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Mr. Bobo

Under NATO doesn't Turkey deserve help against the PKK?

Why has this not come up. Iraq is not a NATO member. Turkey is where is the NATO alliance which insures mutual assistance.

http://www.nato.int/ims/docu/terrorism.htm

http://www.nato.int/structur/countries.htm
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Edit: Young Turk; Al Qaeda, PKK, IRA, Tamil Nationalists, Black September, PLF , Gal, Front de Libération du Quebec and other groups don't have recognized states either.

    



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Ipek K
All right...


I had enough.

The realist and alana, you dont know nothing.

I live in the war zone -Iraqi border- while you are having your coffee's in the United States and talking your nonsense, our young soldiers- both Turkish or Kurdish origin- may even be Armenian origin- are dying everyday for the past 20 years because of PKK- Btw, it is an recognised terriorist group like ASALA - but you are so heartless that you don't even care for it. So tell me ; why would we care about Armenians who died DURING A WAR 90 something years ago after they betrayed the country they were living in?

Mount Ağrı being Armenian?? LOL.. Go, fool Americans who don't know about this country's geography but don't try it on us. It was yours thousand years ago.. We took it from you so deal with it.

Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? Run -aways to USA? Come back and live in Armenia , then tell me your thoughts about your opinions reading YOUR (!!!!) USA trying to invade Iraq and killing civilians for oil!.

You would be shocked if you learn how much I have the right to talk on behalf of Americans but I wont give you that opportunty. Since the realist have my "number", I dare her to find out and tell it in public!! This is an open arena and I am here !! Lets see the best of you!!

Stop making yourselves as fun materials here.. Your ignorance is disgusting me!. Learn about the rest of the word for God's sake!

BTW, Alana, you cant even scare a child with your ridiculus bits and pieces of knowledge - Al- Queda being Turkish origined? LoL!!! and what was that about Chinese???. :D

Your sad attempts of making disgusting pictures of us and cloning our 360 pages is only going to cause you more trouble.. Beware...............

I am sorry Asker but I can not tolerate this pitiful behaviour any more, therefore I used your question to say a few words..

In this context, let me tell you that Nato is not playing by the rules -you can check from the rules and regulations of the organisation - but it is not the problem. We have a very strong Army and the problem is going to be solved by us in due course.


Anoosh
No turkey do not deserve anything, sorry guys.


Abby lane
Isn't Turkey tired of the PKK yet! Settle your problems with the Kurds they want equal rights give it to them. How many people have to die before the Turkish Government gets a clue.


Dr. Beemer
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Young Turk has the right, and the best answer.


di
Most of these answers are so angry they don't even make sense. No wonder there hasn't been a solution yet.


anlarm
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Yes, on paper Turkey deserves it.
A small explanation for Realist. As you and we all know quite well, the invasion of Iraq was not justified. There were no weapons of mass destruction. Saddam's being a dictator was not a justifiable reason to invade Iraq (what about Saudi Arabia? Is that a democracy?). Usame bin Ladin was not in Iraq. The US army invaded Iraq for petrol only. Everybody knows that. Why would Turkey help US to invade a neighbor?
Turkey did help in the past by sending troops to die in Korea, just because USA said so (don't tell me it was a UN decision. The USSR delegate went out of the meeting in a fury and they passed the resolution before he returned). It was a US/Nato war in Korea under the UN umbrella.
Turkey also maintained the largest army (after USA) against the USSR. The Turkish army was defending the 'free world' against 'communism'. But then it became publicly known that in case of a tactical Soviet attack, the US was ready to let more than half of Turkey to be invaded and then (perhaps) retaliate with a tactical nuclear weapon. Is this how a NATO ally behaves?
Turkish soldiers shed enough blood saving the valuable bottoms of US soldiers in Korea (Kunuri-where the US general decided to surrender but the Turkish colonel ordered a bayonet attack and pushed back the Chinese army, leaving hundreds of Turkish troops dead there).
Now, PKK, a terrorist organization is using its bases in US controlled northern Iraq and attacking Turkey. They are using US Army weapons and equipment. There are even rumors that they now own US tanks!
I suggest you learn your lesson well before criticising.
I wish your soldiers a safe return home from Iraq.

edit: only 3 answers besides mine and I got 2 thumbsdown. interesting.


jenny
Deserve help? Well, yes, but let´s face facts. Actually eliminating the PKK threat would inevitably result in a more stabil and independant Turkish nation. This is a nice goal if you live in Turkey, but not if you are a NATO leader, who fears that a too strong Turkey will no longer bow to their every wish and stop playing the role of a friendly buffer-state to the Middle East. So now that Turkish politics are actually becoming less scandalous and its economy actually moving forward, helping them fight PKK just might put Turkey in a position to decide for themselves who they would like to be "friends" with.
Therefore, no help from NATO.
Just my own opinion.

(Anlarm - I like your answer! Thumbs up from me)


Hurricane
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of course we deserve help,but nobody supports us in the world! they don't even care about us! they always say "we are so sorry..." there are lots of things that should have been done already,but when it comes to Turkey nobody will help us.


Totally Blunt
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International politics, as I have seen lately to my dismay, isn't about what is just. It's about what benefits whom.

PKK terrorism, Iraqi invasion, Bosnian genocide, Darfur genocide... All could have been stopped, or even better, wouldn't have happened, if their occurance didn't help somebody in the wider political game of the "powers".

When it comes to benefit, those "powers" aren't interested in the survival of the individual. That's why we should subvert their ugly games by seeing through it and not falling for it.


Alana Awareness
The PKK is your problem like Iraq
was our problem. Funny how things
have a way of coming right back at ya!

Alarm I just gave you one buddy..lol
edit) Now you got it Young Turk at least
you recognize that truth.
Mehet if that were true there would be no PKK..
Hey heres a thought, why don't you just surrender
to the Kurds. Give them what they want and call it a day.

Ipek :(Oh shut up you long winded imbecile.
Beware of this, your alone in your pkk
problem because your ruthless heartless
country with blood rivers and the stench
of death that reeks through your villages
.haunted by your past because your
resistance to acknowledge it. I will not dignify
your accusations with any response, but you
better have the proof to back it up so beware
of that! And furthermore I don't want scare
children not even close but whenever have
you spoke the truth. No you reap what you
sow. FEEL BAD not a chance.
I am glad your suffering that's the legacy
your ancestors
left behind for all of you to endure. Yes
I live in the US the country you hung to
dry in 2003 for your own vicious purposes.
I don't even pity you as I drink my
coffee in the morning. I enjoyed
reading about your pain and
misery I hope it continues.

Dear Tanju,
I notice you say nothing to Ipek who
I am responding to. Her comment
is disgusting and written by a baboon.
No I understand completely.
Your a fraud dear, and I am sorry
that you fooled me. Now I say
mind your business.


Tanju
Dear Bobo,

Only one question for you .
If you want , you can answer ...
Forget it read ...

Do you believe NATO ?
Simple question and simple answer ...

I never believe NATO ...
In my opinion NATO = US ...

If US want, NATO do it ...
Everybody knows ...

Sorry, but this is real ...

To Alana,
Well Done(!) Alana, You can glad to Continue ...
But do not say something Tomorrow, for us ...
I hope, you got it, what I said ...
Again for you Well Done (!) ...

Alana, One question and simple answer, I need ...
When you finish your writing, (Before Submit) Do you read it your answer, again and again ?
Do you remember my question and My Subject about you ...
That is the answer and difference for you and Sera ...
And Did you remember your answer ?
I am sure, You did not remember it ...


Realist
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What country ever said sorry about not helping Turkey. Did Turkey say sorry to the US after they refused to help the US in Iraq at the start of the war. Hello anyone home????????? Name one thing you have done for the US, and I am sure I can think of at least 10 things you did to try and hurt us.
Your sorry excuses don't cut it for me aalarm, your country was in violation of its agreement to help the US,. there were no exceptions and there was no evidence at the point either of weapons being or not in Iraq. This situation in Iraq today would of been so much better if we would of been able to secure the Northern part of Iraq at the beginning. Your country risked the lives of our US troops on your theories ...get away from me!


hanibal
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We don't need any help of NATO.

Most of NATO members are still feeding the pkk.

My enemies are not only pkk.

I advice them to read our history again. If we get angry no one can stand on us.

AND WE ARE ANGRY NOW .


Mehmet K
Sure, Turkey deserves...

But in fact we dont need for any help against PKK.. A quarter of our army (in fact this will be too much) can easily defeat PKK.

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Penquin Girl

We dont have any problem with Kurt origin Turkish citizens, but we have problem with PKK terrorists. All kurds have same wrights with Turks.

And by the Turks will never tired when the subject is homeland. World history full with the Turks story.

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genç türk
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It is not conventional warfare. There is not a recognized state fighting against us.
Pretty much like a dillema isn't it?

EDIT: Simply put, NATO = USA. That should explain.

EDIT2: Plus, if we can't defeat some eÅŸkiya with AK47's and grenades at their disposal, what kind of army do we have? We would have been ridiculed by the world!





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