What is the relation of Turks and Kurds nowdays?

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Irmak

The government **seems** that it gives importance to them (TRT 6, Tayyip's speeches in east etc.) so these influenced the public also (in a positive way - because there are lots of followers of the government party). But I believe all of these are just for elections, unfortunately.
Anyway nothing has changed a lot. There are people who think we are brothers and sisters, there are people who don't like them and see them as terrorists. These days after DTP meetings I think there became a lil negative ideas..But I hope they will pass..

To arpsy: First, you should calm down. I have never said anything bad. I support TRT 6 or growing of DiyarbakÄ±r. And I know the facts in the east. Yeah there is a that kind of group. But although DiyarbakÄ±r is growing, there are still problems there (a friend of mine saw there a family who lives in a rubbish dump). First: they feel like they are externalized. I know this issue from my father. He recently told me 'You can marry everyone even with a Chinese or African except a Kurd.' Can you believe in this sentence? I couldn't. And my father graduated from one of the most important and liberalistic university of Turkey, BoÄŸaziÃ§i. And another example; recently again, I was talking a person. Kurdish lyrics of a song was written on my MSN. He asked about it like 'If you aren't Kurd, why did you write it?' Then he started to insult Kurds. When I said that I disagree with him, he deleted me from his MSN. Do you want another? A Kurdish friend of mine couldn't marry with the girl who is Turkish because her father didn't let because of my friend's race. Second: Yeah maybe DiyarbakÄ±r is growing but everyone doesn't live in the city. The people especially in the towns aren't in a good condition. There aren't schools, there aren't hospitals, there aren't any jobs..And third: PKK issue started about 30 years ago (correct me if I mistaked) 30 years ago there were more problems and nobody cared about Kurds. So PKK appeared. Don't get me wrong, I don't support PKK, I hate them - I don't like DTP also..Anyway after they appeared, government tried to shut them up with violence. Nobody listened to Kurds' problems again. Of course there are past issues like Tunceli massacre in 1938 also..
I'm not that much hopeless like you. If we care about them more and leave our past hatred - it's for them also, everthing can be ok. We should do this if we don't want more people to be killed.
PS 2 to arpsy: I'll tell you only 4 things. First I'm Irmak, not Ä°mrak. Second, it doesn't show the real situation if you don't have any people who don't like Kurds in your environment. You live in a developed area where people can go to university, so that's normal that your friends can study fairly. Anyway third, if the teachers had gone to the east before PKK or if the government had thought about the east before, there wouldn't have been PKK. I wish Village Institutes (http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6y_ensit%C3%BCleri ) were still existed. Forth, I know those aÄŸas. Its solution is Land Reform (http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toprak_reformu ). But religious and narrow-brained governments didn't do that, still don't (it was also them who abolished Village Institues) The reason? Because it was smelling communism!
Now please tell me: How can't I blame the government?

TutSki YanCheg

my relationship with kurds are generally horizontal
my kurdish g/f likes it this way though it's kind boring
we must try new positions sometimes

Pushdaree

To understand the current Kurdish -Turkish relationship you need to go back to the time of the establishment of the nation state of turkey. Unfortunately Kurds supported Ataturk in his war against allies and once Ataturk stopped the allies forces and struck peace agreement with them, he backstabbed the Kurds and started force assimilation of the Kurds who have been living on the land before the immigration of Turks from central Asia. The policy of kamalist turkey faced resistance from the Kurdish population and many Kurds were killed by the Turks. Poison bombs used in suppression of the Kurdish resistance, yes, Saddam was not first to poison Kurds, Turks were the first. After eighty years of forced assimilation, and Kurdish refusal to be Turks, The Turkish government has embarked on a new policy which gives Kurds limited cultural rights. What The Turks are missing is that Kurds want to be free of the subjugation , want to have self determination , rule their land free of the Turks. So history of subjugation cannot be erase by superficial actions by government . So mark my words, Kurds abhor Turkish policies and the Kamalist system.

KRC

Turkey is notorious for its restriction of Kurdish rights, particularly in the Southeastern portion of the country. They are not allowed to use their own language in schools or the media, and their culture is forbidden from being promoted. Many traditions of the Kurdish people have been restricted due to Turkey's strong enforcement of secularism.

DanyBoy

they are better than before as AKP (even do i hate them) have unifide the Anatolian people more and has weakened DTP (sepratest Kurdish Party) and after nort. Iraq Raids the PKK is broken they are weaker than ever so they can't do much

Keyser

The government treats them like sh*t,the Turkish people depending on who you talk to ,see them as brothers or a menace.

Most Kurdish youth living outside Turkey generally dislike Turks as iv witnessed.

KÃ¼rÅŸad

good.we are brother.

xanthochroi

i still can't look on the bright side like arpsy you can call me racist but i've never liked them much there're also many kurdish refugees who do not engage socially in Europe making their propaganda instead of discussing their real problems

Haifa

arspy is a liar, kurds & turks love each other 2 death!
they are like honey and butter.

arpsy

To Imrak: dont think or do not give your opinion with out go and see the reallity, goverment has done as much as they can to give the same right to Kurdish in East, and in West too, the problem is that some of the kurdish politicians are doing as much as they can to stop the help and block any relationship between Turkish and Kurdish so that they can keep their PKK party alive..Whenever you have chance go and see how DiyarbakÄ±r is growing as a modern city and they have everithing they have, and also i invite you to go hakkari and see that some teachers are being treatened if they give some clases in elementary schools when pkk activist say no! they may be killed..This is not related to kurdish citizen but a few gruoup who wants to create problems so that turks and kurds will never be in peace and develop toguether.
Again to Ä°mrak:
Well you can talk about your experiences but look i am living in one area with kurdish, and i have been in touch with several of them, in fact my husband sister is married to a Kurdish, and i have never saw any kind of racism towards him or his family, i have met sevaral turkish families kurdish turkish and they are living happy, my mathematic teacher is kurdish and my best friend is kurdish they both are studing PhD in this city and i have never heard from them that they were not given the same rights (both were receiving scholarship because they got high scores in their ALES exam) one of them is working as a teacher...kurdish in this city are being treated as same as normal turkish.. they have even green card to go whatever hospital they want to go be particular or goverment, be poor or rich kurdish..but of course i see that there are cities less developed than other but it does not have anything to do with kurdish or turkish region, it is because most of the people living in turkish are deniying the east..alot of people including turkish prefer to live in west and get low salary than go to and settle down in East, and due to geopolitical location of east is also difficult to develop economically..so goverment has made alot of effort to send doctors to Hakkary (they get around 8 000 liras salary a month) but few people want to go and work there..why because they now that they may be killed by pkk terrorist, plus as i told before Kurdish comunity still have aÄŸas who are trying to keep their power under the politic of fear towards their own people, they are the one supporting pkk terrorist so that their own people do not receive the help they really need...so you should ask those who may think that are nationalist or like CHP liders who never go and give and speech in South east about this question, is easy to blame goverment but why dont you ask that people they are the racist ones, the ones who do not want Turkey to be developed...

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