What is your exact opinion about the Armenian genocide?

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Dr. Beemer

1890's Sultan Hamid massacred 300,000 Armenians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres

Armenian Dashnaks started forming groups to protect Armenians.

1912 Turkey lost the war to Balkans, they lost the 80% of the European lands. They came to a conclusion that they no longer can live with Christians. Armenian Genocide was planned and carried by the 3 pashas; Enver, Jemal and Talat pasha. When WW1 started they found it the right time and opportunity to wipe out Armenians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_Talat_Pasha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%B0smail_Enver
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Djemal

April 24, 1915 was the day the Ottoman government arrested and executed the Armenian politicians, intellectuals, lawyers, and leaders. Then all Armenian men were sent to "war" and told to dig a hole, not knowing that they were digging their own grave, they were all killed. The government insisted every Armenian family to give a gun to the government for the "war" even if they didnt have it they had to buy one from somebody and give it to the government. Then the rape, torture, beheadings, killing and "relocation" started. Women children and elderly were taken to the Syrian deserts, starved to death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide

During the same period of time 300,000 Greeks were also massacred, and 150,000 Assyrians. Armenian ancestral homelands were taken.

Turks claim that it was "war" and the people died during "relocation" and as much Turks were also killed. Not taking account that Ottoman Empire was at war in multiple fronts, they were killed in war with Russians and Balkans.

Today writers and intellectuals are prosecuted in Turkey for mentioning Armenian Genocide, the government of Turkey is in "Absolut Denial" about the fact of Armenian Genocide. Many western historians and scholars have labeled the Armenian loss of 1915 as a genocide. Modern Turkey is aware of the consequences thats why they are vehemently denying. But they are not taking in account that they are building an invisible wall that isolates them from the world community. Turkey is giving opportunity to the Greeks, Assyrians and Kurds to use the fact of Armenian Genocide that Turkey is denying and prove to the world that they too were the victims of Turkish Governments oppression. Note that Armenia and Turkey never had any war until 1918 when Armenia became independent. But Greece and Turkey had many wars and Greece lost consistently. Kurds sided with their Muslim brothers and killed Armenians, Kurds were promised the lands of Armenians, but today Kurds have formed a terrorist organization PKK and they are at war with their beloved Muslim brothers.

It shall be also remembered and mentioned that this whole conflict was the work of the government not the Turkish population. Armenians and Turks were living together for 600 years there was many intermarriages, a lot of families were ruined, relatives became enemies.

Also, many Armenians that survived the genocide were protected by Turkish and Kurdish families. These Turks knew that the government would execute them if found out that they were hiding Armenians in their house. These heroic people risked their lifes and saved many Armenians from death. I am very thankful to the people of Turkish origin who listen and understand what happened. They know, they know......

Mary

It is a fact, only turky denies it.

Myotis

Yes, when the word genocide was created, the Aghat was used as an example.

Only complete retards and Turkish nationalists believe otherwise, and all official documents on the subject show the events clearly, and that the actions on the late Ottoman Government under Tallat Pasha were a calculated attempt to destroy the ethnic Armenian population under his rule.

I would say this has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

mertev

Unfortunately some bad things happened during that time but it was war time.Turkish side never denies what happened and opens the war archives which says somewhere between 200-300 thousand Armenians were died during the relocation.Armenian side refuses to open the archives and says 1,5 million Armenians were killed systematicly but never mention about what happened to the Armenian population in Istanbul or the other major cities of the empire.They don't want to answer how 1,5 million can be killed while whole Armenian population in the empire was 1 million.They don't want the world to know that who started the conflict or what would be the punishment of betrayel during the time period.On the other hand Ottoman empire was not alone in the 1st WW,nothing could be found in the German archives,or British or French not even in the Russian.
All we can say now is it was a sad occasion,unfortunately happened but it can not called genocide it was only one of the massacres of the 1st WW

Zarzoorner

of course happened, there is so many documented evidences, Turkey's American ambassador's Morgenthau's letters, and books, German's solder's diary and photographs, Americans missionaries hand written books that had to be smuggled out of Turkey in hidden old furniture to avoid getting arrested, New york times archives, Le Monde french new paper, Turks of turkey had never heard or learned about the genocide before, Turkeys denial of the European union, now this days the new generations started to learn more and more, of course to accept it is very hard, how is there loving country did some very bad things to the Armenian, there so proud of Turk's it is not acceptable a such crime, and can be committed such crime in there loving land, since they have only learn that Turks are the best citizens of the world, they never saw the dark side of country's history, that country lied to them all the time, now is the time to learn the truth and to face the facts, yes that was a horrible to kill 1.500 000 women children and men, yes that is a 100% genocide in a hand of today's Turk's ancestors, over 26.000 documents exist all over the world, why do you think Turkey is spending millions of dollars to cover up, to shut the American congress, if wasn't any documented genocide, if there is no truth, now this days they are working with Israeli's to do the same, if some one is not guilty will not try to cover it up, every time there is a historian or a journalist want to talk or write some things on the genocide issue get killed or jailed, please guys open your eyes do not take part of passed crime, denial too is a crime. read this
http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/comment/morgenthau/Morgen25.htmOf

topink

My opinion is that your question belings in the politics section. Can't you guys keep the travel section light and fun?
I'm so sick of reading all this back and forth endless arguments between Turks, greeks, and Armenians in the travel section. Lighten up!

Arthur

OMGGGG WHAT IS WRONG HERE!!! LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF DENIAL!

Where are the traces of the greatest civilizations the world has ever seen? Where are the traces of the Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian civilizations that have flourished in modern-day Turkey, for millenias.

First of all "Professor" Justin McCarthy is not even viewed by his peers as a qualified scholar, much less a professor. He was awarded his doctorate BY TURKEY (hint, hint) He is paid by the Turkish government to falsify claims, forge documents, and speak against the Armenian Genocide.

Ottomans have lived with Armenians for 800 years. Someone said why would Turks wait 800 years to kill the Armenians. WTF!! Throughout history the Turks would annihilate and obliterate whole cities of Armenians and Greeks and other Christian minorities (Assyrians). WWI was a time of rising nationalism, thus the Ottoman Empire of which the Turkish people are so proud of, was ripped apart and every nation became indpendent except the Arabs and Armenians. WWI also gave the perfect excuse, and pre-text for the Armenian Genocide, rising nationalism. While the young men of Europe were dying by the millions, no one would care of what is going on in Turkey, and that would make it easier to exterminate the Armenians.

Turkey has a a violent "history" (if thats what you want to call it), they are a nationalistic government, with limited freedoms, that claim to be a nation of tolerance and a secular nation, yet 99.8% of the population of Muslim (hint, hint) get it now??? Christians exterminated all opressed throughout the land. Hrant Dink, Orham Pamuk, article 301 "Insulting Turkishness" That is why so many of their people are so stauncch against recognizing the Armenian Genocide in Turkish universities and schools they purposedly teach their kids to hate the Armenians and that they are liars.

This is pointless to even argue about whether the Armenian Genocide happened or did not happen, it is like saying did Soviet Union ever exist, or was America ever in a war with Vietnam. The only government IN THE WORLD that denies the Armenian Genocide is Turkey and their puppet nation Azerbaijan. Other countries do not recognize it for fear of Turkish retaliation, but do admit it happened and that it cannot be argued against. Even Turkish intellectuals and scholars recognize the Armenian Genocide.

Now some people say, Armenian Genocide didn't happen becuase Turkey opened its archives to Armenia, and Armenia didn't come. It is like saying Jewish Holocaust did not happen because Jewish leaders & people didn't go to Ahmadinejad's International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust. Thats exactly what this is revisionism. Armenian Genocide is an established, incontrovertible historical fact, and here is your oh-so dear "Professor that recieved his doctorate from Turkey" Justin McCarthy. All of your questions would be answered in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1iy285TuKc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Llbdjd2ai4&feature=related

Now I don't know how Turkish people are going to deny this one, but I am sure they will find a way to protect their lying hero (Jusitn McCarthy), just like they did with their homosexual hero Kemal Ataturk "considered father of all Turks." The Turkish are a VERY FUNNY PEOPLE!

Oekaki

Almost the entire Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire was either kicked out of Anatolia or simply killed. Just by that simple fact, it seems appropriate to call the events a "genocide" or an "ethnic cleansing". On the other hand, it is not appropriate to compare it with the Holocaust because there WAS an armed Armenian independence movement that was constantly harrassing Turkish civilians and soldiers and collaborating with the invading Russian armies in Eastern Anatolia, and the Ottoman Empire had to react. Also, the Armenian genocide (or whatever you call it) wasn't the only one happening around that time. Almost the entire Muslim/Turkish population of the Caucasus and the Balkans was kicked out or killed as well (by the Russians and the newly independent Balkan states). Many of the survivors settled in Turkey. So, if we are talking about an Armenian Genocide, we should also be talking about a Muslim Genocide, to be fair. Or maybe we should listen to the Finnish scholar Antero Leitzinger: "Rather than of separate, selectively researched genocides, we should speak of a general genocidal tendency that affected many – both Muslim and Christian – people on a wide scene between 1856 and 1956."

not fair

hopefully all of us do have commonsense:

this denial has been sustained by deliberate propagandas, lying and cover ups, forging documents of archives, andbribing scholars.

Exactly HOW are ARMENIANS making this UP?
other countries know what happened, Hell, even England did!
In the province of Armenia, Abdul Hamid and the Young Turks had deliberately set themselves to the simplification of the Armenian difficulty by exterminating and deporting the whole race, whom they regarded as infidels and traitors. to their own Turkish citizens, wow
David Lloyd George Prime Minister of Great Britain said it. (1916-22)
In 1915 the Turkish Government began and ruthlessly carried out the infamous general massacre and deportation of Armenians in Asia Minor. "There is no reasonable doubt that t his crime was planned and executed for political reasons".----- Winston S. Churchill
Prime Minister of Great Britain (1940-55)
And who are the Turks to say WHO CANT PLAY THE PITY GAME?
Where Turks go off and massacre Kurds and smile about it.
Why would Armenians, Greeks, and Kurds lie?You mean you trying to say all of us are liers. 3 nations are lying, wow some big nerve you and your kind have.
One more reason that Turks do not admit to their violent, crimes, is they will be liable as far as LANDS, WEALTH who they took by force from us.And they have to pay it back.
As Hitler said who can remember an Armenian.
well I have news for all of YOU TURKS, as long as
one Armenian Supervisors, only one then be liven in what ever you believe in he/she will never ever let any of you Turks to forget it.

How is it false? Germany knew about it as did England. Thats fine, we can forget what Talat Pasha said in 1918. I mean hell, cameras don't lie either
ever heard of Armin T Wagner? And why are Turks being pansies about it now? Huh? WHERE WAS THE MIGHTY OTTOMAN EMPIRE IN 1915?
Oh wait, getting their butts kicked by the minority of weakling Armenians?

The Saviour

Yes,it did happen...

Masis

Armenian Genocide started on the time of sultan hamid and young Turks finished it, despite all the denial it happened.
It is very serious issue and not a story to tell.
use this site and learn about it all.

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html

ՎԱՀԷ

There is only ONE history even if Turkey is trying to twist the history with the excuse of "freedom of speech", but that's fake.

You know, when it comes to the Armenian and international attitude of Armenian Genocide, freedom of speech has nothing to do in Turkey: It's a crime to say it has happened in Turkey.
But for Turkey in order to deny it, Turkey claims that has the right to do it, because of "freedom of speech".

It's funny, history is not politics and the fact should remain protected and untouched.

Armenian Genocide has happened, just take a look at east of Anatolia today to find it out "why": Today, there isn't even one Armenian village in Anatolia, could a simple "massacre" - as Turks talk about it as if it is an unimportant accident - exterminate all the Armenian population from their homeland?

Turks, think a bit...

Марияна от България

Of course, it's happened!!! Ask in Wikipedia!

♥Barış Awareness♥

Why would you ask the country
who holds one world record
" the people living in denial
the longest" ,
Can I just assume you
enjoy seeing people
embarrass them self....
Living in denial is never
an attractive sight you
know.
Some countries, including
Argentina, Switzerland
and Uruguay have adopted
laws that punish genocide denial.
France passed a law that makes
Armenian Genocide denial a crime.

ErAs

In the Great First World War, the Ottoman Empire was the unique country that was a defeated one of which people gained their freedom after this big war and then several battles not by submitting themselves like the rest of the Central Powers. For the Entente Powers, it would be a lost not exploitting and not breaking into the pieces the lands of Turks. Therefore, the Ententes used other nations living on the land where the sovereign is the Ottoman Empire by provocking them. In the Caucasians, the battle was between Turks and Russians. As i wrote above, Russians were applying their effective rules and tactics. In Russian lands, Russians were forcing Armenians to an immigration to the south and at the same time, they incited Armenians against Turks in the East Anatolia where they peacefully lived with Turkish brothers for hundreds of years without any pressure just like how the minority lived in the Balkans . The time was passing hardly for all people in East Anatolia, some gangs which were found by Armenians, were laying ambushes on roads, breaking telegraph lines, despoiling and firing houses. Many members of this gangs were joinning Russian Army in the very East. Therefore, the government decided the solution of "relocation". According to this solution, Armenians in the East Anatolia, would move other parts of Anatolia; some to south, some to eastern and so on... Then, Armanian gangs has increased and has been much more aggressive. They fired villages; they killed Turkish people, they killed Armenian people in the process of the relocation. Next, Turkish villagers have organized gangs and attacked Armenians as well. It was a mutual war, and it was not so easy to stop it for an empire which has so many battles in so many fronts. Even, in Istanbul, the government had no power to save itself, fearing from anti-government demonstrators which were growing in the situation of revolution, so how could they do anything? They had no money and had difficulties in finding new soldiers for Gallipoli battle in which hundreds of thousands Turkish soldiers dead. So how can someone be silly about supposing the goverment being responsible for Armenian-Turkish war and naming it as a "genocide". so we; Turks can name it as a genocide of Turks as well very fairly.

Please, my friend. be objective and just think; why countries accept this claim by their courts but not with historic researches! why is there no information in wikipedia, or freedom of speech in some countries for saying "Armenian genocide is a lie" (Switzerland etc). This is nothing but a cheap gameplay against Turks by Armenian lobbies to break the embargo of Turkiye on Armenia by these pressures.

Totally Blunt

Mertev said it well. Armenians are the ones living in denial.

The strangest part is, expat Turks say the Armenians that actually migrated from Turkey aren't so bitter. Their children and grandchildren, who never saw a Turk and who were raised with hatred are.

History is a science. The Armenian stories belong to the literature/fantasy section.

There was an armenian genocide?

K, read the wikipedia article on it... I don't think people make this kind of stuff up... but I'm obviously not the expert!

TEAL'C

You just forgot to add the mention " so-called" or " alleged" genocide...

In fact , the real word should be " genoLIE"

acineto

It is known to be an arrangement of USA president, as a gift for their little child Armenia: 3 steps:

1) To make Turkey accept the genocide
2) To get indemnity
3) To get lands in Eastern Turkey (almost all)

Armenians make a big exaggeration as comparing it with Jewish Genocide...

The truth is:

Rusia and Ottoman Empire was in a war and Armenians were members of Ottomans. But when Russia attacked Ottomans, they were supported by Armenians... And a conclusion, after the war they were replaced another lands. During the replacement some of Armenians were died / not killed. (old people, illnesses)
This is a result of treachery..

Ladybug Queen of Lazistan

yes I believe a genocide happened..but the opposite of what the armenians say...they killed thousands of Turks including my relatives...my grandfather told me that the armenians attacked their village and many others and he had to flee with some of his cousins...they were all about 13-14 and lost most of their family members at these attacks...
this is a sad true story..

Tanju

Dear Rose,

It never happened ...

I am not saying Professor Justin McCarthy, University of Louisville is also saying ...

I am sending his words, please read it,
if you have a question about this subject, please ask again,

We are answering all Questions about interest with Turkiye ...

Any kind Question, Welcome ....

Yes, Now, We are listening what Prof. Justin Mc Carty Says ...

Anatolia 1915: Turks died, too

by Professor Justin McCarthy, University of Louisville

During World War I, Anatolia, the Asiatic section of modern Turkey, was the scene of horrible acts of inhumanity between Armenians and Turks. For many decades, the history of the conflict between the Turks and the Armenians has primarily been written from the viewpoint of the Armenians. It is a viewpoint that emphasizes the deaths of Armenians but completely ignores the deaths of Turks.

The Armenian position has been effectively publicized. Every year in Congress, a group of representatives attempts to pass a bill that says the Turks were guilty of genocide. Newspapers feature articles on events in Turkey in 1915 as if they were today's news. Over the weekend, the Public Broadcasting System carried the historical visions of Armenian producers all across the country.

Unfortunately, effective publicity does not ensure accurate history. What has been presented as truth is, in fact, only one side of a complicated history that began more than 100 years before World War I.

Lands occupied one by one

In the late 1700s, Russia embarked on the conquest of all the peoples around it. Those who stood in the way of expansion to the south were Turks and other Moslems. One by one, their lands were occupied by the Russians. In the Crimea and in the Caucasus region, the Moslems were forced to emigrate. Those who resisted, especially in the Caucasus, were slaughtered. The czar wished to have a loyal population in the new lands. Therefore, Russians and other Slavs were imported into lands newly emptied of their Moslem inhabitants.

Justin McCarthy dines with Turkish-American
students from the University of Pennsylvania
after presenting a talk

It was not possible to populate all of the conquered lands with Slavs. The Russian population was hard pressed even in filling the more northerly lands. A different policy had to be adopted south of the Caucasus Mountains. The Russians took the southern Caucasus region from two Moslem powers Persia and the Ottoman Empire. They had reason to fear that the Turks in the provinces that bordered the Ottoman Empire would rebel against their rule. To meet the threat, they adopted native Christians as their proxies. The Armenians, who were scattered throughout the Caucasus and in Anatolia and Persia, were to be used much as the Slavs had been used farther north, as a Christian group that would replace expelled Moslem Turks.

The Russians could promise many benefits to the Armenians. Those who sided with the Russians could hope for better economic conditions as part of a European empire. Like other Middle Eastern peoples, the primary identification of the Armenians was religious. They were convinced of the superiority and ultimate triumph of their Christian faith, and the opportunity to side with a great Christian power was seductive. Perhaps later there would be a chance for independence.

Armenian cooperation with the Russians began when Armenian armed units assisted the invading armies of Peter the Great and acted as spies against their Moslem rulers. Armenians were subsequently to become Russian soldiers and even generals who lead the Russian conquests.

The best example of the effects of Russian Armenian cooperation was seen in the province of Erivan (today the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic). Before the Russian invasion of Erivan, the majority of the population was Moslem. As the Russians defeated the Turks and Persians in 1827 29, 30 percent of the Moslems of Erivan either died or emigrated. They were replaced with greater numbers of Armenians from Anatolia and Persia. Many more Armenians came to Erivan in the years to come, creating what today is Armenia.

Exchange continued for a century

The exchange of Armenian and Turkish populations continued for a century. With each war between the Russians and the Ottomans, more Moslems died, more fled. and more Armenians came. By 1922, more than 1 1/2 million Moslems had emigrated from the conquered lands.

In the late 19th century, Armenian revolutionary movements sprang up in the Ottoman Empire. They sought to create an independent Armenia in eastern Anatolia, in lands that were three quarters Moslem in population. The Russians gave their support whenever they felt they could use the revolutionaries.

After unsuccessful bloody uprisings in 1895 and 1909, the revolutionaries' chance came in 1914, when Russia went to war with the Ottoman Empire. Armenian rebellions broke out all over the empire, and Russian arms and even Russian uniforms appeared from hidden caches. Tens of thousands of Armenians formed themselves into guerrilla bands. The largest city of southeastern Anatolia, Van, was captured by the Armenian rebels in April 1915, and many Moslems in the city and surrounding villages were killed. The city was held until it could be turned over to the invading Russian army. Throughout eastern Anatolia, Armenian bands attacked villagers wherever they found them. In turn, Turks and especially Kurdish tribesmen attacked Armenian villages. It was the beginning of a bloody war.

For five years, Armenian peasants and the Russian army battled Turkish peasants and the Ottoman army. Most of the peasants undoubtedly wanted no part of the fighting but were forced by circumstances to take sides. Starvation and epidemic disease killed many times more people than bullets or knives did.

Because of the rebellion, the Ottoman government decided that it could not trust the Armenians. Orders went out to deport all Armenians from dangerous areas. The Ottomans, who were fighting a Russian invasion and vainly trying to defend Moslem villages from Armenian guerrillas, spared few soldiers to defend the columns of Armenian refugees moving to Syria. Many of the columns were attacked. and many Armenians were robbed and killed by Kurdish tribes or corrupt officials. However, to put the suffering of Armenian refugees into perspective, twice as many Moslems as Armenians were forced from their homes because of attacks by Russian soldiers and Armenian guerrillas.

When the Russian Revolution destroyed the czar's power in Anatolia, a new Armenian Republic attempted to hold the territory that the Russians had conquered. They were defeated by the Turks, and as the Armenians retreated, they killed the Turks who fell into their hands. Cities such as Erzincan were left in ruins, with Turkish bodies filling the streets. Armenians who failed to escape with their retreating army were killed as well.

In Erivan and other parts of the Caucasus under the control of the Armenian Republic, Turkish villages were destroyed. and the inhabitants were forced to flee or die. Two thirds of the Moslems who had lived in the province of Erivan in 1914 were gone at war's end. A similar fate met Armenians in Turkish Azerbaijan.

In the end, almost 600,000 of the Anatolian Armenians had died. Almost 3 million Anatolian Moslems had died, more than one third of them in eastern Anatolia. Mortality in the Caucasus was similarly proportioned.

Why one-sided?

Why have we in the West formed such a one sided view of the Armenian question? It is a matter of sources and prejudice.
The events of World War I in Turkey were seen in the West only through the eyes of American missionaries and Armenian propagandists. American Protestant missionaries had worked extensively with Armenians and had been instrumental in creating Armenian nationalism. The missionaries reported the murders of Armenians by Turks. They did not report the murders of Turks by Armenians that were occurring at the same time. Their reports were collected by the US ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, Henry Morgenthau, who disseminated them. Morgenthau believed that the Turks were an inferior race and openly printed his view that Turks had "inferior blood." It is no wonder that his observations were colored by his prejudices. Yet it is his reports and the reports of others like him that have formed our histories.

If it seems odd that Americans of that time were so deeply prejudiced, we should reflect on the general attitude of our ancestors toward non Europeans and non-Christians. Asiatics and Africans were routinely described as inherently inferior to Europeans and Americans. Respect for and knowledge of non Christian religions and peoples was virtually nonexistent. Only in recent years have scholars begun to examine other evidence. There are Ottoman military records that tell of massacres of Turks and Kurds by Armenians, eyewitness accounts by Russian military men of Armenian atrocities against Turks, evidence of Americans who saw the destruction of the Ottoman East by Armenians. Most important, there is demographic evidence that tells us, for example, that 60 percent of the Moslems of the province of Van, where the Armenians began their rebellion, died in war. Such evidence belies claims of a one sided massacre. It does very accurately describe an awful war, one in which both sides were heroes and both sides were villains.

Those who bring forth such evidence are often vilified as unobjective and pro Turkish. But is it less than objective to state that both Turks and Armenians were killers and that both were victims? Can such be called a pro Turkish view? Unfortunately, we have not yet reached a time when the Armenian-Turkish conflict is studied as we would study any other historical event.

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/mccarthy-russian-1915.htm

Trotsky vs Kerensky- НекIо!

I consider the so called Armenian genocide an insult to the victims of the holocaust. The word "genocide" refers to systematic extermination of people. There has been countless massacres in history. The word "genocide" cannot afford to be used loosely, it is disgusting to use it like the way Armenians do to achieve their lucrative ends. Show me one concentration camps that Turks used to kill Armenians. Show me the records of death figures instead of made up a telegrams supposedly sent by Turkish officials. I am sorry for listening to my common sense and refusing to believe that the Ottomans would put all that money, laboring and effort into the transportation Armenians to distant places like the Middle East but still somehow wanting to kill them all. Genocide requires consistency, look at the cinema during the Nazi Germany, almost every movie seemingly for the purpose of entertainment contained anti-semitic elements. Of course there was no cinema at the time of the Ottomans, but what I am trying to say is 'genocide' requires things like propaganda, a powerful centralized government, secrecy and most importantly a raison d'etre. What reason is there for the so called extermination of Armenians? Supporting the Russians? Surely that is true, but is it a convincing reason for a "genocide"? No sane person would believe that. Further more, Ottomans at that time were in no position to carry out a planned systematic extermination even if they wanted to. The empire was coming to an end and the last thing busy young Turks would spent time on would be the extermination of handful of Armenians in the East.

Just scanning the answers of Armenians, I have come across plain display of ignorance or rather feign of ignorance. My number one legend is "Turks put people into prison when they say there was a genocide" Completely absurd and very WRONG. Legend number 2: "Armenians have no financial interests they are just trying to make their ancestors rest in peace" I suppose that is why one of the first demands of Armenia is "MONEY" from Turkey. Armenian diaspora pours millions of dollars to the pockets of the politicians because they are good hearted people who are after justice for an event which happened, according to them, a hundred years before?

I rather go on and read Alice in Wonderland, at least it is more entertaining.

Çetin

hi,
this isn't genocide , this is only massacre between two peoples.

please read these books that the writers are the Armenian historian and politician .
(e-book and free)

*http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2006/05/679-dashnagtzoutiun-has-nothing-to-do.html
*http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2007/11/2187-book-excerpts-pastermadjians-why.html

*http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2005/08/about-contact-us-links.html#ebook

gugu

There was NO genocide.

When WW1 began, The Turks and Armenians were living in the Ottoman Empire for 800 YEARS.
First of all, If the Turks really wanted to get rid of the Armenians, why did not they do it before? Why did they wait for 800 years? Moreover, if there was a genocide why nothing happened to Armenians living in İstanbul or İzmir?

Armenians revolted against the Ottoman Empire during the WW1 and they served as spies to the Russians which is called backstabbing. (in every sense of the word)

And if you want to learn what happened nextt, just read this article written by Prof. Justin McCarthy, an American.
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/presentation-by-prof_-justin-mccarthy-at-the-tgna-on-_the-reality-of-armenian-issue_-conference-on-march-24_-2005_.en.mfa

For further information:

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/sub.en.mfa?c4aa6758-dde9-477c-98c6-335c94c2fe18

Here is what Shimon Peres said about the so-called Armenian Genocide:
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/israeli-foreign-mi...

Here is the official position of the British Government on the issue:
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/official--position...

In 2005, Turkey has officially proposed to the government of Armenia to establish a joint commission of history which will include Turkish and Armenian historians and other experts to study together the events of 1915. In order to do this, Turkey opened all of their archives to public. Armenia has not responded to this proposal and has not opened their archives yet.
I wonder why?

keops_mario

There was not genocide.

go on say never again never again in the hell....

Qu'est ce que tu pense?

Nope, there was NEVER an Armenian genocide.

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