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Black Persian Pasha

How can we deal with growing anti-Turkism in Europe?

Is it just because of the legacy of the Ottoman invasions and too many, nasty doner kebaps?
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I thought we were European brothers
: why do large number of English fans chant, "I'd rather be a Paki than a Turk."?

Why? Why? Why?!

    



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Selena
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The main problem is pure ignorance and the media. Turkey is a peaceful country and except for some news about Kurds, you don't hear much. Automatically, since this is the only news, it makes Turkey look like a bad country. So, Turkey needs to show the world what it really is about, more cultural events in major cities. Turkish cuisine doesn't end with kebabs, it is one of the finest in the world due to its rich heritage but how many people know that! There are also so many good Turkish movies but you never see them outside Turkey, they need to be subbed and shown on international TV stations or on the net. Look at what happened to Korea, 10 years ago no one would go there on a vacation, they were looked down on by many people. Then, with the movies it changed dramatically. Opinions changed about Koreans and millions of people go there on holidays now!


mandy
i recently went on holiday to turkey, i can honestly say they are lovely people.if they can accept us in their country i see no reason why we cant accept them in ours.as for the chants - its small minded idiots who say things like that who have probably never met a turk in their life.


val f1 nutter
I am married to a Turkish man. I also work for Turks. I have a lot of friends who are known to be a bit racist. after meeting my hubby and actually talking to him their attitudes have changed. My hubby is now a welcomed member of our community. I really don't think we have an anti-Turk problem in our town. Communication is the only way we can move forward. oh and by the way, i work in a kebab shop and our kebabs are lovely lol


HolyWars
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in fact; the anti-Turkism depends on the behaviours and the antipropaganda of the Kurdish ppl and the radical-muslim ppl.
Who is living in gettos in Europe? Who is selling drugs in the streets? Who is acting like they are in Saudi Arabia?
The answer is not Turks.....
Many of the Europens know that very well but they prefer to see Turkish ppl is the origin of all badness......


Tony Soprano
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come boy, come come..
come deal with it...

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daddy cool
n'aaber lan kertenkele? gene tarrak mi ariyon emmek için?

hey you pecker peeper....

still watching other men's stuff in the public bathrooms?

your mullahs do not give you a break eh?

you cannot enjoy your homosexuality in Teheran and looking for a gay partner in this section?

Well, you'd better make friends with armenians here.. they are mostly gay, like you.. you fit & deserve each other


Totally Blunt
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Are you happy, Persion something something boy? Did you get the responses you wished for. It's nice actually, seeing who is the racist in and around this section.


andy g
no mate it's because you are run by muslims and becoming a muslim state
why do you think Europe is becoming anti turkish
with all the violence that the radical muslims are breeding in this world of ours and i say ours not theirs


Mehmet K
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Generally, European met with the Turks, at 1960s when Turkish workers went to Europe. They were all uneducated (attention not poor educated, nearly totally uneducated). They all were unable to speak in their local language, this caused izolation.

I lived 1 year in Germany in late 1980s, i had very good german friends. Of course there was Turks living around me. One of the Turks asked me to help him, i accepted. he showed me a paper and his request was to fill it. Paper was belong to social security burou. One side written in german and the other side was in Turkish. Unfortunately neither my Turkish friend nor his childs unable to read and understand both of them. So i filled for them.

I observed, european visiting Turkey changing their idea about Turks totaly. This is the most effective way to deal with anti-Turkism.

And doner kebap is not nasty, much healtier and better than macs etc.


Trotsky vs Kerensky- НекIо!
Umm...That "I'd rather be a Paki" was chanted on a football match and British hooligans always do that no matter what country they're having a match with. So is that your biggest evidence? Chant on a match? lol flawless analysis skills, bravo! Jeez, I'm so darn impressed I think I'll commit suicide because Europeans hate me- somehow that passed my notice during my years in Europe but you have enlightened me.


O.CETIN BAYRAMOGLU
hey brainstorm !
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first read this news:
THE WASHINGTON TIMES – BRUCE FEIN
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070902/COMMENTARY02/109020014/1012
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my idea:
NO usa NO eu INDEPENDANT TÜRKİYE!


PAULA F
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I am English and I can honestly say I have never heard this chant or met anyone who has this attitude towards the people of Turkey. If this is true then I am ashamed of my own heritage and hope that the few who take this view are ignored. We are all brothers and sisters and everyone should be treated equally. Please don't think that all English people are 'anti-Turkish' as you put it as the majority of us aren't.


usourselvesandourcats
We need to propaganda against Turcophobia. Organize groups, campaigns, talk about our history and culture in a pleasant way, since it is always scandalized and usually hyped negatively.We need to advertise our pretty culture and people through better representations in the public arena. Then, we won't be scaring anyone, since they will know who we are, and anti-Turkism will not have roots to hold itself down.


alex s
You are more right than you realise on the first point I think. Bulgaria is a classic example of Turkish repeated invasions and rule for over 500 yrs. What they went through was horrific and it would probably still be the same if the Russians hadn't helped them - and continued to do so for the following 100 odd years. Seriously, check it out if your interested.


Qu'est ce que tu pense?
Wow, you really need to get a life. Why don't you go back to McDonalds and eat your nasty bigMac. ok?


ilke
I am not agreed with you. I don't think that there is such growing anti-Turkism. There are lots of different nationalities out there. Don't take anything personally.

I personally do not prefer to eat Donner kebab but I think Donner kebabs are not nasty at all. They are healthier than burgers. People are happy in the world eat kebabs.


Eve
Is it really so? Is there really a growing anti-Turkism? If yes, I would attribute it mostly to what is presently happening in Turkey. The news we get is that the country is slowly shifting to Islam in its fundamentalist form. This does not look good, especially with the terrorist attacks and violence coming from that end in the last years.
Also, there seems to be too much patriotism, in fact bordering to nationalism, among the Turkish communities. Why take yourself soooo seriously? European culture generally has an easier, more relaxed attitude to itself, often with a nice sense of humour.
Orhan Pamuk, a great Turkish writer, why is he controversial in Turkey?
Europe's attitude to Turkey might be changing - if it is really so, maybe the answer is to be sought in Turkey.

Oh, and I like doner kebabs, here in Bulgaria they are often made by Arabs.


brainstorm
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Admitting to the Armenian genocide would be a good start


frankturk50
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I haven't noticed this and four years ago emigrated to Turkey.At present there are 38,000 of us immigrants from Europe and the numbers are increasing daily so not everybody seems to see any problems.Racism is rife in Europe and especially in UK where a lot of people are upset with the tide of eastern Europeans who are flooding in and taking the jobs that the British were too lazy to do themselves.


Abd
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Ottoman Invasions???

No the Christians travelled thousands of miles to the middle east and invaded Palestine that was controlled by the Ottomon Turks.

however you are right about the nasty doner kebabs.lol

www.kickyourheadoff.info


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cpinatsi
Prove them wrong!


istanbul bogazi
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Well to begin with Europe can have better education, stop listening to the politicians, travel more, start being open minded. (Luckily for us not everybody is like this)

Like look at andy g for example isn't he sooo educated? lol


Loopy Loo
I don't think people are against all the Turkish. Just the ones that are becoming known as ''passport pinchers''


Merovingian
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A Turkeys for Christmas, not for life...!


Richard L
because Turkey is not ready for be part of the EU, Turkey is a country with a very low economic almost same like Ecuador or Bolivia or Zimbabwe. There are not good reason for be part of Europe, first is a Muslim country, second its economy is really bad, corruption and prostitution is the orden of the day, immigration law so poor.
How can be Turkey a Middle East country part of the EU?
When u get Istanbul u will get rounded for several Turkish man try to rip off your money, the taxi driver the same, the tourist price one is for Turkish other for foreigners.
If you go with u girlfriend a lot of Turkish man try to rape her hehehe because there are no human rights for the Turkish woman, the Turkish woman does not have rights they are not considered human beings.
That is why in the street u can see only full Turkish man and no woman.


crispy
send more kebabs and you get my vote lad





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