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Alana Awareness

Nice job sweetie!

You are greatly mistaken. We have this country absolutely under our control. I have no desire to shift the blame onto our underlings and I am entirely willing to accept the responsibility myself for everything that has taken place.
Enver Pasha

I am ashamed of my Nation.
Cemal Pasha

I refer to those awful massacres. They are the greatest stain that has ever disgraced our nation and race. They were entirely the work of Talat and Enver.
Prince Abdul Mecid

They decided to exterminate the Armenians, and they did exterminate them.
Mustafa Arif

one million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it.
Orhan Pamuk

These left-overs from the former Young Turk Party, who should have been made to account for the millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en masse, from their homes and massacred, have been restive under the Republican rule.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

EDIT: tanju WHERES THE LINK, what makes you think anyone will believe you did not write that yourself.
talltalesfortoothlessturks.com

Later

O.CETIN BAYRAMOGLU

i agree with Mr.BRUCE FEIN!

Leprechaun

No he says it's not a genocide what happened.

http://www.aksam.com.tr/haber.asp?a=90838,4

anlarm

I did not read anything like what you quoted. Ufuk Uras denied your allegations. It seems that you are beginning to forget your first language, Turkish. Go and read what he said in Aksam newspaper.
And ask yahoo for an Armenian section. Leave us alone.

Tanju

Dear Vahe,

So what ?
This is Turkiye, Everyone can be believe, if they want ...
Somepeople likes to believe lie, someone does not believe the lie ..

I am writing, what happened on 24 April 1915, again,

APRIL 24, 1915
The Ottoman government, against numerous rebellions that began after 1890 and promptly following Armenian massacres which resulted in the murder of tens of thousands of Turks, contented with informing most important persons of Armenian congregation and Armenian deputies that "Government will take the necessary precautions if Armenians continue to stab in the back and assassinate the Turks". However, it became a necessity to secure behind the borders because the army was in war at various fronts, the events did not stop but increased and assaults towards defenseless Turkish women and children increased.

With this aim, on April 24, 1915 the Armenian Committees were closed and 2345 of their directors were arrested due to the crime of carrying out activities against the government. April 24, which is commemorated annually as the "Anniversary of Armenian Massacre" by the Armenians abroad is this date when the 2345 revolutionary committee members were arrested and it has no relation with deportation.

However, the Armenian revolutionary committee members who propagandize even the unfounded events by exaggeration, promptly made a move to propagandize these mentioned arrests. As a matter of fact, Ecmiyazin Catholicos Kevork sent the telegraph below to the President of USA:

"Dear President, according to the last news we got from Turkish Armenia, the massacre began there and an organized terror endangered the presence of the Armenian people. At this critical moment, I am addressing to the noble feelings of your Excellency and great American Nation and in the name of humanity and Christianity belief requesting you to promptly interfere by means of your great Republic's diplomatic representatives and protect my people in Turkey who are left to violence of the Turkish fanaticism.

Kevork, Archbishop and Catholicos of all Armenians."

Pursuant to the telegraph of Archbishop Kevork, Russia's Washington Ambassador got in contact with USA and thus, April 24, which is the day when Armenian committee members dealing with illegal works were arrested was propagandized to world's public opinion as "the day on which Turks massacred Armenians".

REFERENCE:
Gürün, Kamuran, Ermeni Dosyasi, TTK Basimevi, Ankara, 1983, s.210-211

Please read it carefully,

Have a nice day

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To Alana,
Dear Alana,
I copied the link ...
http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/24041915/index.html

Thank you for reading.
Take Care

hanibal

Where are these Armenians graves ?

istanbul bogazi

Now that you people ask many questions and expect some answers i have another question for you:

Why Armenian gouvernment doesn't want to go to supreme court with Turkey (although Turkey offered it. We offered to open all the cases) with historians?

Does this ( not accepting our offer) mean that Armenia is hiding something?
Because we made you an offer and your gouvernment didn't even move a finger so tell me what is going on here?

TURKEY FOREVER

When the Armenians will admit the Truth ?

You Armenians killed BABIES, elderly persons, hundred of thousands of turkish civilians...

How dare you say that you were victims ?

♥ ☼ ♫ Ibrahim ♫ ☼ ♥

Unfortunately, so many people in Armenian Diaspora are full of hatred, and they seem to think with the heart instead of thinking with the brain...
So then the Armenians are angels, and the Turks are demons ? Do you really think so ?
It is so so easy and so so unfair manipulating the numbers,the dates,the names,the pictures, after almost one century...
On the pictures, we cannot even see any proof of the citizenship of the killed persons...
Do you just know how many Turks have been killed ?...

Vahe, you seem to be a clever ,educated and kind person ( on the contrary of other Armenians here who are very rude and aggressive), but unfortunately your emotions are putting you into wrong judgement...
Please open your eyes, neighbour...

Trotsky vs Kerensky- НекIо!

He denies what the site wrote. I believe him because you Armenians even montaged Ataturk's photograph with puppies and turned the little doggies into dead bodies (?!?!)

It has been long since you've lost your credibility before our eyes. Why did you ask this question anyway? Do you want me to pretend to be shocked and bow before you telling you that I am obediently accepting what your false propaganda preaches? If so, I congratulate you for your incredible optimism.

Mehmet K

Lets listen about armenian lies:

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ebK5viI0GAk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24rHkImRQhw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb18DQuskKo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqCZm9SpKLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL-9cL9qRRQ

If you want to read armenian lies in English, deutsch or Francais you canuse this link.

http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/intro/index.html

If you need more let me know... :)

Totally Blunt

Now let's talk about the MP's in Armenian parliament, who can talk about opposite views to the official view of Armenia. Or in France?

Guess that makes our country freer than both Armenia and France, wouldn't you say?

NAMIK KEMAL

flat lines must be cut perpendicular to the main axis
however surface should be cleaned on beforehand

metric system values could be converted to inches

Templar

well done thanks for bringing it up its odd for a fellow Armo to trawl up evidence not pointing to Genocide. did you look in the dictionary to see the difference between massacre and genocide.

and massacre stands for both Turkish and Armenian sides

Hey Alana . I can vouch for Tanju , No offence to Tanju but the english grammar and spelling is better than his and mine so I am 100% sure that it was copied and not written by himself.

not fair

First-hand account by a Turkish army officer on the deportation of Armenians from Trebizond and Erzerum, December 26, 1916
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CIRCULATED TO THE KING AND WAR CABINET
[December 26, 1916]
ARMENIAN MASSACRES.
Report by an Eye-Witness, Lieutenant Sayied Ahmed Moukhtar Baas.

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In April 1915 I was quartered at Erzeroum. An order came from Constantinople that Armenians inhabiting the frontier towns and village be deported to the interior. It was said then that this was only a precautional measure. I saw at that time large convoys of Armenians go through Erzeroum. They were mostly old men, women and children. Some of the able-bodied men had been recruited in the Turkish Army and many had fled to Russia. The massacres had not begun yet. In May 1915 I was transferred to Trebizond. In July an order came to deport to the interior all the Armenians in the Vilayet of Trebizond. Being a member of the Court Martial I knew that deportations meant massacres.

The Armenian Bishop of Trebizond was ordered to proceed under escort to Erzeroum to answer for charges trumped up against him. But instead of Erzeroum he was taken to Baipurt and from there to Gumush-Khana. The Governor of the latter place was then Colonel Abdul-Kadar Aintabli of the General Staff. He is famous for his atrocities against the Armenians. He had the Bishop murdered at night. The Bishop of Erzeroum was also murdered at Gumush-Khana.

Besides the deportation order referred to above an Imperial "Iradeh" was issued ordering that all deserters when caught, should be shot without trial. The secret order read "Armenians" in lieu of "deserters". The Sultan's "Iradeh" was accompanied by a "fatwa" from Sheikh-ul-Islam stating that the Armenians had shed Moslem blood and their killing was lawful. Then the deportations started. The children were kept back at first. The Government opened up a school for the grown up children and the American Consul of Trebizond instituted an asylum for the infants. When the first batches of Armenians arrived at Gumush-Khana all able-bodied men were sorted out with the excuse that they were going to be given work. The women and children were sent ahead under escort with the assurance by the Turkish authorities that their final destination was Mosul and that no harm will befall them. The men kept behind, were taken out of town in batches of 15 and 20, lined up on the edge of ditches prepared beforehand, shot and thrown into the ditches. Hundreds of men were shot every day in a similar manner. The women and children were attacked on their way by the ("Shotas") the armed bands organised by the Turkish Government who attacked them and seized a certain number. After plundering and committing the most dastardly outrages on the women and children they massacred them in cold blood. These attacks were a daily occurrence until every woman and child had been got rid of. The military escorts had strict orders not to interfere with the "Shotas".

The children that the Government had taken in charge were also deported and massacred.

The infants in the care of the American Consul of Trebizond were taken away with the pretext that they were going to be sent to Sivas where an asylum had been prepared for them. They were taken out to sea in little boats. At some distance out they were stabbed to death, put in sacks and thrown into the sea. A few days later some of their little bodies were washed up on the shore at Trebizond.

In July 1915 I was ordered to accompany a convoy of deported Armenians. It was the last batch from Trebizond. There were in the convoy 120 men, 700 children and about 400 women. From Trebizond I took them to Gumish-Khana. Here the 120 men were taken away, and, as I was informed later, they were all killed. At Gumish-Khana I was ordered to take the women and children to Erzinjian. On the way I saw thousands of bodies of Armenians unburied. Several bands of "Shotas" met us on the way and wanted me to hand over to them women and children. But I persistently refused. I did leave on the way about 300 children with Moslem families who were willing to take care of them and educate them. The "Mutessarrif" of Erzinjian ordered me to proceed with the convoy to Kamack. At the latter place the authorities refused to take charge of the women and children. I fell ill and wanted to go back, but I was told that as long as the Armenians in my charge were alive I would be sent from one place to the other. However I managed to include my batch with the deported Armenians that had come from Erzeroum. In charge of the latter was a colleague of mine Mohamed Effendi from the Gendarmerie. He told me afterwards that after leaving Kamach they came to a valley where the Euphrates ran. A band of Shotas sprang out and stopped the convoy. They ordered the escort to keep away and then shot every one of the Armenians and threw them in the river.

At Trebizond the Moslems were warned that if they sheltered Armenians they would be liable to the death penalty.

Government officials at Trebizond picked up some of the prettiest Armenian women of the best families. After committing the worst outrages on them they had them killed.

Cases of rape of women and girls even publicly are very numerous. They were systematically murdered after the outrage.

The Armenians deported from Erzeroum started with their cattle and whatever possessions they could carry. When they reached Erzinjian they became suspicious seeing that all the Armenians had already been deported. The Vali of Erzeroum allayed their fears and assured them most solemnly that no harm would befall them. He told them that the first convoy should leave for Kamach, the others remaining at Erzeroum until they received word from their friends informing of their safe arrival to destination. And so it happened. Word came that the first batch had arrived safely at Kamach, which was true enough. But the men were kept at Kamach and shot, and the women were massacred by the Shotas after leaving that town.

The Turkish officials in charge of the deportation and extermination of the Armenians were: At Erzeroum, Bihas Eddin Shaker Bey; At Trebizond; Naiil Bey, Tewfik Bey Monastirly, Colonel of Gendarmerie, The Commissioner of Police; At Kamach; The member of Parliament for Erzinjian. The Shotas headquarters were also at Kamach. Their chief was the Kurd Murzabey who boasted that he alone had killed 70,000 Armenians. Afterwards he was thought to be dangerous by the Turks and thrown into prison charged with having hit a gendarme. He was eventually executed in secret.

Aniii

amazing....

and to answer that girl's question about why armenia refused to meet with turkey and historians is as follows...

Us organizing a meeting with Turkey is pointless because the Turkish government is well aware of the truth of the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE which their ancestors were guilty of. If we meet up with the turkish government, that would show that we are DOUBTING it ever even happened. On top of all that, Turkey has burned most of the legal documents from it's libraries which had to do with the genocide and the records of the people they killed. This way...they will "open" their files from the years of the genocide...and just like magic...there wont be much in there! It just doesn't work the way you think it does ....there's more to it as you can see.

''turki bilmiram'' lol

Irmak

He doesn't acept genocide but...it would be more true, if he said 'massacre from both sides'

ithinkiatetoomuch

I can't find any supporting articles in English or Turkish. Do you have a link?

Can it change anything? all the world should make their accusations and confessions in a formal independent court and then close the book. Like The Truth And Reconciliation Commission of South Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission_(South_Africa)
It wasn't perfect but it was far better than any other example set forward by (Chile and Argentina have done similar things) anyone else. America is still denying racism and the effects of slavery, and I didn't forget the native Americans, Vietnam ....
The Germans stored their Nazi gold in Switzerland and the Swiss are more than happy to hide it for them still... The Dutch and the Congo; the kings personal game reserve including 'natives.' You finish the list... you are all better educated about these things than me.
I have no idea what happened between Armenia and the Turks.... but throwing accusations and denials around is obviously not working.

Gais

Finally a turk is telling the Truth.

I have 7 hands down for telling the truth? But I don't like lying.

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