What is the meaning of "since 1453, Istanbul" ?

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PANCHO

First I want to clarify something. Someone said that Istanbul comes from a Greek word, it is not entirely true. It actually comes from two Turkish words combined together. ISTAN meaning place and BUL meaning to find. ISTANBUL meaning the place found. In Turkish ISTAN is very commonly used to name countries.
YUNANISTAN (Yunan = Greek) ISTAN = PLACE)
HINDISTAN (Hindi = Indian)
PAKISTAN (Paki =Pakistani)
Bulgaristan, Kazakistan, Kirgyzistan and so on.
You probably saw the saying "Since 1453" at the soccer game over the weekend. The Greeks (and I am half Greek :)) has never beaten Turkey in soccer so the Turks had this to say about that. Meaning not only that we took Constantinopole in 1453 but since then we have never lost at anything :) If you can tkae it like hearted like me, it is funny. But it can go an and turn into fights as well.

Salud.
PS - Istanbul is also partially a Greek word, I think it is deriven from both. Not just Turkish or Greece. We cant know what the thinking processs was when naming it.

DejaVu

Us Turks got the beautiful city of istanbul on that date :o)
29 may 1453

babysparty

Ä°stanbul was conquererd in 1453 by us ;)

MORTÄ°CÄ°A

IT MEANS THAT THE ERA OF THE EASTERN ROMAN EMPIRE ENDED , CONSTANTÄ°NOPLE CHANGED TO ISTANBUL .

AND THE BEGINING OF THE NEW AGE.

It means the city has been called Istanbul since 1453. Before that, it was known as Constantinople.

meco031719

I believe 1453 refers to the year Istanbul, known as Constantinople fell to the hands of the Ottoman Turks. Prior to that, it was known as the Byzantine Empire or the Eastern Roman Empire. However it was only renamed to Istanbul in 1930.

Just to let you know, in Greek, Istanbul is known still known as Konstantinoupoli which still resembles Constantinople.

freedquaker

Well, Its true that Istanbul fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453, and officially renamed "Istanbul" from Constantinopole" but, I stress the word "officially", as "Istanbul" derived from "Stanboli" which means "City" in Greek and was used by many people, including the Greeks and Turks. Fatih the conquerer had to change the city's name to a more "neutral" one that was already in widespread use (so Istanbul is not of Turkish origin but Greek); because "Constantinopole" means "The City of Constantine" who had no longer survived and it symbolyzed the Greek sovereignity, which no longer existed in the City.

dBalcer

It means before 1453, Constantinople.

It's when the name changed (AD/CE)

anlarm

This was written on a banner last year at a soccer game in Istanbul between Turkey and Greece. It was half joke, half retaliation for what some Greek spectators did/said in a previous game in Athens. They waved Byzantine flags, some with a map of Cyprus in the middle. Also, Greeks still use the old Byzantine name of the city: Constantinopolis. 'Since 1453, Istanbul' was in response to that, again at that soccer game.
There is no point in creating a new conflict between these two beautiful nations. The past is past. Let us do not fall into the traps of extreme nationalists and look for a common future, living and working in harmony. Turks and Greeks are neighbors. Nobody can change this geographical fact. They also share many cultural aspects. They have lived together for a thousand years. Germans and French became very good friends, why not Turks and Greeks!

Gokbayrak

it is just a day recorded in history .. end of Byzantines
indeed it was just an event or first step for "Grand Turco" to reach his higher goals ..

Cossak

SO.....Before was christian Byzantic Empire with capitol in Kanstantinopl'...after 1453 its islamic Osmanian Empire with Istanbul capitol....wich was built at Konstantinopl' city land.....

Qu'est ce que tu pense?

Istanbul has had its name since 1453.

Deni

maybe that before it was known as constantinopol ...

http://www.allaboutturkey.com/conquest.htm

it also marks the fall of the east roman empire and the end of the middle ages

trmktr

before 1453, there were byzantines-eastern roman empire- , but in 1453, the emperor Fatih Sultan Mehmed , conquered Constantinopole. it is too important for the ottoman history, because;
1- Constantinopole was a rough city to conquer, because of the walls around the city, and the chains in the estuary -nearby the city-. (there were chains in the estuary, because they were blocking the ships which were trying to get in.)
2-The city emperored in a long time period, and that was rough too..
3- ottomans conquered the city because,around the city had already been conquered.
4- and of course, the world trading road was passing from here, so it was about the economics, too.

after the city conquered, the name changed as istanbul, and it's still same.

1000 Man Embassy

The Eastern Roman Empire fell around that time I think, and was based in Istanbul.

Leonarda

I will just say that for us the greeks, it is a black date....I will not say anything more...For more information, I give the word to the history...

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