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When did costantinapolis' name change as İstanbul ? |
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Many people have already answered about the name. The name was changed into Istanbul after about 1933 (?).
I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE 'KING OF NOTHING' THAT IT IS AN INSULT IN GREECE TO CALL THE CITY 'ISTANBUL'!
It is not insulting, it is just odd, it is like calling 'Londino' with it's english name as 'London', when I'm speaking in Greek or 'Edimvurgo' as 'Edinbourgh', understand?
It is also like calling 'Athina' (Athens in Greek) as 'Athinai', the old name, ancient and in formal greek speech of 19 and even 20th century!
About toponymes, i don't find it tragical to be changed.
Reasons
1. The 'wave' of purification in every country in the 19th century, this includes, Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, Italy etc.
2. The fact that old names were more difficult to be pronounced by the local populations.
And Blunt, I don't find anything wrong with the name of a Roman Emperor, still used by Greeks, as this man is one of the leading Saints in our Church.
And we have said many times that Greeks understand themselves as a continuation of the Byzantine Empire, all of the present day's Greece was part of the Byzantine Empire after all. It is the most logical to think this way about our history.
(Please don't tell me that Byzantine Empire was spleated in 1204, because then I ll have to ask you if Seljuks were Turks also- they weren't Ottoman's right?- and also if the Sultan of the Ikonium was Turkish, Ottoman, Seljuk or what...this is judging with the same messures. All of the above groups, Turkish or Byzantine-Byzantine Empire, Empire of Nikaia etc, were participating exactly in the same culture, had the same values, languages etc). |
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As TB said, teh name did not change after 1453. The Sultans kept Constantinople as the official name. The name changed by Kemal Ataturk, in the 20th century.
As for TB's question, I don't care if a name is Greek or Turkish or Latin or Slavic. I disagree with the change of many Slavic toponymes into Greek ones, in Greece, and I also disagree with the change of the name of Constantinople even to a purely Greek one. This city was glorious by that name, within the Byzantine and the Ottoman Empire. The Slavic toponymes showed some part of the Greek history. It is wrong to alter history, no matter what interests this alteration serves. Istanbul is a misunderstood sound of an expression. I believe this city deserves more than that. |
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When the filth of the east (also known as the turks) tried to erase everything hellenic from the city. They had been de hellenizing Anatolia with every way they could: genocides, murders, deportations, destruction of temples, changing churches into mosques and even changing history and the names of places. |
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The name change took place in the 1490's when the turks overthrew the remains of the Bizantine Empire. |
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1453 CONSTANTINOPLE
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My friend Keyser,
In Greek language is Konstantinopole just like in your language you still call Thessaloniki as Selanik and just like you call Greece as Yunanistan.
What's the problem of calling it this way.When its about to talk with foreigners we will call it with its international name just like our country.We don't say Ellada which is the right one, but we say Greece.
You can't judge us for calling the city in Greek language.Especially when , officialy the name changed in the early 1900s |
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after 1453 that Greeks lost the war against the Turks.
plus, Istambul = is tin poli --> in the town.
but you HAVE TO know that Greeks still call it "Constantinoupoli".
if you go to Greece or if you talk to Greeks, always call it "Constantinoupoli". It's an insult if you call it Instambul, in Greece. |
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To the Greeks it's still Constantinople. |
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Fatih, the name Konstantinopolis was given by the founder of the city, the Eastern Roman Emperor Konstantin. Ottoman sultans respected the name, using the name Konstantiniyye, Konstantin's city. Even Fatih Sultan Mehmet declared him the new Roman Emperor, the Kayzer.
The city has had many names during the Ottoman Empire and it was seen as the ultimate city, as it was the most developed of the time. When you said "the city", people understood it as Konstantiniyye. Local Rums were saying, for example, they were going to the city, stin poli, and other ethnicities took the expression and it evolved into Istanbul. This name is the remnant of our multi-ethnic background.
This subject and many more controversial ones were covered in Greece and Turkey sections. You can make a search before asking questions.
Edit: I don't know why any Greek would choose the name of the Roman emperor over a Greek expression. Doesn't it strike you as odd? |
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