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rba01701 |
How many feel that the House had no business about rewriting Turkish history? Stupid move about the genocide.? |
Who thinks that the USA jeapordized their position in Turkey (Bush certainly does) by saying the Armenians died with the Genocide.
I am American and personally I have never met an honest Armenian and I live in Watertown MA home of most Armenians in the USA. They are usually drug dealers and their women are sleazy and all have this chip on their shoulders about this so called Genocide. Turks are genuinely nice people and the Ottoman Empire was good to everyone even giving the Jews religious freedom.
Personally I think the House had no reason to make this stupid decision (regardless how I feel) only because NOW Turkey, America's ONLY Muslim ally in the Middle East is now compromised. The Armenians offer the USA nothing but spicy good where the Turks offered us their airbases and ports. BIG mistake today! |
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Sera is back
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You are American? I don't think so.
You are not being fair here and that's what a Turk would do.
Turkey's high-priced lobbyists are all over Washington, spreading hateful messages, calling us liars for telling the truth about our own history.
Bob Livingston, who's already pocketed more than $13.000.000 to deny the Armenian Genocide.
Dick Gephardt, who just closed a 1,200,000 deal to block even the discussion of anything that harms Turkey's "image".
Both former top leaders of congress trading their influence, I would say their souls, to sell Turkey's lies. they are taking blood money to deny Genocide.
There are more, but fortunately we have good people here in USA who are not thinking like your kinds.
Go read history and don't insult a great nation and its people, read about history of your background too.
House had all the reason, and the bribers are stupit, you can't call the people who we vote names, and all those airbases are Armenian lands turkey is offering to USA, don't you forget that.
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/ |
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Tinara
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I completely aggree with "Sera is Back".. and one day all the people will know that the Armenians have been telling the truth! |
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Alana Awareness
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As for Turkey-USA relations, I don't think the US can regard Turkey as a local ally any more.
Words are so cheap in this
section. Any lie goes
around here.
All I can say was when the
hell was turkey a local ally
in the Middle East?
1. When they refused the
US to enter Iraq from their
boarders.
2. When the US paid them
to settle their differences
with Iraq Kurds.
3. When they put our US
Troops in danger with their
Pkk problems.
Slither back into your cage
and stick to subjects you
know more about like trapping
a mouse for dinner. |
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carmelo_sabato
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it should have been done long time ago! |
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cat_barook_lime
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"I have never met an honest Armenian"
And I never met a Nazi but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
"They are usually drug dealers and their women are sleazy"
Wow, way to generalize. Would you like me to shove all American's into the same box as you did to the Armenians?
"Turks are genuinely nice people and the Ottoman Empire was good to everyone even giving the Jews religious freedom."
Yeah it was the Islamic Empire, not Secular Turkey. Moot point, sir.
"America's ONLY Muslim ally in the Middle East"
And Kuwait isn't a Muslim Ally? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? I mean really what are we? Jewish? And Turkey isn't Middle Eastern it's European...if things go well with the EU.
"The Armenians offer the USA nothing but spicy good where the Turks offered us their airbases and ports."
I'm sorry I can't even comment on that.
Turkey has to deal with what it has done. It must embrace the past, good and bad. If they don't then they will suffer and pay the price.
I pray to God above that Turkey comes to terms with what it has done. For the sake it's self and the world. |
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chrisvoulg1
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About the genosides conducted by the Ottomans (against Armenians and Greeks in the early part of the previous century) you should read "The curse of the East", written by the US consul at Smyrna who was a first-hand witness of mosty of the events which he describesFor earler Ottoman attrocities "the Bulgarian Horrors" (late nineteen century) you should read the speaches of the British Premier Minister Gladstone (plus in the speaches you could see a very eloquent and precise contemporry image of what kind of "benefits" the subjects of the Ottoman Empire derevived from it...)As for the srgument what Turkey offers to US so that she must not be in discofotable position is at best luducrous!What next? Not to mention the Holocaust in case that Germans got angry?And a last question:As I recall Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ was bought and sold for 30 silver Roman coins.For just what amount of political/ gepolilical gains are preparing to diserard the Historical truth?Of course if you subscribe to the postmodernist "school" of History which hold as tennent that essentially there is no such thing as Historical truth there is reason to continue this conversation... |
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Leprechaun
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Although stereotyping a nation is not right, i'm with you on the whole idea of these kind of decisions are wrong.
I wonder with what ephitet these politicians make a decision that there was a genocide? This is very wrong and shows the real face of western world.
Historical facts are historical facts,they can't/shouldn't be used as political materials.
Also these decisions mean nothing really. What if today all the parliaments in Europe votes that all Americans lived in the last century were wh.res? Will that mean they were? Can you decide what happened in the past by voting? That actually makes my mind clear about their brains,that they don't have any.
Nevertheless, Turkey's reaction shouldn't be mainly against America. It should be against Armenian lobby whom are manipulating everyone to make the genocide they committed against Turks forgotten and to show Turks as bad guys, so they can benefit. They show their low quality.
History shows you everything you need to know. Americans doesn't have a real character because they were immigrants from all over Europe. And the first thing they did on the new world was a mass killing.Armenians could never become a real power,a strong country with high character,because they are after these kind of peanuts. But when look back to Turkish history,let the truths speak for themselves. |
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Totally Blunt
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You have seen the Greeks' response. They have a state founding myth and the pride of having freed themselves from an empire isn't enough. They HAVE to insult, too. Not to talk about the 15,000 Muslims they ethnically cleansed from Peloponnes. And who submitted their own Jewish citizens to the Germans during WW2? Not me!
As for Turkey-USA relations, I don't think the US can regard Turkey as a local ally any more. Any overt move that our government will make to help US endeavors will be met with public uproar. No elected government can stand that.
US will have to clean up the mess it created in the area itself. Like all bad decisions, this one will take its toll on the ordinary people. US soldiers will die and their families will be heartbroken. |
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not fair
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well my Greek friend said it all
thanks
chrisvou |
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çetin
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hi rba ,
mr bruce fein and micheal radu , they agree with you!
1) THE WASHINGTON TIMES
By BRUCE FEIN
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070902/COMMENTARY02/109020014/1012
2)FPRI-FOREIGN POLİCY RESEARCH INSTITUTE
The Dangers of the Armenian Genocide Resolution
By Michael Radu
http://www.fpri.org/enotes/200703.radu.armeniangenocide.html |
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Mehmet K
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Thank you very much... Agreed with all.. |
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sultan.murat
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Money buys, stupidity sells!!! |
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Katakiuchi Perlaytony
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I can not put it any better then it was stated some 92 years earlier and I quote;-
"But it is certain that in 1922 Sultan Mohammed Vl put it quite succinctly and pointedly, when he told the American writer E. Alexander Powell:
“If we sent one, your newspapers and periodicals would not publish an article written by a Turk, if they published it, your people would not read it, if they read it, they would not believe it. Even if we sent a qualified person to America, to convey to you in your language, the Turkish point of view, would he find an impartial audience?” [Gurun, File, p. 37]" |
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bugjjo
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I agree it was a stupid move by the US, Turkey is the only Ally we have. Why do we bring somehting up that is none of our business. It happened/didnt' happen a long time ago. Lets move on as brothers and sisters and focus on making positives.
However I dont' agree with your generlizations about Armenians.. |
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