What do you say about the ban of headscarves in universities...?

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anlarm

This problem has two (or more) faces.
1- It is ridiculous to cover heads. It has nothing to do with Islam.
2- Western countries are once again showing double standarts. One day they say women with headcovers cannot enter schools (Germany, France etc.), the next day they say they can.
3- In a democratic society everybody has the right to education. So, those girls should also be allowed to go to university.
On the other hand, if I go to university wearing a swimming suit, I will not be allowed in. I can always claim to belong to a 'religious' group and that swimming suit is a must in our belief. So, where do we draw the line?
If I could just believe that those girls are covering their heads completely out of religious reasons, I would say let them get in. But I have a strong feeling that most of them are doing it for political reasons. Can they, honestly, tell me that Turks were less Muslims some 40 years ago? There wasn't one single girl with her head covered in Turkish universities in the 60s. And still all the Turks were Muslims. They practised their religion and nobody stopped them. Why all this change suddenly?
Perhaps the painter of Marmaris (general netekim) can explain this drastic change to us, which climaxed after he came to power.

MORTД°CД°A

Actually I watch the events wД±th pleasure Д±n the '' Freedom of Speech ' European countries. I personally believe that they are the ones who create discrimination in our country by manipulating people by religon .

So now lets see how they will solve the up coming problems in a DEMOCRATД°C way.

Maybe they will arrange a new regulation and a law for Muslim immigrants such as no headscarf in official buildings :D

What ever you plant , you get ready to harvest.

Leprechaun

Blunt, i couldn't open the link, so i'll tell my general vision on sbj.

Freedom is a right and everyone should have.

People miss the whole picture in my opinion. Nowadays, i'm getting a lot of forward emails trying to prove covering heads are not something of islam. And they base it on , not being in Koran.

Firstly, i cannot consider myself knowledgable about these subjects so, i will tell one thing i'm sure about, not everything has to be in the book.Or it would have taken thousands of pages to tell about everything.

Secondly, let's say it has nothing to do with Islam. So what? These people still have right to get education, no matter what religion they believe in. If it was some religion called "HГ¶dГ¶" and the believers had to wear those covers, would people say "ah ok,if it is mandatory in your religion,go ahead" ? No of course not.

I'm not really sure what are the real motives of this arguement going on for years, but i don't really care. I know one thing, telling those students they can't enter schools because what they wear is cruel in the name of democracy and freedom.

#Edit: Thanks for the summary. Well that is completely different i guess. You can't do half of a job. It's not logic. If you want to be a doctor,you need to fulfill all it's requirements. Otherwise your place is not a hospital,not a medical school. That's very simple.

genГ§ tГјrk

I think denying people basic rights because they are wearing a headscarf is just sad. Have you ever seen girls wearing artificial hair on top of their headscarves? This is just a shame on our side. Hasn't their forefathers fought and died for this land? I think they deserve the right to get university education, healthcare, everything they pay the taxes for, without giving up their right to wear their headscarves AS LONG AS THEY DON'T SEE THAT AS A PART OF A HIDDEN POLITICAL AGENDA. I think this threat is eliminated as a indirect result of 9/11.

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they r all mentally sick. uk should deport them all out where they come from . i am glad they cant wear their scarf in turkish universities. and i hope they never will.

kulla

Freedom should be for everyone..

istanbul bogazi

I think you already know what i think;-) But it will be a pleasure to repeat it specially after this article.
I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST headscarves and the ideology and the political reasons behind it.
Blunt i remember some Istanbul Capa students saying they lost their right to study at the university because of headscarves. Well let me tell you the truth why they couldn't continue studying: because the used to refuse working on male cadavres. If i had done the same thing i would have fired from school, too although i am not covered.
School is a place to learn and improve and headscarves do not have their places at school.

Mehmet K

1. Banning is not a solution. I believe that, students using headscarves will be increase only if the ban of headscarves continue.

2. Those are (medical students are refusing to attend lectures or answer exam questions on alcohol-related or sexually transmitted diseases) should have no idea about their religion.

Irmak

Banning of headscarves is good and hope it won't end up.

It's not my concern at all. Everyone can do whatever they want. If someone wants to wear them then again I'm not gonna tell them they can't. Because In my opinion freedom requires this. In fact I don't see headscarves as a threat for secularism.

usourselvesandourcats

Well, here in the US, some pharmacies, regardless of the efforts of Planned Parenthood, are still letting the faith of a pharmacist to decide if birth control or morning after pills should be available to the consumers. Meaning, depending on your belief system, you can fill or refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, here in America.
So; if you are a customer in a tiny town of Nowhereville, and there is only one drugstore, and that day the shift is covered by a conservative Christian, who decides, it is her right to refuse to fill your prescription of morning after pills, using the freedom of religion as a cause, that particular pharmacists is playing with the faith of your life; and directly impacting your ability to decide for YOUR OWN SELF!

I do not want this to happen in Turkey! So I hope headscarf issue, is not leading to a secularism of this sort... I am rather a strong believer of the French laicism.

yav

its tottaly different subject

ithinkiatetoomuch

Doesn't that seem like a contradiction???
A student is religious so she wears a scarf and reads the Koran, so we assume she believes in God, so I assume that she believes God created everything... including the patient sick with cirrhosis and the bacteria that causes the sexually transmitted disease... so she forgets this and denies them treatment? If they can't treat men or certain diseases then their decision to be a doctor is flawed, they should become midwives or something else. I am so surprised by this.

As far as what this means for universities and headscarves... I don't think these girls were Turkish and I can't imagine a Turk cooking up a weird idea like this... so it seems irrelevant. I had classrooms FULL of Turkish female medical students who were all covered and this NEVER came up. But what do you guys say?

Edit I just read IstanbulBO's answer: WOW I am shocked! They refused to cut male cadavers??!!! What is this... this is craziness! They should be thrown out. Still, I say, the scarf is not guilty, the brain under it is.

MY ANSWER IS GETTING LONG :(

I think they are manipulative students who are using their religion as an excuse as to why they 'can't'
do something they don't want to do.

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