What do you think is war(or how do you want to call that) with PKK will be only war against PKK?

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Dr. Beemer

Dear Armen.

Turkey and PKK fight is not a war, its a cat and mouse game. Turkey's army was in Iraq and they fought PKK but could not finish them, about ten years ago if I am not mistaken.

They say PKK is attacking from Iraq into Turkey. I dont buy this because how can PKK cross the border? Why Turkey does not have guards at the border?

Either Turkey has a weak army or there is something else going on that the public does not know.

Oh BTW I thought Turkey was going to attack them in Iraq with full scale military action what happened? Bush didnt give approval?

MORTÄ°CÄ°A

War is done between two armies.
PKK is not a proper organized army , just a terrorist group.

edit : Ok you changed the word war. Now the Turks have no problem with the Kurds who live within the Turkish territory or outside of Turkey. The main problem is PKK and that they are terrorists who feel free to pass the borders of my country and kill my army soldiers plus civillians ( who are also kurdish in origin ) inside my country territories. And the whole world is at ease and telling Turkey to take it slow and blabla bla.

What happened on September 11 ? Wasnt that a terrorist attack done to the civilians ? Didnt USA swore to take revenge and started hunting for Osama in the middle east and ended up in Iraq ? Is Osama in Iraq ?

Yes we will protect our country by all means. Wouldnt you do the same ?

Ipek K

Your question is not very clear.

Do you mean you are not sure the fight- war- will not be only against PKK terrorists but going to include all the Kurdish origin Turkish citizens?

Please clarify so we can give you the requested answer accordingly.

EDIT : If the last edit is for me, please note that I am not analyzing your question, I am trying to understand what you mean..

OK..

If there is going to be an across the border operation it will be gone to PKK camps and the purpose will be to demolish the camps who provide logistic support to PKK terrorists only. The camps and the terrorists are known by ours, Iraqi and American governments and military.

The Kurdish people of Iraq are citizens of Iraq and since Iraq is under the invasion of USA, any attempt against an other country is called a declaration of war.

The operations- if necessary- are going to be done within the legal international agreements which are approved by Iraqi and American Governments. They are definitely NOT against innocent civilians but against PKK terrorists- Kurdish, Turkish, German. etc- who has Turkish blood on their hands.

Slick Rick

There are Turkish Kurds who sympathize towards the PKK but until they pick up a gun and point it towards Turkish targets then they are fine. The majority of the PKK are Kurds but the fight is against the PKK not Kurds. out of the 20million Kurds living in that area less than 10,000 are members of the PKK. that's proof enough to me that the PKK is not represented and wholeheartedly welcome by the Kurds.
The Kurds in general do seem to want there own national identity despite the PKK changing their fight from land to recognition ,but you cant expect Iran , Syria Turkey and Iraq to simply offer them land that's been fought over and paid with blood over the centuries . . also this land is populated by other cultures and nationalities who also won't want to live under Kurdish rule etc.

Is the land the Kurds want in Turkey also part of the land wanted by the Armenians , that would be interesting to see, what would happen then?

Mehmet K

As a retired military personnel, I should say that WAR IS TERRIBLE than you can imagine... Nobody should wish...

But if circumstances dictates (such as defending homeland) it is unavoidable...

I firmly believe it will be against only PKK terrorists as stated officially, we have no problem with our citizens kurdish origin for thousands of year...

hanibal

1) It's not war. It's an operation.

2) For 4000 terrorist , 2000 Turkish soldier will be enough.

3) We made 5 big operations . It's not the first time.

4) In these operations we killed more than 5.000 terrorist. But lost 150 soldiers.

5) These terrorists are also killing civilians , Kurds , teachers ...

6) More than 3.000 kurd killed by pkk and also baby-es.

Do you think Kurdish people like pkk?

Do you know how many European countries are feeding the pkk with money and TV programs for propaganda and sending the old army members to teach them how to fight?

Do you know these terrorists have Us infantry attack gun (M16) and other heavy guns.

Do you know they are using mines and explosives like C4 . These are not produced by terrorists.

Do you know we saved 500.000 kurds life to Saddam's chemical weapons.

We are not fighting only 4.000 terrorist.

Qu'est ce que tu pense?

War is an armed conflict between armies, nations, or parties. I don't like war and therefore I don't like talking about it. I think it's a silly and immature way of resolving a problem. If Turkey wants to get involved in America's dirty problems, then fine by me. I just don't want to see my two countries get hurt from a stupid decision or bad move. I think that if you are trying to fight terrorists, the chances of defeating them are slim. Nobody can ever defeat terrorism, because poverty and ill-education generates these types of people and makes it much harder to control. That's atleast what I think.

scratchpole

Sadam knew how to deal with the Kurds the same as the USA are dealing with the Iraqis. Iraq lost a leader who had control there was no more trouble from the Kurds after he wacked them for attacking Iraqis. They were left alone in the North until they started to get greedy and tried to claim land and independance as they are doing now. Now the Turks will have to do the dirty work. The Kurds will probably end up being given a homeland like the jews were given Palestine.

YouCannotKnowUnlessUAsk

I agree with the first person. It's turkey's 9/11, on a smaller scale, and they need to fight the terrorists. I just hope they don't make the the same mistake America made by going after a person like Saddam who had nothing to to with 9/11. They should stick with going against the PKK, and maybe any other groups that join in to help. hopefully Iran won't get involved.

Ms.Lady

Turkiye has a right to protect his country and its citizens!

its not war it is a operation againt the terrorist organization which is feeding by USA and EU countries!

so as you see our real enemies not that pkk toys!

we dont ahve any problems with Turkiye Kurds...we are brothers nations...and our Kurdish citizens are not that uninformed as they were before...now they all supports Turkish Goverment!

LONG LIVE TURKIYE!

The Babe is Armed!

Go ahead and call it war. Bush calls it the "war on terror" and that's good enough for US politi-speak, wherever that war takes us.

Even if the war is not directed at all Kurds, you can believe that some innocent people will be wrapped up in the fighting, and that some guilty ones will escape.

You might think that Turkey would learn from the US' mistake. The US painted a bullseye on its butt by invading Iraq. The violence has slowly escalated as the insurgents come in more organized and our slow attempts to remove ourselves become less organized with every shift in the power structure back in the states.

What will Turkey really accomplish by entering Northern Iraq? If the Land Force focuses its power on that area, I imagine that places like Istanbul and Ankara will feel the impact as well.

That's the trouble with terrorists. They're like ants in your front yard. You can poison that little bed of ants as deep as you like. Somehow, they will survive and a new bed will pop up in a different part of the yard. You will have to kill your entire yard to destroy them and then what will your yard look like?

Besides that, if your neighbor doesn't do the same, you will still end up with ants after all that effort.

genÃ§ tÃ¼rk

I can't understand why armenians are so protective of kurds... Maybe because armenian gangs slaughtered them? And I advise you to read about hamidian soldiers. Educate yourself.

Alana Awareness

War against any evil?
you know what I mean.

Ã¶zgÃ¼r TÃ¼rkiye

Cemil you are just a fr.... troll

Trotsky vs Kerensky- ÐÐµÐºIÐ¾!

What makes you think that we would care about the kurds in Northern Iraq so as to wage a war on them? I mean if we had such intentions, we would start by Kurds in Turkey why go to Northern Iraq?

Think before asking, at least write a response to all the possible answers you might receive in the question in order to avoid people telling you to shut up or to clarify your question. You certainly seem to be in the habit of asking absurd questions. In fact, I cannot remember the last time an Armenian like you asked a decent, comprehensible question.

ÕŽÔ±Õ€Ô·

No one can assure that the military action is only against PKK.
Before the invasion started, Kurdish villagers left their homes near the border, it also had its economical effects for example rise in oil price. Aren't these all harms?
Besides, unwanted things also happen. For example Turkish forces injured 3 Iranian workers near Iran-Iraq-Turkey border (www.tabnak.ir reported that, its a governmental website, but not for Ahmadinejad) by mistake when were chasing Kurdish rebels.
Besides they condemn Masoud Barzani and claim that helps PKK, while PKK and Democratic Party of Kurdistan are really opposite each other.
This event has affected both Turkish and Kurdish sides, raising nationalism in them both, and thats no good.
While, if few Kurds supported PKK, now many of them do, because they consider Turkey a "common enemy", I DON'T approve it, I just say things the way they are.

Tanju

Hi Armen,

PKK is hiding at the mountain, and then you know, some big countries (EU and USA) supporting them, and then we are going to speak with Mr Bush's Leg for permission ...

Journalist is finding their cave and speak with them, but Mr. Barzani says they do not know, where they are ...

When someone injured (I mean PKK Terrorist), they are going to hospital for treatment, and we are saying this is terrorist, capture them, US says, 'No, they are injured, they can not ...'
And then, they are going to back door ...

Where is the Trust ?
I am not sure, US is our Ally or not ...
How about EU Countries ? I am not sure they are our Ally or Not...

Did you read thus far ?
What did you understand ?
Nothing or Something ?

#Edit
Armen, I know you, You can speak and know English ...
I just wanted to conspicuous what I said...

truth

The point is and many miss it as they wish too.
PKK is a group under Turkey which labels with the USA as terrorist and this way they can kill them all and not have an opposing view. The same way they did to the Armenians.
And yes many innocents will die as in all wars which this is not or in any action to suppress people.
War is between two people , two countries or ideals. In some ways this could be called a war as both sides are armed unlike the Armenians and the PKK learned from the Turks not to give them up.

Misviv

No, I don't think it's a war against kurdish people. As the contributors here were eager to say, kurds constitutes one third of their parliament.

I agree with Lady GOP. The PKK members are freedom fighters and not hating terrorists who kill civilians. The turks know that. But they seem to prefer retaining their tribal personality to demolish all apparent enemies rather than to reason things out. Some people just don't want to question themselves, that's why they ask you to "go away".

Abby lane

There is a gigantic difference between the PKK and al Qaida.

The United States are fighting extreme Muslim Terrorists groups which are considered the most dangerous to the entire world.

These terrorists groups do not want to negotiate. They do not have a list of demands they kill just to kill but Turkey has an opportunity to meet some of the Kurdish demands and perhaps put an end to the fighting without adding more violence to this issue.

EDIT: The Kurds are not asking for land they asking for independence which is a right they are entitled.

Bosco

Kurdistan must be restored,including all territories currently claimed by other countries. The PKK is not a terrorist group because superstates say so; they are fighting for their national survival and to regain and restablish their countries. Since most of Ottoman Turkey,which it what it is basically, - a leftover from the ottoman era - belongs to Armenia,and the rest belongs to the Kurds,let the Turks be named for what they are - a terrorist state. I would prefer to see Kurdistan re-established with it's original borders,and Greater Armenia also. Turks may relocate,go back where they came from - Bulgaria,Albania,whatever. They can take their israeli friends with them.

Baris Awareness

What more will turkey ask of the US?
Turks have no say in this thats a given.
Turkey wants Bush to give them
permission to attack in Iraq, then
they want the US troops
to capture the PKK commanders
and turn them over and now to
top it all off now they think
we are going to fight them too.
Look around folks these ungratefuls
don't even like the US, tanju over there
not sure if US is really an ally
well then stop bothering us
We have already paid
big money to use our base
or what your gonna hold that over
are heads again? I don't think
Bush will fall for that threat twice.

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