Iran V.S. Turkey...?

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♥ ☼ ♫ Ibrahim ♫ ☼ ♥

Your question is just an opportunity you're giving to your friends to difame and criticize our country...

Europe seems to refuse us because we are Muslims, but apparently the haters think that Iran is better than us ?

What a stupid logic !

Sera is back

I dare to disagree with you Mercury jan:

Iran is still the most powerful country in the region.

We all know why USA attacked Afghanistan and then Iraq and won't dare to lay a hand on Iran, USA wants their oil!

Iran religion: (true Islam), I am not saying it is good or bad, but at least they are following their religion correctly.

http://www.sacredsites.com/middle_east/iran/shiaislam.htm

Iran's Military guide:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/

Oil in Iran:

http://www.iie.com/publications/papers/paper.cfm?ResearchID=649

Armenians in Iran:(this is extra)

http://www.arir.org/eng/armiranians.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/story/2005/04/050406_l-cy-armenians.shtml

Iran gets help from another country? naaaah

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Turkey's religion: They have not decided what they want, the country is torn a part for so much disagreements.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Europe/Turkey/

Turkey Military Guide:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/turkey.htm

Oil in Turkey?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0525/p06s01-woeu.html

Armenians in Turkey:(this is extra)

http://www.armenian.ch/asa/Docs/faae02.pdf

Turkey gets help from another country? Yes oh yes.
USA helps.

the conclusion?

Iran wins 7 -0

ՎԱՀԷ

Turkey improved a lot more than Iran in latest years, and that's absolutely due to secularism.
Look at the past, when Ottoman and Qajar empires in Turkey and Iran existed, both countries were strongly religious (sunni and shiya) and really backward.
In Turkey Ataturk changed things and made Turkey a secular nation and it is kept until today, but in Iran:
Reza shah Pahlavi also tried to separate religion form governing, and he did, in the best way, imagine when he was in power, in Iran people didn't mourn for Ashoora! Can you believe this?!
But things changed, his son Mohammad Reza shah destroyed things he destroyed his father's efforts, specially after puting Dr. Mossadegh away, religion started to gain popularity in Iran, because all other voices were silenced!
(Nationalists, Communists, Democrats and all other parties.)
Then the revolution in Iran took place, which later fall in hands of clergymen and became the Islamic Revolution.

If Dr. Mossadegh could work in Iran (If Mohammad Reza shah, US and UK let him), the Islamic Revolution never took place.

In Turkey, government keeps religion away, but Iranian government tries to give everything a religious face and we know that nothing but a "way" to stay in power.

Turkey is more advanced in technology with good ties with US and Israel, but Iran is more important in politics of the region, with important effects on Iraq, Syria and other shiyya countries of the region.

armenia forever

I can't say what country is stronger or better as you wish
but i know exactly that USA is with Turkey and against Iran thats why war won't bring anything to any of this countries but destruction terror dead people wifes without husbands mothers without sons children without family and new oil resourses to USA .

P.S. i don't have anything against USA it's just politics any country in place of them would do same thing maybe little more may be less but same

to Mehmet K in this question there is nothing about Armenia and if Turkey's military power is known all around the world why there is no site proving your words

Aur

Im Iranian too :] But I think that religionists are in a way more threatening because they are willing to do anything, even take their life, to do what they beleive is right. But since Im Iranian too I dont know much about turkey either, sorry! Khoodafis & good luck!

Abby lane

Manpower available for military service in Turkey
males age 20-49: 16,756,323
females age 20-49: 16,051,706
Manpower available for military service in Iran
males age 18-49: 18,319,545
females age 18-49: 17,541,037

extra bonus:
Manpower available for military service in the United States
males age 18-49: 67,742,879
females age 18-49: 67,070,144

The questioner should do some research before he displays comments that reflects his approval of answers, "blunt I run for" is wrong to say Turkey itself right now is the strongest in the region. People forget who Iran's Allys are and I believe are loyal, and then Turkey who I believe would stand alone against them in a war. When a country for years shows no loyalty, they will get none in return. Take that to the bank buddy.

not fair

any country that allows religion to rule over everything, i mean everything in my eyes that country is dangers, very dangers.

reason the war between Iran and Iraq, when asked from Iraq's
they would say on the mine fields the Iranian solders would say
alah akbar and run towards the mine fields, groups and groups of them would die.
which it was very shucking for Iraq solders.
as far as which country is more advance without foreign help,
i would say both are the same with the difference that Iranians
will die happily ever after because of their religion beliefs.

to know the truth as far as the percentage of turkeys Muslim
extremist, it is very hard to say, like if what ever the truth is
no one will ever mention it, due to arrests that will happen right on spot.

at list with Iranians we know where we stand but with Turkey
almost nothing is open for public.

by the way Lady Gop
your link was very interesting, and informative

Alana Awareness

Iran supports Greek and Armenia genocides, and dislikes Israel's bond with Turkey. Iran also supports the Kurds. It sure gives them something to fight about. Turkey's military being spread very thin gives Iran a complete military advantage so right at this moment Iranians would kick turkeys a**. I am not suggesting anything either. lol

EDIT: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk opposed the Turkish government's decision to sign the Treaty of Sevres (1920) and forced his government not to honor the treaty after it already had been signed, also he is famous for telling his troops "I don’t order you to fight, I order you to die". Yes hannabal I can see why he is your hero.....

EDIT: My sweet Armenian forever, if the U.S. wanted Iran we would of did that done that already. The only reason we have to attack Iran is if Bin loser and his crew took up residency there. Iran is killing us in so many other ways, but Bush will never get the congress to agree to attack iran, and certainly the U.S. will never take arms with turkey over a battle other then al quada terrorists that's a given. Turkey's on their own, and unless they pull out of Iraq, Cyprus, the boarders of Armenia and where else they are and unwanted, Iran does have a advantage. The U.S. is not monster we have our own agenda thats all.

oooh, look who finally showed, theirs your big money down at the bottom.

hanibal

We have Mustafa Kemal Atatürk . So no need to compare.

mertev

your buddy alana has discovered the secret of life,he/she knows everything lol....military advisor lololol
Comparing Iran and Turkey is like comparing US and Mexico.
Turkish military is in war with PKK for over 25 years and is the most advanced and experienced military power in the region.
We are talking about 1.3 million military personel,manufacturing her own F16's,tanks,warships, helicopters,all kinds of guns and ammo.
And when we talk military,nationalism always brings victory.

єуℓüℓ

for me my country is above anything, clear? I'd do anything for my country's and my personal freedom. not running through military camps with a bomb though, when your brain is not washed, you can find something more creative. but of course i also respect to Iranians that did anything to defend their country. but what I'm saying is that fighting is not just that.

do a little research and find out yourself. i cannot bother myself to answer your questions.

Totally Blunt

In my opinion, regional leadership isn't exactly the same as military might. In this age, countries go a long way before going to war.

Turkey, and before, the Ottomans, never WERE solely religious countries. The religion of the Ottomans were Islam, but they were a monarchy, not a theocracy like Iran. Most Islamic countries founded after the Ottomans mistake this matter.

And the modernization started during Ottoman era. The kings (or padishahs, if you like it that way) were aware of the decline of the empire, and most probably aware of the reasons, too. Unfortunately (for them), the West didn't wait for them to become a modern monarchy, they attacked for spoils. Lacking virgin land, they needed new colonies, and thought the Ottoman lands could be such. You might have found your reason of the influence of certain powers in surrounding countries.

So, in a way, yes, the seperation of religious matters from state matters, which was the way in Ottomans, too, led Turkey to being a modern country.

And yes, Turkey is the leader of the region because of its haves versus the other countries' havenots.

And last, military doesn't rule the country. Military protects the republic from outer and inner enemies. It is the seperatist and Islamic politicians who have hidden or open agenda AGAINST the laicist republic that forces the army to speak.

Irmak

Iran's president is brave not ours..But be sure our people and soldiers are one of the bravest people in this world.

Mehmet K

Armenian does not enjoy to have powerfull neighbours especially Turkey, Why ?
Because not only she has problem with Turkey so-called ermenian genocide but also her invasion to Karabagk and applied real genocide Azerbaijani Turks...

You can find detailed information about so-called ermenian genocide and REAL ermenian GENOCIDE against Azerbaijani Turks:
http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/intro/index.html

From this point of wiev, a war between Turkey and Iran best serves to Armenian. Is it clear now ?

If u want to understand Armenian way terrorism u can watch below linked videos:

Bolum 1
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=-a1c_5APvto

Bolum 2
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=e6JQfU1pXMo
Bolum 3
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=BblzdvhC3II
Bolum 4
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=tljTdQwFoVA

And for the whole links about Iran military power, i believe its not required to speak on this issue, because Iraq had more than those.. For Turkish military power, its well known by all world, if u dont believe u can test it.

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