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Is this what they call "religious tolerance"? |
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http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/9151285.asp?gid=229&sz=67355
How come a person who calls herself a "Turk" can be this ignorant and what kind of mentality do you think this is? How can a person compare the great founder of Turkish Republic to someone like Khomeini?
Don't you think there are much more "freedom of speech" in Turkey than there actually should be? Will the mentality who banned a world wide known web site because of (?) the insults to Ataturk; do something for the level of ignorance and illiberalness these people have too?
Is this what religious tolerance should be? Can people say everything they want without even paying attention to the words that are coming straight from their mouth, while they are hiding behind their religious believes? |
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Totally Blunt
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People just don't realize that the headscarf has turned into the black shirts of Mussolini and the brown shirts of Hitler.
In an ideal world the swastika should be free, too, isn't it? Where's the freedom of speech in European politics? Why do people who ban that, scream freedom for the headscarf? Do they honestly believe any religion gives ultimate freedom to everyone? Which happy planet is that?
This is more than ignorance. This is malintention on the side of the Islamists and cluelessness on the side of the AKP supporter Europeans and Americans. |
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adventurous
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OK... my answers wrt your question order
*a stupid person does, a puppet does, a person who can not thınk ındependently does and you know we have a bunch of them ın Turkey.
*she just dıd. I dont really mınd what she does coz she seems just lıke a braınless person who replıes the Q askıng "why do you love khomenı" as "ı love hım"... thıs ıtself dısproves all her arguments and her style of defendıng hıs truths.
*ı thınk people should say whatever they thınk,"wıthout beıng dısrespectful", because ıt doesnt matter ıf they say or they dont, the thought ıs already exısted. I thınk ıt ıs actually much better ıf ıt ıs known that those people thınk lıke that , so that some certaın buddıes can be cautıous
*Fırst, ı do not belıeve that the relıgıous tolerance should be ın thıs way. The second gırl says "ıt ıs not the same, coz Mohammad ıs a prophet". So, she means a prophet ıs someone more ımportant than a person who leaded a natıon whıle wıpıng all the enemıes out and foundıng a secular(laıc) state ın a regıon where mostly muslım people lıve. However, thıs ıs totally relatıve. Her sayıng proves that she ıs not open mınded at all. She cant see the others. So, people cannot say ıt ıf they dıslıke a prophet, but they are ok when they dıslıke a leader and say ıt out loud. Thıs ıs totally bullsh*t! She ıs such a narrowmınded stupıd person...I really care those becoz they are growıng and growıng. Well, you know "all should have at least 3 chıldren"
*what ı belıeve people should have logıcal reasons to speak stand behınd ıt wıth reasonıng, otherwıse they can go on speakıng but for me and some others they are nothıng more than a mındless lıvıng thıng speakıng(coz a parrot also has a mınd)
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Pala Remzi
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take it easy...
such lunatics and provators are cheap toys for evil minded people
don't let such loser annoy you at all
peace be with you . |
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ՎԱՀԷ
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you know, i remembered something.
when khomeini was in exile in Turkey (30 years ago) he had to put the turban away and put a tie !!!
i saw a pic of him from that time and it was really funny...
but u know, there is not much difference in forcing this hijab regime or banning it! |
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C.
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It is what they call 'stupidity'... I don't think those people deserve to be commented. Funny how some people who don't even have an idea what the girl is talking about, answered your question... |
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gugu
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This freedom of speech and it's boundaries is a very controversial issue throughout the world. There are no universally approved standarts.
For example, if someone says "I hate Atatürk" in Turkey, he or she gets away with it. Because in Turkey, people believe in the freedom of speech.
If someone says "There is no Armenian Genocide" in Belgium or Switzerland, he or she is put in to jail. Because people in these countries believe in the freedom of speech as long as that speech reflects their thoughts. |
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No sugar
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um yep. |
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greetings_losers
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As long as they dont encourage other people to create a physical turmoil (this includes physical attacking either to living or non living beings) I think everyone should be able to say whatever they think. I dont find these girls' thoughts disturbing. They obviously dont intend to hurt anyone else. I certainly dont agree with them. Of course they dont have to love Atatürk and they can openly say that. Loving Humeyni but not Atatürk only makes them hilarious in stable persons' minds. I dont even consider myself a democratic person but I dont see anything harmful in their perception of the world and things as long as they are well behaved kids. My undemocratic subconscious, tho, would love to buy them 2 economy class tickets to Tehran. 50 years ago that could be possible :D |
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♥Barış Awareness♥
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So in your view this
woman can not have
freedom of speech
and call herself a Turk
too, if you do not agree
with what she is saying.
I really don't know what she said
but whatever she said I
believe she had the right
to express it. There is
no such thing is too much
freedom of speech. The real
problem is not her right to
say it, or her right to freedom
of religion, it is what she is
saying and what she believes
right?.
You are questioning these rights
when in fact you are hiding behind
them to justify your anger in allowing
her to have them.
That is illiberalness.
Oh yea, yea, the world
is so much better off now
in knowing the dangers
in allowing women to
wear the headscarf.
Thanks to the freedom-right
riders in Turkey who
got world coverage
for opposing the
women's right to
exercise freedom
of expression, all in the
name of democracy.
They will never be
forgotten I am sure.
@cinderella, I really don't
care what this woman said,
that is not the issue. The
question asked if she had
the right to say it. Those who
disagreed with her opinion
and insulted her answered
stupidly. |
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Trotsky vs Kerensky- НекIо!
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I don't think people, or rather the most disgusting, repulsive forms of human existence like her are worth commenting on. I'm sure she's very thankful for being famous now. I invite her to go back to the bosom of the most beloved Anglo-Saxons where she can enjoy her so called, bullshit religious freedom. People like her don't deserve to live in our country nor they deserve a leader like Atatürk, because they are averse and alien to the very holy pillars that this country is built upon. |
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