be more bloodshed upon Serbs.”
“We bring peace by destruction.”
"You are either on our side or against us."

These are the political ways coming from the West - the way they (USA) breathe when they make their war plans to conquer the world; written in Mein Kampf oops Transformational Diplomacy, under which the Kosovo Albanians dance… These winds bring death, destruction and terror… These deliberate ways of dealing the issue are the recognizable ones which have blown ever since the first international involvement.

Unilateral recognition of Kosovo’s independence would lead to a new era in world politics. International ways of dealing sensitive issues would be one step further toward NWO principles. Political manipulation; threat, war and corruption would be popular models, and international agreements would be a mockery.

Shall we bless a formation of such a country (Kosovo), and under such circumstances, in our civilization? Where would that lead us in future international conflicts? What would be the standards of solving these in the future?

d)

Perhaps their strongest argument, though in fact very weak. Events must be separated into before and after the bombing. I have described the circumstances before the start of the bombing, and some links show how the media was manipulated and how everything was pushed toward the intervention which was done without the approval of Security Council.

Links

Some links do not refer directly, but do give the picture of who is who in the whole story throughout the Yugoslav Civil War.

Racak:
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-01/18/8197.html
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Racak/Tiker/RacakFile.html
http://www.mediamonitors.net/gowans1.html
Media Manipulation and Satanization of Serbs:
http://www.3ammagazine.com/politica/feb2001_kosovo.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/9289.shtml
http://compuserb.com/wtimesad/wtadtext.htm
http://www.agitprop.org.au/stopnato/media.htm
http://www.iacenter.org/bosnia/lituchy.htm
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/9289.shtml
Documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3886952536016155942&q=yugoslavia&pl=true
Resolution 1244 of Security Council:
http://www.unmikonline.org/press/reports/N9917289.pdf
Albanian Terrorism in Kosovo:
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/kosovo/terrorism/since1990.html
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AlbanianTerrorism/KLA.html
http://www.kosovo.net/default4.html
Actual Stuff:
http://www.sangam.org/2007/03/Kosovo.php?uid=2306

I encourage everyone to search for opposing links and weigh using own judgment.


Bojana
I am from Serbia!
You see, KOSOVO (and Metohija) is a part of Serbia.
Serbia isn't going to give that part.
That is Serbian land over there, so...NO!
That's my opinion (and Serbian opinion too)
Thanks for asking:o)


d_laus
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i don't know which is worse

kosovo in serbia: albanians will multiply again and inhabit even more teritories in serbia and eventualy serbia will be an albanian state (source: logic)

independent kosovo: the remeaning non-albanian population (about 100 thousand serbs, romas, egyptians, jews etc) will be killed as soon as it happens (source: check recent news about the bombing near visoki decani monestary- they are doing it even now while the negotiations are taking place)


♪♪ vivet ♪♪
you already know the answer on your question
you write:"Should Serbia give this part of ITS territory ..."


LiL'_ShaWty_MoBos
first Adam B, shut up and don't talk about something that u don't know ! How can u say such stupid things! Kosovo Is and always will be a big part of Serbia! u cannot just take away someones territory and whole history, family. It is stupid. Just look how many history marks are there in Kosovo, Serbian history. That is Serbian land! good question. I am from Serbia,and am PROUD of it! People don't even know how much Serbia is beautiful, everyone just talks about wars...


{~Âż~} zZ
Yeah, they should let it go. Kosovo does NOT belong to Serbia.

There are Serbs claim that Kosovo is the "cradle" of the Serbian Orthodox Church and Midieval History, but this is due to brainwashing by some fanatics.

The F - I - R - S - T Autocephalous Archbishopric of Serbia was centered at the Žiča Monastary (built between 1208 and 1220), where Žiča (near Kraljevo, central Serbia) became the FIRST seat of the Serbian Archbishops, in 1219. Not only was this the center of Serbian Orthodoxy, but it was the foundation of their MIDIEVAL HISTORY, where almost all midieval Serbian rulers were crowned.

The seat of the Serbian Archbishops was MOVED to newly conquered territory of Peć / Peja (northern Kosovo), in 1233. To secure their colonization of Kosovo, they kept Peć the seat of the Serbian Archbishops until the Ottomans forced heavy taxes on those who would not convert to Islam. The seat of the archbishops was moved, yet again, from Peć to Karlovci, in southern Hungary (Vojvodina), in 1879, a year after the Great Powers recognized Serbia as an independent state.

Vojvodina was later incorperated into the Kingdom of Serbia, in 1918, after a short-lived Hungarian independance. Vojvodina is another colonized territory that has lost the status of autonomy, just like Kosovo.

COLONIZATION = STOLEN TERRITORY
It is not fair how they can call colonized provinces "integral parts of Serbia" and not give its people recognition in national affairs.

THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE !!!


CaptainAlbania
I answered an identical question to another open answer here it is:



Should pedophiles be allowed to roam freely around children?

Should drunk drivers be allowed driving privileges?

Should ex-bank robbers be employed in banks?

Should recovering alcoholics, be allowed just one sip?

If you answered "YES" to any of these, Than your kind is the kind of people that go bungee jumping with out measuring the cord. You also probably think Kosovo should remain part of Serbia againts the wishes of it's citizens bringing on more wars, killings and destruction.

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF THINGS YOUR PEOPLE ARE ROGUES AND HAVE LITTLE INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT.

LONG LIVE A FREE KOSOVA

I was talking to a Serbia individual by the name of Milan, who undoubtedly believes Kosovo should remain part of Serbia.

If you indeed are neutral (not belonging to neither group) and you should get my point.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


mika
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i live in kosova,i.m an Albanian,and my answer to your question is that you can not lose something you don,t own.kosova was occupied in 1913 by serbia and for 90 years they try ed everything to displace Albanians from there,as talking their property,putting them on prisons,killing them,and in 1998/1999 they even made genocide on us(i am talking as a witness now). after all we,ve been through i think its impossible to agree with serbians that kosova is serbian.kosova belong to kosovars.


Adam B
I think that legitimate control over a territory depends on the good rule of the ruler. Serbia surrendered any claims to rightful rule over Kosovo when they started to play games with genocide there. Serbia has no rightful claim over Kosovo because of the atrocities that they committed there. I think that if the Kosovars want to be free of Serbian control, then the world has a responsibility to help them, especially since we've already stepped in.



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