My last question to muslim turks?

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turkishdlite

Its not like ALL Turks agree with the decisions that the government makes. Yes, it is sad that the hijabi women do not have the same rights as nonhijabi women. You know, have to understand that these people are brainwashed to think that being covered is not "modern" which is totally ridiculous. You can be modern and cover at the same time. Just because your covered doesn't mean your ignorant and have a backwards way of thinking. There are two sides to this ordeal and hopefully one day it'll end but for now there isn't much we can do.

By the way, the person who commented above me has some serious issues. Who the hell do you think you are? You have no right to bash Turkish people and your not God, you don't know for sure if someone is burning in hell. Not ALL Turks think this way. I'm Turkish and I think its ridiculous. I don't have an obligation to explain myself to you but I feel the need to enlighten you since you are in need of it. Go do some research before you go and trash talk people. Have you even ever talked to a Turk before? Did you hear what they had to say? I doubt it, since your talking nonsense.

BuseTurk

The secular state has nothing against women with hijab. I know because i have maybe over a 100 women family members that live in Turkey that wear the hijab and they are fine with not being allowed to wear hijab to school. The government does not want religion and government to clash so they ban any religious symbols in state owned and state run areas. There is no ban on wearing it outside of schools tho so everyone should be ok with it. Also another reason i would not like it if people wore hijab to those areas is because think about how the women without hijab would feel? they would feel out of place and too open which would eventually pressure them into covering up and that my friend is called pressure and i guess you can call it forcing someone to cover up for stupid reasons.

adventurous

I ll not dive deep into this discussion and will not try to give some sh1t for the people who think they are informed so well enough to judge all the Turkish society and Ataturk...

I have managed to read Quran and didint see covering as a must do. It really is not... Instead, there are a lot other MORE IMPORTANT messages to all human beings, it is so poor of all the people (directed by the mass media) who are stuck to this issue

Chris G

Let's see. Why don't you try wearing a big crucifix to a school in Saudi-Arabia shouting "Jesus Saves" while holding a bible?

You'll get thrown in prision if you do. You might even get executed. And this is the heart of Islam. How tolerant are they of others belief?

Why is it that extremist muslims ask/demand that we respect their ways while not respecting others?

I think it's extreme that Turkish women can't wear hijab to school. But many Turks know that one thing will lead to the next and before you know it women won't be allowed to do much of anything anymore. And that will stifle the progress.

Ã‡etin

1)Anglo Saxon secularism is different from France based Laicism .TÃ¼rkiye is the laic state.i don't agree that USA and Ä°srael is the secular state.I'm not interresting about it,too.Don't forget , every people has different historical events and truths.
2)Mustafa Kemal AtatÃ¼rk and his camarades realised their Revolution against to the Empire and Ottoman Empire is not an industries country.With the some important decisions (laicism is one of that's) we developed to the industry country.We changed the laws , the citizens life style and the production style too. This is modernism .in the people life ,the most important is the science not religion.same as all the modern countries,in TÃ¼rkiye , all the rules btw citizens must agree with these visions.
3) Todays,in TÃ¼rkiye ,the main problems aren't the women cloths .Kemalist want to become that TÃ¼rkiye is the independent-industrialised country but, some political and religionist sides want to control the Turkish citizens with the religion . They want to convert our state dependent-colony country .As a Kemalist,My decision is independent country and modern people.
4)finally , i recommend to you some issues to understand what happens in TÃ¼rkiye and all the middle-east countries ,Todays.

**http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/380315711.html?dids=380315711:380315711&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Aug+7%2C+2003&author=Condoleezza+Rice&pub=The+Washington+Post&edition=&startpage=A.21&desc=Transforming+the+Middle+East
**http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7705
**http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

please check out this link for more info.about Mustafa Kemal AtatÃ¼rk:
http://www.ataturk.com/

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please think more deeply about this supposed problem.in TÃ¼rkiye , every women can head scarf , in the real life there isn't any restriction . Today,we haven't problem to be good muslims.

Oekaki

Hijab is perceived by many Turks as a symbol of the inferior status of women in Muslim countries. They say: "Why should a woman cover herself so that the men don't get bad ideas, why can't the men learn to control themselves and not get turned on by something as simple as hair? And why don't men have to cover themselves so that women don't get bad ideas?"

From this point of view, hijab is a degrading piece of clothing that is *forced* upon a girl either by her family or by society, and no woman in her right mind would *choose* to wear it without prior brainwashing or outside pressure. So, from this point of view, when a girl is asked to drop the hijab in order to enter the university, she is in fact being liberated from her brainwashing and from the outside pressure to wear it.

When girls insist on wearing the hijab in universities, secular Turks see sneaky militant Islamists in them, and they start to think about the Islamic revolution in Iran. Such a revolution happening in Turkey is the ultimate nightmare of all secular-minded Turks. They start to think: "If we allow the hijab today, they will ask tomorrow to be excused from class during prayer times, they will ask that no exams be scheduled during Ramadan, they will ask that women be taught by female teachers and men be taught by male teachers, etc etc."

Paranoia, you say? Just a few days ago, a hijab-wearing Turkish woman on a KLM flight has asked the stewardesses to change the seat of the guy sitting next to her (who happened to be a member of the Amsterdam municipal council), simply because she didn't want to sit next to a man. Just yesterday, the owner of a lingerie shop in Malatya was intimidated by his neighbours for displaying lingerie-wearing mannequins in his shop. Every now and then, you read news about female doctors refusing to treat male patients. Every year during Ramadan, restaurant owners in conservative towns receive threats and complaints if they insist on staying open during fasting time. Every year during Ramadan, people get beaten up in universities for eating or smoking in public places. And so on and so forth.

Being a secular-minded Turk myself, I am not a big fan of the hijab. I think it is an outdated Middle Eastern tradition that has nothing to do with the core of Islam. Having said that, I do think that banning the hijab in universities serves no purpose other than making these people feel as victims and providing ammunition for the extremists. People should be free to wear whatever they want in universities. At the same time, though, the Turkish government and the Turkish people should be constantly alert and careful about sneaky Islamists trying to impose their worldview and their taboos on other people around them.

gugu

eewww

suddenly "suddenly skopje" seemed cute to me when compared to these freaks
I cannot believe I said this.
ce la vie!!!

Hey mind your own business, will you?

Totally Blunt

What are you talking about? Most of us have covered women in our families and they haven't suffered from discrimination for once.

And this still is not a question. A question would look like this:

"What do you think about covered women as university students?"

See? It's not so hard to conform to Yahoo rules. You only need to ASK rather than pass judgement.

"Wallh its haram"???

Isn't it haram to make it a rule to cover women up? That's AGAINST the freedoms your prophet gave to women. If there is something haram, it is this outdated tradition.

I am not reporting this question, because above answerers put a lot of effort in putting you right. At least respect the pains they have taken and don't post such ridiculous not-quite-questions again.

handsome

weell, not very much so dude.
You are not exactly asking this question in the right place for it.
Most of the answerers here don`t respect the head scarf or simply don't like it. To answer your question, yes women with head scarves deserve due respect and yet they don't get it. Most of the atheists or communists on this site will not hesitate to report questions like these, cause they are simply incapable of tolerating other people for what they choose to wear. What's worse is though, you won't see a single question or comment of theirs complaining about women with
mini skirts or those who choose to exhibit their body freely.
Freedom for one but not for the other that is our secularity.
And if you go too far to question this we have judges that will turn red even at the thought of Islam. Massalam.

leave K

honey .. I have been in your situation before .. ive been askin turkish commen sense logical QUestionss. they will never admit it. they are in denial they either attack u personally or report you . they have no logical. they dont follow islam they follow attaturk's religion that freak is burnin in hell right now

my advice is. dont even bother with the turkish ppl. they aren't even welcomed anywhere because they are nationalists.if it wasnt for the germans who visit turkish every summer.. Turkey would be like Africa

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