Do you think supporting Tibet and Kosovo is ok?But you still keep denying Kurds' rights? DOUBLE STANDARD ?

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Ipek K

Kate... Kurdish origin Turkish people have the same legal rights as the rest of the nation since they are Turkish citizens. What are you talking about??

If you want a challenging game, then I am challenging you to prove that they don't have the exact same rights.

Undetermined Quantity

When South Carolina wanted it's independence, the US didn't let it go. There was a big war in the US over this.

Bozkurt

Solid arguments hey how about 1/3 of the Turkish Parliament or there abouts is Kurdish ? We have had Kurdish Prime Ministers and Presidents, e.g. Turgut Ozal. I ask you what do you know of any rights that have been denied to the Kurds ? Other than the propaganda you have been fed that is.

How much more Rights can a person want when they can hold the highest office in the land and be voted in by a majority of Turks ??

â™¥ â˜¼ â™« Ibrahim â™« â˜¼ â™¥

You don't even know what you're talking about...

Truth R

Should I support CIA sponsored Tibetan exiles' Olympics boycott movement ?

I checked into the organizer of the Olympic boycott. He is a Tibetan exile. His name is Lhasang Tsering . He is now in Greece to stop Olympic Torch Relay. After I read his essay, which was posted on the Combat Law website, I found he admitted he is a CIA agent, and had received CIA boycott training. I quote:

"The author was president of
Tibetan Youth Congress and one of the founder directors of
the Amnye Machen Institute. He was also a member of the
CIA-trained Tibetan Resistance Force operated from Mustang, Nepal "
http://www.combatlaw.org/information.php?article_id=1021&issue_id=36

So, should we support CIAâ€™s war with China and war with the Olympic games ?

berk

Yes...1)how much do you really know about the Kurdish issue of Turkey ?...
2) are your resources reliable ?

Many people in europe believe that kurdish citizens of Turkey do not have rights to vote.They also believe that Turkish armenians are very badly treated.When you tell them in return it's not really what they think and Turkish democracy is at least as good as the french or the italian one they begin to say...you are a very rich boy in your country so they don't touch you since they don't touch you, you don't know anything...
These are people who believe that Turkey's capital is Ä°stanbul and pre-marriage sex results in dead penalty.
And I'm not a rich boy...

Edit...
There are some historical facts...
France would not give it's independance to Corsica nor would Italy to Sardunia nor would Spain to Catalunia...
In the other hand Kosovo and Tibet..they are both autonomous regions...
There has never been an autonomous Kurdistan region on the lands of Republic of Turkey.If you think this way 4 million Turkish people living in Germany may would like to ask for the independence of their regions.So no one is stealing someone else's lands...
Moreover these are politics.Politics are like a chess game.Unless Turkey becomes a weak country there's no way a Kurdish state will be founded on it's lands...

DejaVu- RETURNS

Kurds and Turks and everybody else have same rights in Turkey...

Stop the horse chit..

Totally Blunt

Look who is talking about double standards. I would give examples of double standards from your own country, ONLY if I knew who you are and where you are from.

Lex Talionis

Come on Alana don't play these games you are supposed to be Ipek's friend how is the Turkish Armenian Friendship group going any ways :) I see Beemer has brought out his real feelings with one of his answers at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AujLoEep51Zb9sfGbZUq_prsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080328092349AAT11Z3

now you with this fake account really how dumb are you.

Alana you have read this diplomat's letter but I thought I would just post it again to refresh your memory. Cetin will be here soon with the rest of the information you need :)

Mr. George Karagiannakis's letter (2/6/94), making all sorts of incredible allegations against Turkey in regard to its domestic and foreign policies, should not be allowed to go unanswered.

It is not possible in the space of a few lines to answer all of his allegations. However, in fairness to the truth, the following points must be made:

The 'facts beyond credible dispute' to which he alludes are in fact based largely on fictions to justify unrealistic ambitions or failures in the past to achieve totally unrealistic goals.

Whilst it is true and sad that many Armenians lost their lives in their own bid for territory, what is not recognized is that the Armenians themselves inflicted as much damage as others in the hostilities of that time, goaded on by some Western powers for their own selfish and geopolitical objectives.

The Turks had no deliberate policy of genocide at any stage, only the removal of Armenians from the front line with Russia, where they were collaborating with the Ottoman Empire's enemies and were thus a threat to its security.

The Kurdish issue is more complex. Two points are relevant:

The PKK, like IRA, is a terrorist organization, SUPPORTED MATERIALLY BY THE GREEKS AND ARMENIANS, with the stated objective of destabilizing Turkey. It has so far assassinated over 10,000 people in Turkey. It has no justifiable claim to represent the Kurdish people.

Most Kurds are integrated into Turkish society. About one-third of the Turkish Parliament is of Kurdish origin. This illustrates the absence of discrimination.

As for Cyprus, if any genocide or ethnic cleansing has taken place, this has always been carried out by the Greeks. The abortive coup of 1974, organized by EOKA and Greek colonels, aimed at elimination of the Turkish Cypriots from the Island. Turkey intervened to protect them and prevent Enosis. Since that date, the island has been peaceful and free of bloodshed.

Turkey has consistently supported a fair and reasonable settlement on Cyprus, but one that gives the Turkish Cypriots a secure future and equal political and social status with the Greek Cypriots.

The real problem between Greece and Turkey is Greece's reluctance to give up its Megali idea, that is, the recovery of the territories occupied by the Byzantine Empire, which finally fell to the Turks in 1453. All the many conflicts between Greece and Turkey over the past two centuries have been initiated by Greece. Your correspondent's reference to bloodied Turkish history is therefore clearly wrong, except in the fact that in the past three Greek-initiated conflicts, the Turks gave the Greeks a severe hiding, which partly accounts for the large fall in numbers of Greeks in present-day Turkey.

Regarding persecution. the Ottomans had one of the most tolerant policies towards non-Turks of any empire of its day. The three communities of Jews, Greeks and Armenians were virtually autonomous within the empire.

P. F. Peters

Former Australian Ambassador to Turkey
(The Australian, June 9th, 1994)

second-sun

I dot support Tibet OR Kosovo separation. They should just learn to integrate and follow laws of their state.

Trotsky vs Kerensky- ÐÐµÐºIÐ¾!

If this is a joke, this isn't funny at all but if you're serious, this is hilarious.

Thanks for helping us out here, if I were to troll in this section, as other trolls very much like to accuse me of, I certainly couldn't make you look as ridiculous as you do now. You look even more idiotic than you do with your main account, if, something of the sort is possible.

PIETRO

Turkey loves Kurds, but they hate trolls.

Trolls might be "genocied" someday, if they keep asking stupid questions.

Dr. Beemer

I was watching youtube I saw this video, I have no opinion on this video, what is it?

NEWROZ 2008
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h0LRZJjdn84&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TV-W0CDT-Q4&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=89LRgGqMk2w&feature=related

Can somebody describe these to me? No harsh words please...

Winnie

rights to what?

Ladybug Queen of Lazistan

damn it! I cant stand it when idiots like you talk just shi*.
Here is a challenge for you smart as*
Proof that the kurds have been treated other than the turks!
Our president was a kurd!what other proof do you idiots need more to undertand that some kurds just want power. and money.and they do not hesitae to use any possible oportunity to badmouth the turks.my brother in law is a kurd and is a lawer..how?because he has the same rights!!we turks never had any trouble with the kurds and never even them differently as any other citizen...just when their so called leader came and started to terrorize the people and provoked them.that is when all this started.we have waited for years that they might come to their senses but no!They asked for more...and then comes a snake like you and tells us about us being hyocrical and talk about double standart...
OK...I am waiting for your answer...just show me one proof that the kurds have lesser rights than the turks and I swear I will give up my turkish citizenship.We turks are just too generous that is why everyone tries to use us and ruin us...but believe me...this is not gonna happen...our ancestors did it (the ottomans and AtatÃ¼rk and our folks)and we will do it again if it comes to that point.

tom

In an ideal world all individuals would be in the country that they feel more comfortable in, however there are lots of politics going on. Kosovo only got their independence because of attempted mass murder and ethnic cleansing by the serbs, tibet is being treated harshly and always has done in genocide that has been committed since the 1940s in Tibet.
The kurds have also had genocide committed against them, but then it is less worse from a turkish point of view and the iraqi regime has gone and hopefully in the future kurds will have the autonomous area in iraq which they control.

But there are always double standards, everyone is looking out for their own things and don't wnat others to have influence over this. So Spain will not support kosovan independence because of the basque country and catalunya, yet they hold two cities, ceuta and mililla in northern africa which should not be a part of spain, while demanding gibralter back from the british.
That is politics and it is unfortunate that it affects people in the way that it does.

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