What do you know about Armenian Genocide?

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ՎԱՀԷ

What do you expect them except swearing and telling bad words?
They don't know the truth and it is not their fault.
People of Turkey are eager for improvement of their country and IF they knew the reality they would never try to hide the fact, just like many of Turkish intellectuals.

tes

If I say its a lie I won't be able to explain the following link,

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

but I really don't know. Sorry guys! I want to be honest,.

The only thing I know is that, people are not angels (I'm not saying Turks or Armenians) though history. We have to accept the truth no matter how wrong we might be and we should not create an "imaginary" history.

ps: I'm not referring to Turks or Armenians

Stranger in Sweden

hm... we learn that it did happen, like in most countries in Europe.

Pinky

Wow i can see the amount of ppl denying this,I'm not trying to be racist here,but actually its not nice to deny something!

Edit~@Tanju,yes ur right,i know nothing about Turkey or Armenians,i only know a little of Armenian Genocide,and here In Lebanon we have lots of Armenians who claims what ur Turkish Government did to them.

"The Turkish government rejects the characterization of the events as genocide"
The pictures actually proves it all,and it is called genocide,i only blame the Government not u Turks!!!

Edit~@istanbulbogazi,u might be right,i respect that ur taking side of ur country!!!!!

Edit~@THE TURKISH GENTLEMAN,u feel pity cuz i prefer Armenians?
I think u should feel pity for u Government for what they've done,Lets all not forget that ur Turkish Government used the Armenians to steal their lands by killing each one,and forced them not to get out in Turkey,except there are few Armenians that made it out!!

Edit~~@THE TURKISH GENTLEMAN,no i dont come from an Armenian origin or have an Armenian Husband,or got to do anything with Armenians,and its not about taking sides wether the middle eastern should take side with Turkey cuz their Muslim,infact I'm Muslim myself,but i only take side with the ones that have the RIGHTS!

Edit~@THE TURKISH GENTLEMAN,we are talking about the Armenian genocide which happened years ago,im not talking about Turkey TODAY!
And dont change the subject by bringing Last years war in Lebanon,cuz nobody stood beside us or helped us!!

Edit~@TURKISH GENTLEMAN,Yes ur right that Armenains are over reacting about the Genocides im not denying this,and im not hiding that yes there were several of Turks that got killed,and i have no clue why Armenians are not opening the offical archives,maybe there is something behind it!
I can no longer explain more about this,cuz i only know a little!

Edit@karasu,u wish!!! Israel did not **** us,can u believe a small group like Hezbollah ***** a COUNTRY????
Yea Israel did kill innocent Lebanese lives,but we killed their SOLIDERS!!!
They can only mess with our citizins cuz its easier for them to kill,but not our Soldiers!

Edit~karasu,i cant bother argueing with u since u sound like a F****n B*tch!

Edit~@karasu,who said i hate you Turks?
Whats ever stuck up ur @$$ take it out,cuz u sound constipated!

LMiserab

I heard about it. But I don't have enough information. I think, this happened around the Russian revolution (1917) by the Turkish, if I am not mistaken.

meerkat

i totally believe that it happened and the Armenians were the ones that were hurt the most during WWI. millions of innocent people died. its just like the holocaust, some people like Ahmadinejad don't believe it happened and that is very stupid of him!

O.CETIN BAYRAMOGLU

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The deserter Armenians who were equipped with the most modern weapons started to retreat towards Erzurum after the Erzincan massacres. The Russian artillery officers, who were to protect the logistics lines from the kurdish attacks, were forced to retreat with their guns.
In one of those lines a necessity of placing a unit for a probable clash occurred. The Armenians, who were discomforted with the orders, set the Russian officers’ houses a fire while they were sleeping, Russian officers barely managed to get out. Most of their war gears were burned into ashes.
The Armenian mobs retreating from Erzincan to Erzurum
exterminated all the Muslim villagers they met on their way. The artillery guns that were being withdrawn from the logistics support lines were being transferred on the covered wagons. The wagons were under the care of the hired, civilian and unarmed kurds. As the convoy came closer to Erzurum, the Armenian deserters and the troops started to kill those kurds at the places where they stopped for a rest. They realized their evil deeds whenever the Russian officers entered their rooms. Whenever the Russian officers came out of their rooms on hearing the clamors, and tried to save the kurds, the armed mob walked over, and threatened them with the same end.
Those massacres were carried out in the most repulsive manner. For example, at a meeting held by the artillery officers at the Erzurum Garrison, Lieutenant Mzivani narrated an incident he witnessed: an Armenian soldier approached a kurd who was dying in agony, running, and tried to push the stick in his hand into his mouth. As he could not manage to push the stick into his mouth that was tightly closed, he took the dying man’s clothes off, and started to kick his naked body with his iron heeled boots.
All of those who could not manage to flee from Ilıca2 were
massacred. The Army Commander [General Odichelitzé] said he saw lots of corpses belonging to children whose throats were butchered with blunt knives, and bodies cut into thin and long strips.
2 Ilıca district affiliated to Erzurum.
.../...

Tiko

Armenion Genocide started from 1890's but was most violent at 1915. In Turkey many Armenians were doing well at the time. However them being a christian in a muslim nation cost more then a million their lives. Ottomen Turks at the time were in conflict with Russia thus they thought Armenians would join the Russian forces so they decided to exterminate Armenians for being Christian.
Armenian Genocide was the first of the 20th century and it was a well known fact through most nations. Adolf Hitler claimed that it is ok to kill jews because "no one did anything about the Armenian Gecocide".

Masis

ARMENIAN GENOCIDE is a fact will be recognized by whole world very soon...

To Pinky:
I remember your dance question and answers you got from turks, go back and read how sweet they are when it is needed, and then they show their true face.
Don't get angry over nothing, you told us what you think and I thank you for your support of Armenians
And you are right about Israeli' killing innocent people, they will even kill their own to get what they want.

Dr. Beemer

I know that its a fact and its the past we cant change anything about it.

Slick Rick

All fabrication by the Armenians.
NUTTERS
But I don't mind the yahoo Amenians going on about it like Old women, it just makes them look stupid.This hapenned nearly a hundred years ago. Who are you looking to blame and how are you going to find them?

So Turkish (Ottamans) expelled Aremians from Istanbull in a time of war . and made them walk to Armeinia after The Armienians attacked Turkey.

GET OVER IT

HOTTürk

Sorry, i do not know anything about the SO-CALLED Armenian Genocide.

sultan.murat

which armenian genocide? that hoax or that myth
or this other fairy tale? Which one?

ZORBeY^

Listen to the last words of Artin Penik an Armenian citizen of Turkey who burned himself to protest so called genocide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh2f2qsc5Yg&feature=PlayList&p=CD8C264E88F34D48&index=0

edd

Your exiled grandparents,many of whom died on the way to Syria, were the victims of the the Allied countries who supported Ottoman Armenians against the Ottomans.
Stalin did the same thing to the Crimean people and the Turks who lived near the Turkish border,since they colloborated with the Germans.America did the same thing to its japanese citizens in the war with Japan.
However,bigoted and obsessed Armenians never want to look at the matter from this point of view.
I hope all Armenians,obssesed with this genocide lie,will get rid of their obssesion and be our dearest friends,because we,at least I myself,have a lot in common with each other.
Take care.

Gunner

I think the subject is no worse than the Armenian genocide against the Jews as Hitler's allies. Guess you forgot that? The Armenians were in revolt against a soverign nation. What is the Armenian excuse for trying to exterminate the Jews from the face of the earth? Can you see the difference?

â? MÎ?Ð¯Â©á»®Å?Â¥ â?¢ â?

Aye aye aye...
Here we go ...

Just all of u do what i say, its just 2 steps process...

open two internet browsers, near each other, duhhhhh
type in google dot come in both...
except in one of em search ARMENIAN GENOCIDE, nd in other one type TURKISH GENOCIDE....
now see the results;)
Impressin aint it?
Does that mean anythin?
Oh yea...
if u don get any point outta it then u know that u r TURK ;)

nice scientific theory concluded... ;)

peace yall

genç türk

Exactly the same that I know about Santa Claus.

mertev

Unfortunately some bad things happened during that time but it was war time.Turkish side never denies what happened and opens the war archives which says somewhere between 200-300 thousand Armenians were died during the relocation.Armenian side refuses to open the archives and says 1,5 million Armenians were killed systematicly but never mention about what happened to the Armenian population in Istanbul or the other major cities of the empire.They don't want to answer how 1,5 million can be killed while whole Armenian population in the empire was 1 million.They don't want the world to know that who started the conflict or what would be the punishment of betrayel during the time period.On the other hand Ottoman empire was not alone in the 1st WW,nothing could be found in the German archives,or British or French not even in the Russian.
All we can say now is it was a sad occasion,unfortunately happened but it can not called genocide it was only one of the massacres of the 1st WW.

Joannah

I wonder if you read my posting earlier. This is an excerpt from a paper I wrote during my IR days.

Armenian dilemma in the writings of XIX century Missionaries

Western readers have unwillingly fallen victim to outrageous mendacities about the East as presented by excessively biased authors for many-many years. This giant propaganda machine has developed new and cunning techniques over the years of its existence to falsify and fabricate facts and disseminate predisposed information to serve the interests of certain groups. According to some analysts, this problem often stemmed from the so-called “clash of civilizations” phenomenon. One would certainly agree with this statement particularly when obvious traces of strong religious and ethnic sentiments is evident in most cases of such “biased documentations”.

When speaking on the sources of information written about the alleged Armenian “genocide”, it is absolutely necessary to mention diaries and other writings by XIX century American and European missionaries who were at that time living in Ottoman territories, Writings which constituted an invaluable asset to the historiography of this region and its nations. Christian missionaries in the first half of this century displayed a natural, strong and biased sympathy for the Christian population of the region, a fact which was evidenced through their writings. However, this attitude waned as the years passed, giving way to a more liberal and secular inclination that too was reflected in these missionaries’ writings. It is noteworthy to mention that the same aforementioned Christian missionaries have had a dual impact on the Ottoman national interest particularly from a religious standpoint. The teaching of the Christian faith, its morals and other related topics have left an exceptionally positive influence upon the governance of the Christian population by instilling a sense of loyalty and devotion to the State. Despite that “influence”, their writings still depicted the Turkish nation and the Ottoman Empire in particular as nothing but barbaric and atrocious in their approach towards non-Muslims. However, the years spent living amongst Turks exposed these Christian missionaries to the realities of the region which in turn paved the way for a more objective and impartial account of the situation.

One of such missionaries in particular was Cyrus Hamlin, who came from a highly reputable family from the United States (his nephew Hannibal Hamlin was the first Republican vice-president) worked in this “period of transition” and was witness to the steady efforts instigated by Armenian nationalist groups in order to provoke atrocities in the Eastern regions of the country. Despite being anti-Turkish throughout his life, Hamlin, in his article “A Dangerous Movement Among the Armenians” (“The Congregationalist”, December 28, 1897), unmasked a malicious plot prepared by Armenian revolutionaries who were trained and funded by “Russian gold”. These revolutionaries forewarned the Christian missionaries & Christian populace as well about these plans. This plan as described by Hamlin, based on his conversation with a young Armenian radical, armed bands organized by «…a secret “revolutionary party” [Huntchag] managed with a skill in deceit which is known only in the East» caused great evil and suffering to not only the missionary work but also to the whole Christian population of Eastern parts of the Turkish Empire. The article also wrote of Armenian revolutionary leaders preparing appallingly wicked plans against fellow Armenians residing in Anatolia in order to pave the way for the Russian Empire’s intervention and subsequent occupation of eastern Ottoman territories. Furthermore, organized covert Armenian bands strategically settled all over the empire lay in wait for an opportune occasion at which to attack the Kurdish and Turkish population, burn their villages so as to provoke Muslims into retaliation, and thus paving the way for Russia’s entrance “in the name of humanity and the Christian civilization and take possession”. The young Armenian goes on to state that “the local Armenian population who preferred the Turks to the Russians would have to suffer because of their stupidity”.

Hamlin’s article offers compelling evidence of Armenian realities in the Ottoman Empire in the late XIX and early XX centuries. At this time, on one hand, Western Powers indulged in their plans to divide and grab a slice of the Ottoman cake, and on the other hand, Czarist Russia wanting to occupy Eastern parts and both sides placed their stakes on the Armenian population of that region, to which the value of the Armenian card increased outrageously. Czarist Russia made particularly successful moves during 1813-1828 by engaging in the massive resettlement of the Armenian population from Iran and Turkey into the adjacent territories of modern-day Azerbaijan and Armenia to create a cordon, as well as a base station for future advancements.
As the article by C. Hamlin indicates, Czarist Russia concurrently engaged in destructive work in the Christian population of the region, particularly among Ottoman Armenians. It funded and trained Dashnak and Huntchag bands, which in turn terrorized the Armenian population and forced them to contribute and participate in the plan to instigate ethnic clashes which in turn will lay the blame on the Turkish population and thus, hope to catch world’s attention and sympathy affording them further support to their ultra-nationalistic plans. Sadly enough, owing to this misguided “nationalism”, scenarios similar to the ones perpetrated elsewhere were planned and staged in Azerbaijan on numerous occasions towards the end of XX century (including Sumgait events), thus culminating in the unlawful secession of approximately 20% of territories of a sovereign nation.

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As you asked in your previous questions about living and learning. We never stop learning. We have our whole lives to learn and the truth is out there, if you would just get past your prejudices and overcome them, the Truth awaits you. Peace.

yav

i was not around in that time i dont know what really happened. but i dont believe in it

habisce

It's a lie.

? ? ? I. A. ? ? ?

It's like believing in Spiderman, Superman, Fantastic Four,etc..

DejaVu

Its all made up by Armenians to claim land and money from Turkey....

it was a war, and more Turks were killed then Armenians...

I am not even gonna mention about how many lifes ASALA has taken without a war...

Hurricane

if you are so intersted in truths,ok listen up carefully and don't ask this question again!
So-called genocide is a lie,that was made up by armenians to get some land and money from Turkey! no more!
ok in the past you killed our soldiers with french and russian army and then we killed yours too but taht was a war scene not a genocide.in 1980's armenains suddenly decides to make up a lie and congratulations there are lots of people who believes your lies! it is an obvious lie because you say Turks killed 1.5 million armenians hahaha,there weren't even 500.000 armenians in 1920 in Turkey! That's just funny...

karasu

Armenians betrayed Ottoman Empire because Armenians were thirsty for innocent people's blood as their grandchildren are.You killed countless Turks as you killed, raped thousands of Azerbaijanis.

pinky,didn't Israel soldiers **** you **.Get lost,you're *****.

Your soldiers're coward.They served Israel soldiers like girls.
They served coffee :))))

You're *****.If you don't like us,you can f*** yourself.What's pinky?Is it your street name?

What's that you w****!Didn't you say you wouldn't reply :))))
Tell me how many you can take in your a** during one night :))))

istanbul bogazi

armenia i know that you haven't yet answered my previous question. And that shows everything about your so called armenian history:)

Tanju

Dear Armenia,

You do not believe us, or maybe You do not like again my answer, but I must say,

Do you know Samuel A. Weems ? Please read it his books.
I am sure, you will find all your answer...

Something About him,
Samuel A. Weems (December 12, 1936 – January 25, 2003) was the writer of the book Armenia: The Secrets of a "Christian" Terrorist State and a disbarred Arkansas lawyer . He was disbarred while holding the held the office of prosecuting attorney, and wasn't immediately removed from the office, despite the disbarment decision.

He unsuccessfully ran for the position of mayor of Hazen county in 1994 and 1998.

He and David Duch were opposing candidates for mayor of Hazen in 1998. The election was initially certified as a tie. An absentee ballot was received in the mail from James Taylor, a registered voter in Prairie County, four days later. The vote was for Duch. Later, Weems made an appeal which was dismissed, because it was not filed in a timely manner.

He made various controversial remarks such as: "the religion of the Armenians is fake", ”the Armenians have never been known as truth tellers.", "the number one export of Armenia is terrorism". He ordered people of Armenian Diaspora in United States to just go to their home, Armenia: "Isn't it past time for all you to just go to Armenia and stay there? Just go home!" In March 2002 Weems visited Turkey on the occasion of the 81st anniversary of the assassination of Talat Paşa and spoke on the Armenian issue and about the smear campaign against Turkey in Europe and the United States, in numerous interviews with Turkish news agencies as well as in the universities of Istanbul and Ankara. He was also making arrangements about printing the book in Turkish language.

Take Care

To Pinky,
Dear Pinky,
What do you know about Turkiye ? Have you ever been to Turkiye ? How do you believe it this big lie ?
Did you see it ?
How can I believe, which one is right ? Do you know, Armenian Government denied to open their archives ? On the contrary, Turkish Government opened all Ottoman Archive.
Do you know, how many mosque in Armenian ?
I am saying, ' Zero'...
What about in Istanbul ? How many Armenian Church in Istanbul, do you know ?
Lots of and lots of Turkish Armenian goes without problem... Do you know it ?
So, Please answer me ( Look, I said please, if you understand it what I mentioned ?
And I am wonder, your answer (I mean Joannah asked you)
Regards

Addition-2 To Pinky,
Dear Pinky,
I am really thank you for your answer . Another question, please answer me or ask your Lebonan Armenian Friends ...
I got it your answer.
Your friends hate us and our Turkish Government, Everybody knows, Tes and Armenia are also knows..
Well, why did you invite to Turkish Army in Lebonan ? Your Defence or Deputy Minister (He is also Armenian) said our Defence Minister,
- Please come to our Country. We need you ?
Is this right ? What do you know it ?
Again, Please answer me, if you want ? Or, you can ask any question for me ...

To Tes,
Dear Tes,
If you want, you can answer all my questions ? What do you know about it ?
You said 'ps: I'm not referring to Turks or Armenians' ...
What do you mean ? I did not understand please a little bit more clear ? Thanks...
Take Care

Dear Asuman and Dear Joannah,
Thank you for your answers. I hope, everyone will be know, what is the truth ...
Take care both of you...

*****
Dear Armenian Friends,
I am really thank you for reading my answers. I am so happy.
Now, Evantually , you understood it, what is the truth,
Regards

THE MAD TURKISH JAZZMAN

You don't even know what you're talking about. you are a brainwashed child ( you are 19 years old ? So how could you know the real life ? )
Plus why do you ask a question, in Turkey section, and don't even respect our answers ?
If you think that you know the truth, so why do you ask questions ?

Beemer is obsessed with that, because his dream is to get a good money and to own some real estate in Turkey. If I ever see you in the streets, I'll give you 10 bucks so you can eat at Mc Donalds.

Pinky, each time I see a Libanese who prefers Armenians, I feel pity...Hamas + armenian communauty, your country has serious problems.

You should all read the excellent answers written by Mister Tanju, Hannibal, Asuman,Johanna, Istanbulbogazi....

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